Medivia and their updates

Astrax said:

But as I said before, Ironyt should have given the option to the community of making their 7.4 sprite pack from day one, and Medivia wouldn't have lost all those players.

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Demand for an old sprite pack is one thing. It's not the same as demand for developer support for community-made custom sprite packs. The focus in this thread has very much been on the former, but that won't guarantee that the latter even exists.

Astrax said:

It's a win-win situation for him, he has nothing to do with Tibia's graphics anymore (as its just an unofficial pack) and the community can continue to play with the old graphics if they want to do so.

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That's only in the best case scenario. In worst case it's a lose-lose, because Iryont spends time developing a feature that is not demanded. People might even expect an official old sprites pack because Iryont spent time building the tools/support for it.

medivia is in such terrible state iryont was forced to add griefing rule

right now u cant even kill cavebotters/mc farms even if u use secret noob char u'll get deleted on ALL ur accounts

Adposatnr said:

medivia is in such terrible state iryont was forced to add griefing rule

right now u cant even kill cavebotters/mc farms even if u use secret noob char u'll get deleted on ALL ur accounts

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u mean u cant kill donators. if you think about it maybe he will add non-pvp option for week for 5$ xD

Well @Iryont thought he could make a new Tibia. Just look at what's happening to his servers.
The further he strays away from Tibia the less players he gets. Time to swallow his pride and make the old graphics again, doesn't matter how much he likes them

If you wish to make yourself to stand out even more then perhaps it would be better to make the screenshot during server save. That way you can make a point that the game is dead and no one is playing it (just a hint).

Anyway, that being said, no one forces you to play if you don't like the game. The sooner you realize that the better for your health seeing how agitated and angry you are which makes me quite amused

Have a look at advertisement section, pick some OTS and enjoy!

Iryont said:

If you wish to make yourself to stand out even more then perhaps it would be better to make the screenshot during server save. That way you can make a point that the game is dead and no one is playing it (just a hint).

Anyway, that being said, no one forces you to play if you don't like the game. The sooner you realize that the better for your health seeing how agitated and angry you are which makes me quite amused

Have a look at advertisement section, pick some OTS and enjoy!

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Well imagine if he did take it at SS instead. Now he don't even need to lol. You are ruining your own game and I can think of another company that did the exactly same while ignoring their players.

There is no such a thing like "ruining game" while few people on forum complaining that.
For this to be the case, Medivia should lose 80% of the players to said that "Iryont is ruining game". Which has not been happening in a long time / probably never.

As Im following Medivia and playing from time-to-time im not seeing any "auto-destruction" made by Iryont.
Updates are extremely good for most of Medivian Community stable players (because Saphron is good at doing graphics things and without him this game would be completely different, that's good they have him in team).

As I started again from zero (new character) I was very surprised. They added faster start for beginners players - more comfortable tutorial on Rookgaard, starter items after complete the tutorial (if you decide to leave Isle by new Tower which offers you an "starter pack" for beginners). They added new monsters for low-level players (bee's family & wasp's family) to kinda "speed-up" this boring stage of game. They making good decisions.

People still play and want to play no matter if there are runes or "call girls" or "your mother/father" in shop.
Nobody is forcing you to buy those. Of course is p2w aspect and person with huge wallet can run with tons of runes from shop but before they add this change, people with huge wallets bought runes from venezuelan guys or from different way so.. no matter what you do - there will be an always "option" to spent real money and get more comfort
Without runes in shop? What? People have groups on facebooks / guys who can make runes for you and even.. they can purchase simple Medivia Coins and sell them to people in-game and for that money they can purchase runes and stuff.

So this discussion will never end because from beginning there shouldn't be "Medivia Coin" because of possibility to sell it to players for in-game money.
It's pointless discussion and in MMO games there always be an P2W aspect, no matter what. Just have to get used to it or not play / look for other game where it is not actually such a thing. Which is extremely difficult and rather impossible because every author of any cultural source - mmo, song, movie, illustration, art - want's to earn money for their work to be able to payout programmers/graphics designers/etc.
That is 100% understandable.

Rollern said:

You are ruining your own game and I can think of another company that did the exactly same while ignoring their players.

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That is a matter of perspective. You believe that CipSoft ruined Tibia, I disagree and I'm certain they disagree as well. The same goes to Medivia, we did what we thought was right thing to do to get away from Tibia, whether you agree with it or not, but it was our right to do so.

It is time to accept that by either playing the game or not. None of us is telling you what to do, yet you act like you are forced to play Medivia.

That being the case, our community has has a vote on the updates if you look at our Discord. In fact, we do change a lot of things based on feedback from players because they are the ones playing the game and not us, so they have the right to criticize things they do not like and they help us improve the game moving it forward and not backward. However, regarding the backward part, there is one type of players we will never listen to and we will always ignore and those are Tibia die hard players crying* over lack of Tibia sprites.

* I do apologize for this word as I do not like it myself, but there is nothing more funny that a player getting angry over inability to use Tibia sprites.

Rollern said:

Well imagine if he did take it at SS instead. Now he don't even need to lol.

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Following screenshot was taken today, so same day as his post, but taken roughly 7 hours later:



This is why I suggested to take the screenshot at the server save.

Iryont said:

That is a matter of perspective. You believe that CipSoft ruined Tibia, I disagree and I'm certain they disagree as well. The same goes to Medivia, we did what we thought was right thing to do to get away from Tibia, whether you agree with it or not, but it was our right to do so.

It is time to accept that by either playing the game or not. None of us is telling you what to do, yet you act like you are forced to play Medivia.

