The end - for botters. BattlEye comes to Tibia

Beo · Feb 23, 2017

Deepling said:
It's like spyware
I could download virus, it will be same as BattlEye

hahahahaha

Tony32 · Feb 23, 2017

Battle-eye is actually pretty good. Have you looked how hard it is for people to do arma hacks now? BE completely blocks reading memory from Arma. To do it, you need some really advanced bypass or your own signed driver to do the reading and writing. Even so, people have been detected and banned.
Sure it can be done, but it sure as hell is gonna be a lot harder.

Infernum · Feb 23, 2017

Tony32 said:
Battle-eye is actually pretty good. Have you looked how hard it is for people to do arma hacks now? BE completely blocks reading memory from Arma. To do it, you need some really advanced bypass or your own signed driver to do the reading and writing. Even so, people have been detected and banned.
Sure it can be done, but it sure as hell is gonna be a lot harder.

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Damc · Feb 24, 2017

With some modification it should be quite easy to modify the Linux kernel to allow ptrace the Tibia process (assuming BattlEye looks for signs of ptrace if not then no modification needed

). Not sure how to work around this in Windows

.

Fenrisus · Feb 27, 2017

Tony32 said:
Battle-eye is actually pretty good. Have you looked how hard it is for people to do arma hacks now? BE completely blocks reading memory from Arma. To do it, you need some really advanced bypass or your own signed driver to do the reading and writing. Even so, people have been detected and banned.
Sure it can be done, but it sure as hell is gonna be a lot harder.

less than hour bypass: [C] BattlEye Bypass Driver code. - Pastebin.com

Go to R@geZone \O/ DayZ section. There is component for BE. And bypasses somewhere. + Source codes leaked long time ago (+latest exists) thanks for Korean MMO's using them.

Usage of NTAPI, DLL-injections = PROFIT! GameGuard? HackShield? EAC? BE? Any "public" and popular protection vulnerable anyways.
Literally this changes.... - nothing! Exept one litte thing. Commercial bots for $$$ and other things related. Plus probably payed server software (Tibia 760-10.99 free, 11-12.*+ only for $$$. Yeah you should pay for reverse engineers and software developers. The years of free leeching - in the past.

)

Tony32 · Feb 28, 2017

Fenrisus said:
less than hour bypass: [C] BattlEye Bypass Driver code. - Pastebin.com

Go to R@geZone \O/ DayZ section. There is component for BE. And bypasses somewhere. + Source codes leaked long time ago (+latest exists) thanks for Korean MMO's using them.

Usage of NTAPI, DLL-injections = PROFIT! GameGuard? HackShield? EAC? BE? Any "public" and popular protection vulnerable anyways.
Literally this changes.... - nothing! Exept one litte thing. Commercial bots for $$$ and other things related. Plus probably payed server software (Tibia 760-10.99 free, 11-12.*+ only for $$$. Yeah you should pay for reverse engineers and software developers. The years of free leeching - in the past. )

Most of these are detected, and you need to sign the driver which costs quite a lot of $$$. Running the drivers in testing mode is detected by BE as well.

Fenrisus · Mar 1, 2017

Tony32 said:
Most of these are detected, and you need to sign the driver which costs quite a lot of $$$. Running the drivers in testing mode is detected by BE as well.

"sign the driver which costs quite a lot of $$$." - yep. That's how i am making money on some communites.

Mainly you are right. But not in my case. For example, i own leaked latest BE source code. And if i am change client part, how it will detect them?

But without this, yeah, drivers is solution. Plus some other tricks. In two words - it's possible. And with hands - no one will detect you. How correctly - i cant explain in details (you must understand), cuz that is private info and also moneymakeing tool for me and few other guys from my hack-team.

Well, let's see how it will be. Literally i am stand away from botmaking and etc. But if someone hire me for bypass this for their bots... well, it's near 700$+ (they actually will earn alot and much more with their tools), why not?

If no one... I simple dont care and too lazzy for making bots by my self.

