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Luciferianism, the new age religion.

@ Dastan and flaite1
Quit your meaningless arguing, by both of your's statements you have shown us that you lack alot of reasoning and that both are equally closed-minded, I would advice both of yous to analyze each others differences and maybe you will learn something valuable, I believe that you need to take all the good things that the world has to offer and discard all that has no meaning.
flaite, do you seriously believe that we can solve things by means of "peace"?
as nice as peace sound to be, it is in reality not existent for everyone, the only "peace" that we have is the personal one, war is a necessity to advance(as cruel as that thought may be).
I've noticed that you are switching topics as soon as your previous statements get "contradicted" and that's not good on your behalf.

Dastan, if you really are an Atheist, you need to learn not to blindly go and "correct" everyone's "stupidity" that makes you equally as stupid as a Theist that goes and blindly goes and "corrects" everyone's "stupidity", instead why don't you take sometime and learn something from them.

I'm atheist too but I don't go pointing out the finger at everything I think is wrong or incorrect, that's why I do not consider myself a regular atheist.
 
Guys, stay on-topic and make your arguments (if theres any... >.>) _clean_... and yes, that's a warning.
 
Well im sorry, ive got carried away there, and it seems that you havent read all of my posts shinmaru since i already stated that im not an atheist.

Ontopic~
I never heard bout a religion thats called Luciferian~
 
Well ocultists worship lucifer, althought lucifer is not a real entity he is seen as the light bearer, the one that oppened eve's eyes towards the possibility of man to become gods, luciferianism is more like an idea than a religion but im calling it a new age religion since most are worshiping those ideas without knowing they are.
 
Well im sorry, ive got carried away there, and it seems that you havent read all of my posts shinmaru since i already stated that im not an atheist.

Ontopic~
I never heard bout a religion thats called Luciferian~
My bad I confused you for the other guy! :P LOL

Well ocultists worship lucifer, althought lucifer is not a real entity he is seen as the light bearer, the one that oppened eve's eyes towards the possibility of man to become gods, luciferianism is more like an idea than a religion but im calling it a new age religion since most are worshiping those ideas without knowing they are.
I believe they know what it is and what they are worshiping, they are = to satanism, all they probably did is give it "meaning".
 
I believe in God, and have seen "signs" in my own life. One time I thought something horrible happened to my mother, since I came home and our door was unlocked and there was a broken glass on the floor. I couldn't reach her for hours. I prayed, and minutes after she called me back to tell me she went out, the glass probably fell off the table when she slammed the door(and forgot to lock it). Another time I lost my brand new phone and after I prayed the people who found it called my home and said they have it :P. Now these might just be coincidences, I choose to believe they are not. However I judge people by their deeds, personal morals, and character. I do not care what belief they hold(as long as it is not evil, such as being a Nazi), they can be Muslim, Jeish, Atheist, Buddhist, it doesn't matter to me, because we are all humans and we have to learn to unite and accept eachother and embrace our differences. Take an example from the Egyptians who chanted "Muslims and Christians, we are one", something I thought I would see millions of people chant.
 
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I believe in God, and have seen "signs" in my own life. One time I thought something horrible happened to my mother, since I came home and our door was unlocked and there was a broken glass on the floor. I couldn't reach her for hours. I prayed, and minutes after she called me back to tell me she went out, the glass probably fell off the table when she slammed the door(and forgot to lock it). Another time I lost my brand new phone and after I prayed the people who found it called my home and said they have it :P. Now these might just be coincidences, I choose to believe they are not. However I judge people by their deeds, personal morals, and character. I do not care what belief they hold(as long as it is not evil, such as being a Nazi), they can be Muslim, Jeish, Atheist, Buddhist, it doesn't matter to me, because we are all humans and we have to learn to unite and accept eachother and embrace our differences. Take an example from the Egyptians who chanted "Muslims and Christians, we are one", something I thought I would never hear a Muslim say, let alone millions chant.

That you never thought a muslim would say? Damn that sounded racist in my ears. Even though you just explained yourself non-racist, I think you still have prejudices against Islam. Just as most people living in Europe/USA.
 
@Up I guess he has the picture that all muslims are extremists, but i cant judge him for that since for example here in the media in austria everyone thats muslim and that has done something bad is marked as muslim in the media (For example the muslim terrorists killed innocent people or the muslim man killed his wife) but you never hear anything about the christian murderer that killed his mother or the christian pastor that raped children.

@ Dixter Please dont call the extremists muslims since we muslims are very peacefull people, were like all the other faithfull people doesnt matter what religion they have, only because some people take god as a excuse to kill innocent people doesnt mean that we muslims believe in that, in fact is it forbidden for us muslims to kill another person.

And i saw the pictures myself how the christians stood around the muslims and protected them while they were praying, and i have to say it was a very touching moment.

Also when i think that the things u said up there arent signs of god, i think its good that u believe in it.

It doesnt matter if someones now a nazi, a rebell a terrorist or whatever, they are all just extremists using excuses to get power, it would actually be wonderfull if people stopped fighting about dumb things like oil, gold and land.
 
That you never thought a muslim would say? Damn that sounded racist in my ears. Even though you just explained yourself non-racist, I think you still have prejudices against Islam. Just as most people living in Europe/USA.

I did not mean it like that...I am not prejudice. I meant that I never thought that millions of christians and muslims would unite as one, because there is usually a lot of hatred between our religions. I did not mean "one Muslim" I misexplained myself. Once again, it wasn't meant to be prejudice, I have a ot of Muslim friends. I just meant that it was beautiful to see Muslims and Christians unite.

@Up I guess he has the picture that all muslims are extremists, but i cant judge him for that since for example here in the media in austria everyone thats muslim and that has done something bad is marked as muslim in the media (For example the muslim terrorists killed innocent people or the muslim man killed his wife) but you never hear anything about the christian murderer that killed his mother or the christian pastor that raped children.

@ Dixter Please dont call the extremists muslims since we muslims are very peacefull people, were like all the other faithfull people doesnt matter what religion they have, only because some people take god as a excuse to kill innocent people doesnt mean that we muslims believe in that, in fact is it forbidden for us muslims to kill another person.

And i saw the pictures myself how the christians stood around the muslims and protected them while they were praying, and i have to say it was a very touching moment.

Also when i think that the things u said up there arent signs of god, i think its good that u believe in it.

It doesnt matter if someones now a nazi, a rebell a terrorist or whatever, they are all just extremists using excuses to get power, it would actually be wonderfull if people stopped fighting about dumb things like oil, gold and land.

I fixed my post, once again I apologize if I offended you I certainly do not view all Muslims as extremists, because I am friends with many Muslims. I just hope that the unity between Christians and Muslims will continue because it's such a wonderful and beautiful thing.
 
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I did not mean it like that...I am not prejudice. I meant that I never thought that millions of christians and muslims would unite as one, because there is usually a lot of hatred between our religions. I did not mean "one Muslim" I misexplained myself. Once again, it wasn't meant to be prejudice, I have a ot of Muslim friends. I just meant that it was beautiful to see Muslims and Christians unite.



I fixed my post, once again I apologize if I offended you I certainly do not view all Muslims as extremists, because I am friends with many Muslims. I just hope that the unity between Christians and Muslims will continue because it's such a wonderful and beautiful thing.

U dont have to apologize for anything, it was an missunderstanding ^^
 
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