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Seriously man, you are so full of lies
You screwed up so many times during that evening/night and now you are doing everything to just clean yourself out of this situation.
Fact 1. Before you started luring you said upon asked by someone why you lure "Ill lure the shit out of this ots" (in Polish)
Fact 2. You got your knight from someone, and you completely did not give a heck about that char.
Fact 3. Once i have banned you (JUST BANNED YOU, it would end after 3 days without any other punishment) you went anger mode.
Fact 4. You showed on your stream that website with bot, ENCOURAGING everyone to use it -> "Crime number 1"
Fact 5. You said, quote "fuck this server" multiple times on stream -> "crime number 2"
Fact 6. This is the very first messaged you left me ingame -> "Crime number 3"
22:09 Randomlevel: jestes - you are
22:09 Randomlevel: smieciem - trash
22:09 Randomlevel: tle ci moge powiedziec gowniaku zajebany - thats all ill say to you you f**king shit
Fact 7. This is what you wrote to me after a while -> "Crime number 4"
09:54 Randomlevel: postawie sobie za cel zniszczenie tego otsa - ill set a goal to destroy this server
09:54 Randomlevel: wcale nie zartuje - im not kidding.

Fact 8. The fact that you got deleted was ONLY because your anger PAST banishment and action you did after banishment.

So kindly please stop spreading lies that you got deleted for luring , which is not true

Ahh, and stop with "I banned you without any warning" - your own team warned you not to do it... Yet you did not care about it.

 
you banned him for luring on RETRO 7.4 server also luring was his only content on twitch so he would keep luring after unban ending with week ban then deletion thats bullshit and yeah its so easy to get bot there on retrocores just go mines people fully afk botting there till 60lvls if u kill them bot automatically buy bp rope shovel shit weapon at npc and continue botting on rotworms and dwarves very oldschool server
 
Everyone know deletion because bot its just a thing what u can use against me right now, explain me Marcus if we agreed i can lure on server and kill peple as its part of 7.4 you let me do it as i said we had agrement u said only to not doing it all day i agreed aswell so i started fighting in war some exping as u can see it was 111 lvl then ur Admin coming me and ban for luring so for fuck sick we had agrement, please keep ur words seriously.

After banning me been frustrated so it create war what affect to show people how to get bot you dont care about bots becasue u showing it right now on fucking forum where is logic so u promote it aswell, you know i know 70% people maybe more using bots for making runes and its fact and u have to accept this otherwise ur server gonna die. All trash talking and showing bot was after my ban not before i never ever attack you i would say i prmote ur server i said many times to my viewers its really good server. You could easly warrn me for example "Shadow if u dont stop luring u gonna have deletion" but no u started doing fucking stupid things, its ur server ur rules but u dont have rules u treat all people diffrent, we are all same dosnt matter he is streamer or he is a normal player.

You should unban me let me play on server again and should be normal agreement dont do this dont do this normal male aggrement without stupid explanations.
 
they are always banning you i think when u create new character to try to talk with them ? "
Csi Retrocore
Lvl: 1, No Vocation
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Antica
Breaking rule: 2g, 3b, 4b, 4c, 5b, 5c, 6d, 6e.
same reason with urs. I had warned at first, managers who do not follow the rules , typical marcus and aides.they will never make you undelete, don't exhaust yourself , I'm sorry you wasted your time Marcus's server. Nobody understands you right now, but they will write when they are banned too. Just remember Marcus's killing own server always.
 
sshadow got banned because spamming SHIT OT twitch.tv got clip about hating ot "i buy specially new character tomorrow for luring monsters because its shit server" never unban him - toxic player - punio v2 aka shadow
ggj marcus !
DONT SHOW HOW GET BOT THIS IS CAN'T HELP TOXIC BROWN MUSHROOM
 
they are always banning you i think when u create new character to try to talk with them ? "
Csi Retrocore
Lvl: 1, No Vocation
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Antica
Breaking rule: 2g, 3b, 4b, 4c, 5b, 5c, 6d, 6e.
same reason with urs. I had warned at first, managers who do not follow the rules , typical marcus and aides.they will never make you undelete, don't exhaust yourself , I'm sorry you wasted your time Marcus's server. Nobody understands you right now, but they will write when they are banned too. Just remember Marcus's killing own server always.

