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Don't Work With (Adversario#4615) and (Carcoo#2914)

My words being taken out of context I can see, anyways. I am retired with less time then usual, only if questions are given towards me or if anything special is requested as stated in messages I'll leave notes and nothing else.
Anything after the deal is done, you can ask for and I'll give a hand which has not been made.

Anyways,
I'm out.
Good luck with whatever happened. Wish you both the best.
 
I'm normaly not involving myself into such topics, because I couldn't care less who scammed who.
However it angers me to see people selling stuff which is basicly not done by themselves, don't get me wrong it's not about the money, it's about the disrespect people held towards the person who made all the work and aren't even left credited (probably the biggest reason a lot of devs left over the years)

I didn't even have to take a closer look at the code and already saw that the entire core thing is copy & paste based off my old training room script which I made almost a decade ago. (leaving the link here)
Feel free to base stuff on other peoples work but atleast don't claim it to be yours (or credit them) even if you made some utterly garbage edits to it and ended up making it some low performant script which is a disgrace to the original code.

I feel sorry for all of your clients which received such copy and paste scripts where you barely put any effort in it and even charged money for it.

Sorry for all the offtopic, but I felt the urgue to voice my opinion in this case, because that's exactly what drags otland further to the edge of dying.
 
I'm normaly not involving myself into such topics, because I couldn't care less who scammed who.
However it angers me to see people selling stuff which is basicly not done by themselves, don't get me wrong it's not about the money, it's about the disrespect people held towards the person who made all the work and aren't even left credited (probably the biggest reason a lot of devs left over the years)

I didn't even have to take a closer look at the code and already saw that the entire core thing is copy & paste based off my old training room script which I made almost a decade ago. (leaving the link here)
Feel free to base stuff on other peoples work but atleast don't claim it to be yours (or credit them) even if you made some utterly garbage edits to it and ended up making it some low performant script which is a disgrace to the original code.

I feel sorry for all of your clients which received such copy and paste scripts where you barely put any effort in it and even charged money for it.

Sorry for all the offtopic, but I felt the urgue to voice my opinion in this case, because that's exactly what drags otland further to the edge of dying.
What code of your training excuse me ?? !! Just not because there are similar in codes or function that means I took your codes I didn't know you and it's my first time to see this topic you mentioned. Sorry if it just similar but I really didn't take yours
 
What code of your training excuse me ?? !! Just not because there are similar in codes or function that means I took your codes I didn't know you and it's my first time to see this topic you mentioned. Sorry if it just similar but I really didn't take yours
I guess I need a new pairs of eyes if this is just "similar" you copy pasted the whole thing even with line commentary...
Instead of saying "hey, sorry I took your code as base and made a complete mess out of it" you still claim it to be a coincidence, not sure what's worse right now, your attitude which obviously shows that you lack common sense and maturity to admit or that you really believe someone believes that shit...
 
I guess I need a new pairs of eyes if this is just "similar" you copy pasted the whole thing even with line commentary...
Instead of saying "hey, sorry I took your code as base and made a complete mess out of it" you still claim it to be a coincidence, not sure what's worse right now, your attitude which obviously shows that you lack common sense and maturity to admit or that you really believe someone believes that shit...
I really don't take it from your topic my friend gave me it in old dB was using it in many scripts it's the first time to know that it owns by you I didn't even know it.So I have no fault on it because i didn',t even take it from bro normally codes in our work always shares and resold even bot scripts if someone gave to one and one give to two someone has no reason to ask two why u used my code he doesn't know that someone's code he thought that it one code.. here is my apologies if it's yours :(
 
I really don't take it from your topic my friend gave me it in old dB was using it in many scripts it's the first time to know that it owns by you I didn't even know it.So I have no fault on it because i didn',t even take it from bro normally codes in our work always shares and resold even bot scripts if someone gave to one and one give to two someone has no reason to ask two why u used my code he doesn't know that someone's code he thought that it one code.. here is my apologies if it's yours :(
Damn you can't even lie properly xD
 
I already paid for several services for carcoo, all were delivered on time, and were well done. he had some problems from a motorcycle accident, but he was very professional and gave me the correct service. I think he is a good programmer. but I guess that's to each their own. I had no problems. I always pay my services by paypal to him.
 