For CipSoft, is best and logical solution - is using a self-maded protection instead of using public ones. Less vulnerable. But CipSoft & Logics... you know

Don Daniello · Mar 1, 2017

Fenrisus said:
For example, i own leaked latest BE source code.

Oh, okay.

tokenzz · Mar 1, 2017

Don Daniello said:
Oh, okay.

he obviously means that he's got the latest LEAKED be source code

difficult to read between the lines for narrow minded ppl

Xikini · Mar 1, 2017

tokenzz said:
he obviously means that he's got the latest LEAKED be source code

difficult to read between the lines for narrow minded ppl

He literally wrote that he owns something which was leaked from the actual owner.
It's impossible to own something that is not yours.
It's possible to have possession of said material, but not own.

There is no need to read between the lines, as his statement is erroneous to begin with.

tokenzz · Mar 1, 2017

Xikini said:
He literally wrote that he owns something which was leaked from the actual owner.
It's impossible to own something that is not yours.
It's possible to have possession of said material, but not own.

There is no need to read between the lines, as his statement is erroneous to begin with.

@Xikini while you're still at it taking things literally,

just imagine if ppl did

Xikini · Mar 1, 2017

tokenzz said:
@Xikini while you're still at it taking things literally,

just imagine if ppl did

tokenzz said:
difficult to read between the lines for narrow minded ppl

I think you said it perfect the first time.

tokenzz · Mar 1, 2017

Xikini said:
I think you said it perfect the first time.

same

Tony32 · Mar 2, 2017

Fenrisus said:
"sign the driver which costs quite a lot of $$$." - yep. That's how i am making money on some communites.

Mainly you are right. But not in my case. For example, i own leaked latest BE source code. And if i am change client part, how it will detect them? But without this, yeah, drivers is solution. Plus some other tricks. In two words - it's possible. And with hands - no one will detect you. How correctly - i cant explain in details (you must understand), cuz that is private info and also moneymakeing tool for me and few other guys from my hack-team.

Well, let's see how it will be. Literally i am stand away from botmaking and etc. But if someone hire me for bypass this for their bots... well, it's near 700$+ (they actually will earn alot and much more with their tools), why not?

If no one... I simple dont care and too lazzy for making bots by my self.

For CipSoft, is best and logical solution - is using a self-maded protection instead of using public ones. Less vulnerable. But CipSoft & Logics... you know

Of course it can be done, I never said it can't. It's just a lot harder.

Kuzyn · Mar 21, 2017

BattlEye is ready. ~7k online for now.

Tony32 · Mar 23, 2017

Quite a big difference in online numbers right now. Will probably grow back when people realize there are a lot less cheaters. I hope it works out for CIP even if many of their changes are shit imo.

Arashel · Mar 23, 2017

Yamaken said:
Maybe its good? It can "end" the mediocre wave of rl map servers.

Limiting amounts of server and subsequently players is never a good thing. Especially for old and dying MMO like Tibia/OTS.

Get_Rooked_469 said:
I don't see why CIP wouldn't reconsider opening old school servers...

Because They're not stupid and realize that this is the case of vocal minority which is loud about their preferences. Video game industry and technology is progressing. New waves of players don't like old/soundless games. New (so called "casual") changes to the Tibia kept it from dying in late 2000s/early 2010s.

pierroth · Mar 24, 2017

LOL BE has been bypassed already

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Don Daniello · Mar 24, 2017

pierroth said:
LOL BE has been bypassed already

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Well, they have so far claimed that it's in "permissive" state, meaning nobody gets banned yet. It doesn't mean the cheat/bypass wasn't detected.

aklopis · Mar 29, 2017

Arashel said:
Limiting amounts of server and subsequently players is never a good thing. Especially for old and dying MMO like Tibia/OTS.

Because They're not stupid and realize that this is the case of vocal minority which is loud about their preferences. Video game industry and technology is progressing. New waves of players don't like old/soundless games. New (so called "casual") changes to the Tibia kept it from dying in late 2000s/early 2010s.

According to otserverlist the minority you talk about it's actually majority...

Btw no one says that they should shut down tibia 11 servers, they just can try relaunching 7.6 for example

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