I really dont want smash this server or something like this its good server not the best its few bugs not completly 7.4 but ok, i completly deserve on deletion what im trying to explain, im not deserve for ban for luring this is the point of all drama on this server, situation after ban was generated becasue we had agrement i can lure and kill people on server then he coming and banning me this is all fucking problem on this server.
 
I dont really have the time to play on the regular server but i wanted to check out the war server so here is some feedback that i think would make it better and would make me play it regurarly.
Add Energy ring and time ring. Energy ring is so important for advanced players in pvp. Make runes and potions 100x charges/infinite and allow us to make characters on that server with permanent backpack.
Having a permanent name is also way more interesting when it comes to making rivals/teams or just chatting. Resupplying when i logg in for a quick 10 minute session is annoying.
Add K/D that shows on the character when you "look" at them. Maybe even a rating system like ELO or something would be cool. I want to be able to boast about being good at PVP if i am good at it. It also makes you want to target the high skill players instead of just farming noobs that get killed constantly anyway.
Add pots. make them heavier since you need less supply when they are infinite.
The exhaust rate is a bit slow for my taste but i dont think it should be changed if it is the same on the rpg servers.
 
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Seriously man, you are so full of lies
You screwed up so many times during that evening/night and now you are doing everything to just clean yourself out of this situation.
Fact 1. Before you started luring you said upon asked by someone why you lure "Ill lure the shit out of this ots" (in Polish)

tbh after this 'fact' i kinda stopped reading. who cares if someone lures the shit out of the ot. Luring was Always part and people can defence theirself against it. If you intefer in such situation its just stupid. so all behaviour of the guy after is kinda YOUR fould. Just let the kid lure if thats what he enjoys. Other people enjoy thiefing lootbags, will you ban those aswell?
Maybe keep yourself busy with banning the massive (venezuelans) farms. Or your scared that your player numbers will drop dramaticly? this ot is known for it. Never will i play this crackcores again
 
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GMs are not allowed to ban players.

We had a system to ban or delete players via website. So no matter if you are online or offline we could ban your account.
But GMs are not allowed to do that. I was, as a CM in Mastercores, able to ban players for every reason.
GMs only had a few reasons available.
Even I wasn't officially allowed to ban players for bot or macro or even using a tasker. Because that would take the whole illusion away. It would drag out the bottom from the whole system. I did ban some rune farms, Marcus approved them, then we could show that there is 20 macro runefarm chars banned. 10 minutes later there was the same farm doing it again. Woops.

If it would be OK for all the GMs to ban all the cheaters in the game right away, the whole system would collapse. That's why it was stricted to only me and Marcus to ban ppl for botting.

I saw dozens of bot farms and single players going on with 20+ chars making runes almost daily. But it was not allowed to ban them. "The automatic system will handle them" was the answer.

The "system" didn't handle them for 2 days... then for a week... 2 weeks....

Then Marcus told me that he takes the "automatic system" on and off depending how many players there are online.

Night time when the player-count is low naturally, it's offline so the bot farms can run free. Day time when there are a lot of players it's online, so that players can see that the "system" is working. Delete and ban a few accounts at day and the bots can run free the whole next night. GG!
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Unban can be done in few different ways. Either it's a leader of a controlling guild, when you can get unbanned that the player-base wouldn't drop if the whole controlling guild would stop. So it's basically:

Banned
Why?
You used cheats and it's recorded in a video.
But if I'm banned my whole guild quits.
Unbanned.

That happened at least twice and I was, as a CM witnessing one of them.

One reason is also if you stream.

Banned, why?
Because you broke the rule XX.
I have it on Twitch and I have XXX viewers.
Ok talk to Marcus.
Unbanned.

Streamers like Bubba were always have to be in contact with Marcus. Even I as a CM couldn't even speak to Bubba with official stuff.
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PS: I worked as a right hand or Marcus for 6 years. I was his first Gamemaster, until he promoted me to CM and I picked up my own Gamemasters.
 
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GMs are not allowed to ban players.

We had a system to ban or delete players via website. So no matter if you are online or offline we could ban your account.
But GMs are not allowed to do that. I was, as a CM in Mastercores, able to ban players for every reason.
GMs only had a few reasons available.
Even I wasn't officially allowed to ban players for bot or macro or even using a tasker. Because that would take the whole illusion away. It would drag out the bottom from the whole system. I did ban some rune farms, Marcus approved them, then we could show that there is 20 macro runefarm chars banned. 10 minutes later there was the same farm doing it again. Woops.

