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Suggestion New set of standards for the OtLand community.

J.Dre

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Hi, everyone. Today we're here to discuss a concern of many, including myself.

It's time we set some new standards for OtLand and the entire Open Tibia community, wouldn't you agree? In the past few years, we've seen a great community decline to historically low levels. We need to hit the reset button and change our ways before things become so unrecognizable, it's too late to change.

We can start with preventing the advertisement of donation-only Open Tibia servers that have been reset multiple times, with clear evidence of corruption, greed, manipulation, and exploitation of kids. The fact that "owners" of Open Tibia servers are allowed to continue advertising and discussing their servers on OtLand after half a dozen resets - with their last attempt being less than 3 months prior - is absolutely ridiculous. They do not care about the OtLand community. They're exploiting it for "donations." So called "donations" have completely destroyed what Open Tibia once stood for. I fear we will never see those days again. But, we can take measures to prevent it from becoming worse. What's the point of being an "Open Source" community if the only objective is to make money? The community does not need people who are copying old threads, relaunching without making any substantial effort to improve their project. These people are the embodiment of what is wrong with Open Tibia - making thousands of dollars, only to reset again in a matter of months. It's entirely unethical. How can anyone expect OtLand to survive when these acts are overlooked?

Donations themselves are not bad and are not the problem. The problem is we're allowing people to exploit the meaning of a donation, and it's happening throughout all of Open Tibia. What has happened? Where did the ambitious and passionate developers / owners go? Why must we be forced into affiliation with this? This has been something that utterly disgusts me every time I go through the discussion and advertisement section of Otland. The meaning of donation has been skewed and exploited so much, it's quite frankly shameful to even use.

We must act now and begin transitioning into a more ethical and sustainable way of advertising, developing, and hosting or ownership - a trend toward what is right by enforcing a new set of rules and disallowing the advertisement "donation focused" projects (with multiple resets) and nothing more to offer the community except shame. OtLand administration needs to step up and implement more rules or guidelines for the entire OtLand community. There are plenty of moderators to enforce new rules. What's the point of having moderators if there's nothing to enforce? It's important we understand that action is what changes things. It is our responsibility as senior members to prepare those who will one day replace us to carry on our legacy by acting as role models for future generations. To change the community will take time... In that I have no doubt. It will not be easy, nor will it be clean, but it is necessary. To change ourselves will take courage, and it is honestly our last hope if we want to save what's left of the Open Tibia community. We need to stop enabling those who are exploiting the Open Tibia community for personal gain and start enabling those who genuinely enjoy Open Tibia for what it is.

Please do not be afraid to post below and discuss what has been mentioned above. I've discussed this future with dozens of members over the years. You may notice I did not mention any project names or point out anyone in particular, but you know who and what I am talking about. There is no denying it anymore. It's time to face what we have done.

Let's set our egos aside for a moment and constructively work to change something.

Regards,
J.Dre

P.S. I would liked to have written more, but I'm going to be late for class. Please keep the trolling, spamming, and offensiveness to a minimum. This is a serious problem. Maturity is something we all can appreciate.
 
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All we need now is for @Flatlander or @Shadowsong to release their server using OTC and finally prove that players are interested in custom servers using completely custom clients. That will put the last nail in the 8.x coffin and we can finally start making truly amazing things.

There's already medivia online which is probably the most succesful custom longterm server out there and they're using otclient. Sure, it's based on a real map but it's evolved way beyond that with all of their changes and should already prove that people are interested in servers even if they're using different clients like otclient.
 
There's already medivia online which is probably the most succesful custom longterm server out there and they're using otclient. Sure, it's based on a real map but it's evolved way beyond that with all of their changes and should already prove that people are interested in servers even if they're using different clients like otclient.
Wow I guess I missed that... then again I just searched on otland and couldn't find anything about it so I guess that's why. It has been a very long time since I've went down the list and checked out every server on otlist/otservlist.

Even still, I think there is a big difference between starting out completely custom/new and starting out as real map and slowly evolving into custom. I guess the biggest difference is that when you launch something that is already full on custom it can be overwhelming to players. My hope is that people are getting bored enough of playing the standard game of tibia to take the time and learn something new.
 
I'm with @Xagul on this, a friend of mine and myself have been playing Tibia since 2001 and OTS for as long as I can remember. Everyone in a while we were get bored and start up an OT. Play for a week and quit, sometimes we'd get hooked it a bit longer but we'd always trail off. We would always come back to the cookiecutter bullshit whenever we wanted when we wanted to just back into OTS we always looked for stuff like we used to play just to fill a void we knew we weren't sticking around long and those OTS content was always hit it and quit it. We hit DeathZOT on its launch day last year and neither of us had seen anything like it, we figured it was a gimmick and we'd play out its content in a week and move on. We've been on and off that on now since it started and I still thoroughly know I god awful I am at it and how little I know but to not appreciate the effort they put into the server is a damn shame. It's the most fun I've had on an OT in ever. I now play it with that same friend and a cousin, sure we suck at it and we grind like hell but I want to see what the fuck comes after Erenath, I want to see what a T11 setpeice looks like I want to try to feature when they are put it, I get hyped when Xagul and Synthetic work on their shit because they do it for us, they could fire out 100's out lame ass cookie cutter real maps and probably max the profit they make off Deathz but that would be some shitty work. If DeathZOT has keep me this engaged as a player I'm not surprised the developers are still going strong.

Keep it up Xagul and Synthetic.
 
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