That being the case, our community has has a vote on the updates if you look at our Discord. In fact, we do change a lot of things based on feedback from players because they are the ones playing the game and not us, so they have the right to criticize things they do not like and they help us improve the game moving it forward and not backward. However, regarding the backward part, there is one type of players we will never listen to and we will always ignore and those are Tibia die hard players crying* over lack of Tibia sprites.

* I do apologize for this word as I do not like it myself, but there is nothing more funny that a player getting angry over inability to use Tibia sprites.



Following screenshot was taken today, so same day as his post, but taken roughly 7 hours later:

This is why I suggested to take the screenshot at the server save.

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well add more places like osaris dp where u cant even lure a rat to 1293192391 full afk runemakers standing there


also in case online drop allow additional multi client that should work to keep "safe" online count even tho players quitting medivia


you already deleted over 50+ unique players BEFORE adding griefing rule cuz we killed too many venesuelan cashmakers and runemakers



how somebody could threat medivia serious now?


FUNNY FACT:
they even deleted 200 rp from prophecy full rpg guy cuz he shared ip with one of our pk team members (same house) even tho he didnt pk with us (scared of being hunted dont ask me why) that was atleast two months BEFORE they added griefing rule (pking wasnt bannable offence) and ofc ignoring his e-mails because who care about random 200 rp right? we got vnzl botters thats enough

It's literally full of MC'ers now, nothing more. Was great until you thought you would re-invent the wheel or smth. Bummer!

Making new content and stuff is very good and vital but alienating your entire playerbase by making it a Zezenia rip off is taking it too far mate hence the drop in players. Just swallow your pride, we know you will do it sooner or later and make it possible with a 7.4 sprite pack as you probably know by now it's the only way

And sorry @Iryont I don't want to sound mean or anything it's just the truth. I hope you don't take it personal. I love(d) Medivia that's why I'm so passionate about it Have a good day mate.

Rollern said:

It's literally full of MC'ers now, nothing more. Was great until you thought you would re-invent the wheel or smth. Bummer!

Making new content and stuff is very good and vital but alienating your entire playerbase by making it a Zezenia rip off is taking it too far mate hence the drop in players. Just swallow your pride, we know you will do it sooner or later and make it possible with a 7.4 sprite pack as you probably know by now it's the only way

And sorry @Iryont I don't want to sound mean or anything it's just the truth. I hope you don't take it personal. I love(d) Medivia that's why I'm so passionate about it Have a good day mate.

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please elaborate on similarities between zezenia and medevia I as person (or even azura-retro server hoster) would like to know more than some empty words ( example : npcs working same / actions working same/ movements working same/ weapons working same/other scripts worikng same) is something i personally would not consider rip off when they have more than 50% of their Mb is custom right now (considering both map/items/actions/map/events/client megabytes). this is engine. this is systems this is what works. this is what sells. this is not something that would not fall in between game rules

Oh my god, the frustration in here is unreal. It's hilarious.

Typical. I/my friend got banned time to bash the server

Anyways, the game is going forward in its own direction and players seem to love it.

And I do understand that some players that want 7.4 nostalgia all over again get mad (thats why this thread was made) but you need to understand that its not Tibia anymore and that Medivia is going its own direction whether you like it or not.

Saphron said:

Typical. I/my friend got banned time to bash the server

Anyways, the game is going forward in its own direction and players seem to love it.

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shaders are unseenable right now might be related to how you inserted pictures but me personally as server hoster. i appreciate every way medivia went through to be its own game and players did too by showing its online_count respect.

The file size was too big and the image with the shader didnt work but you can check it here: Log In or Sign Up to View (https://fb.watch/5BjrVbk3QP/)

Cheers

In less than 1 year Medivia will have a working sprite pack for 7.4, trust me!
I think Iryont knows this aswell. He will change his client so that a 7.4 sprite pack would work after every update, and that's a good thing.

Nothing wrong with your sprites Saphron but it's not what drawing attention to the server

I love Medivia but now all the servers are really easy in a short time you reach level 200 and I do not like that, if one day they were to launch a server exp x1 I would invest all the time there is because it would be worth it otherwise no

I don't care about the sprites that much, cause It's the gameplay that matters. What bothered me when I last played there was that while the whole mainland is revamped, there are just a few spots that are viable for hunting and I feel like it's not even worth hunting anywhere else - the balance is really off. I played a paladin on prophecy (lowest population) and I wanted to be smart and did tasks at OF with 3 bows: I was switching them for the best efficiency. Then I quickly discovered that I could make x5 the XP with good profit on dream tomb. It's not even worth going anywhere else if it's taken, it's better to log out there and come back in few hours to check the spot. Rinse and repeat until you're level 200 and then switch to SDs and go hydras/demons/warlocks/whatever. It's really sad cause the new mainland is beautiful but there's a little sense in exploring it as it is not rewarding at all. Let's compare it with Dura or Tibiantis: there are no outstanding spots in terms of exp/profit and it's not so easy to just shoot runes at everything since runes are not as cheap as in medivia. Sell few scrolls on medivia or go to black market on facebook and with just a few dollars you can have bps of bps of runes.

Medivia is not Tibia. Medivia is what this community should be about, creating your own game with the tools provided.

Medivia developers can for sure get better at talking with their players as any other game, while it frankly is a hard balance as you will never be able to satisfy everyone. (They got a shitstorm just a few weeks ago so they could for sure have a bit better humble attitude than we see in this thread)

It is quite ridiculous that this mainly seem to be about sprites, which is one of the most amazing things they’ve done. (Even if I get that things really can be about a gameplay feeling)
Seem to be 2-3 people just trying to throw negativity, with one person even posting a pure player killing video? I want to believe that there are other ways being heard than this.

Play the game, or play another game.
Keep it up Medivia Developers.
Kind Regards,
Eldin