If it would be OK for all the GMs to ban all the cheaters in the game right away, the whole system would collapse. That's why it was stricted to only me and Marcus to ban ppl for botting.

I saw dozens of bot farms and single players going on with 20+ chars making runes almost daily. But it was not allowed to ban them. "The automatic system will handle them" was the answer.

The "system" didn't handle them for 2 days... then for a week... 2 weeks....

Then Marcus told me that he takes the "automatic system" on and off depending how many players there are online.

Night time when the player-count is low naturally, it's offline so the bot farms can run free. Day time when there are a lot of players it's online, so that players can see that the "system" is working. Delete and ban a few accounts at day and the bots can run free the whole next night. GG!

Unban can be done in few different ways. Either it's a leader of a controlling guild, when you can get unbanned that the player-base wouldn't drop if the whole controlling guild would stop. So it's basically:

Banned
Why?
You used cheats and it's recorded in a video.
But if I'm banned my whole guild quits.
Unbanned.

That happened at least twice and I was, as a CM witnessing one of them.

One reason is also if you stream.

Banned, why?
Because you broke the rule XX.
I have it on Twitch and I have XXX viewers.
Ok talk to Marcus.
Unbanned.

Streamers like Bubba were always have to be in contact with Marcus. Even I as a CM couldn't even speak to Bubba with official stuff.

PS: I worked as a right hand or Marcus for 6 years. I was his first Gamemaster, until he promoted me to CM and I picked up my own Gamemasters.
Well, I cannot say if this is true or not. I do not have the information and facts needed to assess this, but let's say it was true.
That would be a perfect example to show that our community is not about fun and learning anymore. I know everyone has been hating about this for years now already and everyone kinda knows it, but this is just a perfect example.
A long time ago, people made OTs for fun, not for profit. The way you present this server shows that it's an industry, not a community.
The owner(s) of OTs, or this one in particular, will do anything for profit and good promotion and try to hide all the bad parts.

Now many of you might argue that the world is this way and people always wanna make money. Now this isn't true. This community used to be different. And there are many other communities out there that aren't that way. I for example just attended the annual congress of CCC. It is a non-profit event and not small at all with 17000 sold tickets. Right before the event, they said that by their calculations they would barely get above 0. And the afford put into it is huge, I can tell you that.

Personally, I find it kinda hard to assess this. People put alot of work into projects like this and I kinda get that they want something in return. Then I kinda find it disgusting because this community used to be different and not profit-oriented. And using strategies like @Laur1 described are streight out disgusting for sure and not "getting a little bit of something for my work". Also as already mentioned above many people do these kinds of things, or even things that take alot more time and afford, voluntarily without getting anything in return.

Make your own judgment, but from what @Laur1 said, I would be averse to playing on the OT to be honest. But that might just be me ;)
 
GMs are not allowed to ban players.

We had a system to ban or delete players via website. So no matter if you are online or offline we could ban your account.
But GMs are not allowed to do that. I was, as a CM in Mastercores, able to ban players for every reason.
GMs only had a few reasons available.
Even I wasn't officially allowed to ban players for bot or macro or even using a tasker. Because that would take the whole illusion away. It would drag out the bottom from the whole system. I did ban some rune farms, Marcus approved them, then we could show that there is 20 macro runefarm chars banned. 10 minutes later there was the same farm doing it again. Woops.

If it would be OK for all the GMs to ban all the cheaters in the game right away, the whole system would collapse. That's why it was stricted to only me and Marcus to ban ppl for botting.

I saw dozens of bot farms and single players going on with 20+ chars making runes almost daily. But it was not allowed to ban them. "The automatic system will handle them" was the answer.

The "system" didn't handle them for 2 days... then for a week... 2 weeks....

Then Marcus told me that he takes the "automatic system" on and off depending how many players there are online.

Night time when the player-count is low naturally, it's offline so the bot farms can run free. Day time when there are a lot of players it's online, so that players can see that the "system" is working. Delete and ban a few accounts at day and the bots can run free the whole next night. GG!
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Unban can be done in few different ways. Either it's a leader of a controlling guild, when you can get unbanned that the player-base wouldn't drop if the whole controlling guild would stop. So it's basically:

Banned
Why?
You used cheats and it's recorded in a video.
But if I'm banned my whole guild quits.
Unbanned.

That happened at least twice and I was, as a CM witnessing one of them.

One reason is also if you stream.