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Man if you pay someone in this comunuty ofcourse u get scammed!
 
Learn to program yourself, there is no excuse anymore, we even have AI to help us understand programming concepts and everything around it. I got scammed so I learned to program myself. I couldn't accept that I got scammed because of my lack of knowledge.
 
Motorcycle accident u said? Unlucky xD
I already paid for several services for carcoo, all were delivered on time, and were well done. he had some problems from a motorcycle accident, but he was very professional and gave me the correct service. I think he is a good programmer. but I guess that's to each their own. I had no problems. I always pay my services by paypal to him.
 
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No longer valid. He is reselling others work. If you are hiring him, be prepared that the code he uses might not be his.
Algorithm (https://otland.net/members/algorithm.252784/) is Carcoo (Shadow) for anyone wondering.
So oen feels isolated and needs some drama to live haha.

Look Oen you said it yourself to somebody when he accused you from using his sprites even used mine, i paid you 450USD for trash codes that we had to go through 4 hours anydesk session to get them solved even after that they killed my release and i see no issue in selling them after upgrading them to be usable.

you must be aware that the version you sold me had the following issues babe:
1) the store is very incomplete and was being sold at the same time for the same price full version you decided to give me the short version
2) the version you sent of tooltips was causing fps drop, completely different from your current one as i saw it & needless to mention that it freaks out at most of the names xD showing many weird symbols not few names as you said earlier before i buy it.


that what i can remember i don't really care that much anymore, so to be clear before saying your part "Your sold codes" they were trash xD
- Your codes made my server unplayable due to the client closing and freezing every 10-20 mins and players from the last release can confirm it.

- You stolen my sprites and used it in your server and in your show-off threads

Needless to say that those issues of yours costed me more than 1k usd that was spent on that season, i contacted you about the sprites you said nothing useful and i saw your message so i told my self then why not re-sell his code he already gave me buggy ones that i had to fix and now without a release so where is your problem if i fixed it made it useable and sold it again? you already support stolen assets tho :p and this is not stolen :

Digital assets (ALL OF IT) are free for use by anybody owns the files so have a lovely day XD



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Also i just recovered my losses that happened because of you with your codes and created my own ones for my upcoming release, so your codes are of no value for me

So don't come cry and complain after you said it with a wide volume that you support the use of stolen assets.

so what do you really want ? xD

Also it was really sad to get my comment deleted after having those likes xD, feels like somebody here is helping you out hiding your shit which many knows and more will know by time <3.

I never respected you actually and it started showing by time and im not the first neither the last to realize what kind of man you really are.
 
No longer valid. He is reselling others work. If you are hiring him, be prepared that the code he uses might not be his.
Algorithm (https://otland.net/members/algorithm.252784/) is Carcoo (Shadow) for anyone wondering.
As i know he not only selling other people work (auras, shaders, effects, sprites, scripts ) , but he and other guys work in way to decode other peoples clients to steal theyr sprites, i think they got acces to all tibia related clients sprites
 
As i know he not only selling other people work (auras, shaders, effects, sprites, scripts ) , but he and other guys work in way to decode other peoples clients to steal theyr sprites, i think they got acces to all tibia related clients sprites
So oen feels isolated and needs some drama to live haha.

Look Oen you said it yourself to somebody when he accused you from using his sprites even used mine, i paid you 450USD for trash codes that we had to go through 4 hours anydesk session to get them solved even after that they killed my release and i see no issue in selling them after upgrading them to be usable.

you must be aware that the version you sold me had the following issues babe:
1) the store is very incomplete and was being sold at the same time for the same price full version you decided to give me the short version
2) the version you sent of tooltips was causing fps drop, completely different from your current one as i saw it & needless to mention that it freaks out at most of the names xD showing many weird symbols not few names as you said earlier before i buy it.


that what i can remember i don't really care that much anymore, so to be clear before saying your part "Your sold codes" they were trash xD
- Your codes made my server unplayable due to the client closing and freezing every 10-20 mins and players from the last release can confirm it.