Banned, why?
Because you broke the rule XX.
I have it on Twitch and I have XXX viewers.
Ok talk to Marcus.
Unbanned.

Streamers like Bubba were always have to be in contact with Marcus. Even I as a CM couldn't even speak to Bubba with official stuff.
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PS: I worked as a right hand or Marcus for 6 years. I was his first Gamemaster, until he promoted me to CM and I picked up my own Gamemasters.
Hello Lauri, Marcus here on a borrowed account.

So you're out for the second time, trying to trashtalk me with lies, twisted stories..
Well.. I'm not gonna spend much time on you since you fucked up bad and.. well you chose how to flush the toilet.

So, to save time, I'm just going to quote what happened with you, why you lost your position.
And don't be pissed at me, for showing it off.. you're the reason the story got out the first time, and now you're making sure it ends up on otland too.. so congratulations:

For people that is not aware of these events, this is something that happened in early November last year, there Znote had to step in and help me out because Lauri as the one of only two CM got kicked out for drunk/high and racist reasons.

Here is the source with timestamps on the whole case if you want to check that out, but you need account in MasterCores to do so.
MasterCores -Forum (https://mastercores.com/forum/?thread=485).

The official dismissal of CM Lauri
I didn't want to give this up to the public, but since he's spreading bullshit about me/MasterCores now, I have no choice but to let the information about his dismissal go to the public, to neutralize his attempts making me/MasterCores look bad.
Before we start, I'd like to mention that Znote took Lauris place as Community Manager after Lauris incidents.
When Lauri was banished for unknown time, and CM Ralumbi away on vacation, I was left alone with 11 Gamemasters to guide/consult which is a bit too much for an already busy admin.
I explained the situation to Znote (which he was shocked hearing how unprofessional Lauri have been acting) and he decided trying to give it a go as Community Manager, and I knew Znote would do great because most of the consulting is logical, manners and fairness based.
Something I/everyone know is Znote strong side.
About the information I'm about to share, many of you may think why I didn't kick Lauri out on the first incident.
Well, that's because he's been faithful for 5 years before this happened.
So I confronted him, and gave him a warning for his behavior, in hope he'd shape up and get his act together.
Turns out he had no such plans and it only got worse.

ground story:
Lauri have on multiple cases entered TeamSpeak servers, and discord voice chats while being drunk/intoxicated.
A lot of players have been bothered by this, especially since his CM position.
He have been suspected of login to his CM as well while being drunk, which is against the code of conduct of staff members.
He have also been suspected to get himself into heated situations in the game and ban people for getting in his or his friends way.

case continuing to next post...
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Incident number 1
Intoxicated, banishing players and stating VERY racist stuffs from CM Character.



Lauri was banished and kicked out of service for the night as he seemed to be intoxicated.
A warning was given to him the day after about his behavior, and he was able to go back to service.
Mostly thanks to that he's spent years working for his position.

This is just a very few of the incidents that night:
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I banished his account so he'd stay out, this was the chat:
Notice how I confirm I banished him, but he forgot and asked who bansished him only few moments after.
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case continuing in next post..
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Incident number 2
Being aggressive and taking personal cases (which is against the code of conduct)


Lauri was caught red handed arguing, threating and banishing people who killed his rl friends (while on CM character).
With the community starting to be flooded by people who have seen Lauris weird actions, both unfit for an official position, but also racist many times.

He was banished on unknown time while being investigated.
However it was decided shortly after, that Lauri will not return to his position as he seems to be completely unable to realize the situation and that he should follow the conduct and obey me.
Which he failed to see by unknown reason.

Chats from the night of the second incident:
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Chats from tonight (notice there's a lot of messages from Lauri that he have sent me since the banishment)
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So, final words..
This was never intended to be a public shown thread.. but only for the rest of the staff to see what happened.
However since last year, Lauri started making up lies and trashtalk me, and lied about how he was kicked, I was forced to publish the case in MasterCores forum.

And now he's apparently, a year later... picking up and try to trashtalk me.. so the story comes to otland too.

On a side note, I might add, Lauri was horrible towards one of the gms, yelling a threatning in voice chat.
He had that GM break apart in tears, me and Caleb had to console this GM for days after that.
This was one of the proofs that something dark has happened with Lauri.. because that was not the old nice Lauri we knew..
You remember that Lauri? How fucked up mean you were to that GM?
I don't know how you can even live with that.. that GM was a close friend of you for years...
I'm not going to say who, because that's very personal, but you(Lauri) know who that is for sure..

Anyway, that's all for me.

Happy new year everyone!

Sincerely,
Marcus
 
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Well, first of all, I don't agree with you saying you had no choice other than releasing the reasons behind his dismissal. You always have a choice.
And I strongly disagree with the way you did it. Personal and private conversations are NEVER to be published.

Anyhow, this certainly shows that he got to be a bad staff member in the end. What caused this and what exactly happened is not important now though.
You obviously were in your right and made the right choice letting him go.

But even though you are talking about bans and deletions for breaking rules in this conversation, it doesn't show that his claims are wrong.
What he claims fits most profit-orientated companies and is definitely not implausible, not even shocking even if scrubby.
Which is kinda shocking that this kind of usage of OTs for profit isn't shocking anymore... Kinda ironic.
I won't ask you to prove that he is wrong. There is no reason for you to defend yourself and no need for you to prove him otherwise.
It is just a claim.
But it still is something that gives me personally something to think about as well as giving doubt. Not just about retrocores or mastercores but about this community as a whole.

@DobryOTS @Goku
 
Well, I cannot say if this is true or not. I do not have the information and facts needed to assess this, but let's say it was true.
That would be a perfect example to show that our community is not about fun and learning anymore. I know everyone has been hating about this for years now already and everyone kinda knows it, but this is just a perfect example.
A long time ago, people made OTs for fun, not for profit. The way you present this server shows that it's an industry, not a community.
The owner(s) of OTs, or this one in particular, will do anything for profit and good promotion and try to hide all the bad parts.

Now many of you might argue that the world is this way and people always wanna make money. Now this isn't true. This community used to be different. And there are many other communities out there that aren't that way. I for example just attended the annual congress of CCC. It is a non-profit event and not small at all with 17000 sold tickets. Right before the event, they said that by their calculations they would barely get above 0. And the afford put into it is huge, I can tell you that.

Personally, I find it kinda hard to assess this. People put alot of work into projects like this and I kinda get that they want something in return. Then I kinda find it disgusting because this community used to be different and not profit-oriented. And using strategies like @Laur1 described are streight out disgusting for sure and not "getting a little bit of something for my work". Also as already mentioned above many people do these kinds of things, or even things that take alot more time and afford, voluntarily without getting anything in return.

Make your own judgment, but from what @Laur1 said, I would be averse to playing on the OT to be honest. But that might just be me ;)
This community used to work for free because everybody on here were kids 10 years ago living with their parents. The OT community would be dead by now without a way of making money off of the games because developers wouldn't spend hundreds or more likely thousands of hours making servers and investing their own money for nothing in return.
 
This community used to work for free because everybody on here were kids 10 years ago living with their parents. The OT community would be dead by now without a way of making money off of the games because developers wouldn't spend hundreds or more likely thousands of hours making servers and investing their own money for nothing in return.
That's the wrong approach of seeing it. Do you even know how many people work voluntarily for huge projects? Voluntary helpers or organizers aren't just some kids or students who help out in a clinic. There is so much more to that. I myself spend on average 10-15 hours a week on voluntary work. And I wouldn't say that I do ALOT.
Where you are right though is that you cannot have a full time job and put 40 hours a week into your OT. That's just not gonna work.
But don't say it would be dead if people didn't quit their jobs and made this their job. Maybe it wouldn't be as professional. So what? Do you really need that? Wasn't it always just about the fun? Why make it an industry now? Other communities work as well without being an industry.

Even though this is a really interesting thing to talk about, we kinda went off-topic here now though :p
 
Marcus is a good developer but his decision making is a big joke.
 
I agree that this might have been abit to personal to share for all, but the fact that a person openly and proudly shares his childish racist views while being in a power position is not okay. And after reading these posts from Marcus I think it was the right choice to share this with the rest and the fact that he is still after all this time upset about his position in a game says something about his childish mentality, people like this are not fit to rule or have any real power.

Kind of makes one think that this Lauri got bullied by a black person as a child and after all these years still cant let it go so he feels the need to "wipe them of this earth". Based on his hatred towards both bullies and black people and dont forget how hard it seems for him to forget/forgive people since he is still holding grudge against Marcus after all this time...

PS, I personally dont like this server or Marcus but I do agree with him on this point.
 
Guild merry chrismas stole my loot on dwarf guards. I wasted my time to gain money and they destroyed everything. They took my friend loot too. Its so annoying
 
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