- You stolen my sprites and used it in your server and in your show-off threads

Needless to say that those issues of yours costed me more than 1k usd that was spent on that season, i contacted you about the sprites you said nothing useful and i saw your message so i told my self then why not re-sell his code he already gave me buggy ones that i had to fix and now without a release so where is your problem if i fixed it made it useable and sold it again? you already support stolen assets tho :p and this is not stolen :

Digital assets (ALL OF IT) are free for use by anybody owns the files so have a lovely day XD



IMPORATNT NOTE !
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Also i just recovered my losses that happened because of you with your codes and created my own ones for my upcoming release, so your codes are of no value for me

So don't come cry and complain after you said it with a wide volume that you support the use of stolen assets.

so what do you really want ? xD

Also it was really sad to get my comment deleted after having those likes xD, feels like somebody here is helping you out hiding your shit which many knows and more will know by time <3.

I never respected you actually and it started showing by time and im not the first neither the last to realize what kind of man you really are.
Also Oen, where are the principals you are talking about when you shared and used my source that was insanely modified to be of use in 200+ online players ot, i found my source edits identical and even somebody sent me it with just extra charms system lmfao, you literally leaked my old source and now complaining about your shitty codes, it was useless and i sold it,, my source was powerful and you leaked it you can't think you owe me shit mate rethink what you are doing :)
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As i know he not only selling other people work (auras, shaders, effects, sprites, scripts ) , but he and other guys work in way to decode other peoples clients to steal theyr sprites, i think they got acces to all tibia related clients sprites
add me on discord let me show you my project if you found me using a single sprite from other server you got to say whatever you do, but you are actually a nobody talking non sense about somebody he never met or knew so why should anybody believe you? share proof or stay silent because i can show you a 400MB otbm map without a single stolen sprite, i can even show you with object builder what my assets contains but actually you won't want to go that far because you have no idea how to re-act if i don't use stolen sprites +


BIG +

Stolen sprites are all available on 5 discord server and they all have nothing to do with me.

The only server i decrypted was kalveria in attempt to learn something new even after blackmailing owner of kalveria (Taking into consedration that it was a mere joke because this should be a huge failure for a huge OT like kalveria ** I told him where is the problem and how to get it solved, i didn't use/share any of his assets neither any of the servers that got decrypted i actually provide free encryption for good servers that deserve to stay protected. so don't come at me grabbing your Mellow cap and saying you steal shit. nah you don't know shit who even are you ?
 
So many lies, its unbelievable.
But I totally get it. My customers keep coming back for more because they love having their clients crash every 10-15min, low FPS and server lagging. It just makes sense.
 
So many lies, its unbelievable.
But I totally get it. My customers keep coming back for more because they love having their clients crash every 10-15min, low FPS and server lagging. It just makes sense.
yeah buddy its too many lies that you bothered to make this pointless comment

Your store proofs that you have multiple versions of each system, i found a full version of the same store you sold to me given to "Somebody" for free but not by you, but its the same just highly needed modifications and support to more features and he said whoever gave it to him bought it for 50USD i can show you a comparison between the 2 lua files from serverside and client side and but im sure you don't need me to show you and aware of what im saying 100% unless you insist on keeping up your arrogant old fashioned attitude.
 
yeah buddy its too many lies that you bothered to make this pointless comment

Your store proofs that you have multiple versions of each system, i found a full version of the same store you sold to me given to "Somebody" for free but not by you, but its the same just highly needed modifications and support to more features and he said whoever gave it to him bought it for 50USD i can show you a comparison between the 2 lua files from serverside and client side and but im sure you don't need me to show you and aware of what im saying 100% unless you insist on keeping up your arrogant old fashioned attitude.
Ofc I have multiple versions, if someone asked about edits then I made them, but it was for them, not for everyone else. I never share exclusive edits that someone paid for. But I always send the base non-edited version. What happens then is between me and the customer.
 
Ofc I have multiple versions, if someone asked about edits then I made them, but it was for them, not for everyone else. I never share exclusive edits that someone paid for. But I always send the base non-edited version. What happens then is between me and the customer.
Cya oen xD
 
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