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Preaching The End of Open Tibia

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Basically every server I've played lately it's the same average crap with lab mouse brain players as base. The servers with original content that I've been playing are really fun, but empty. The player base of Open Tibia is a bunch of people who doesn't even care about game anymore.
I wonder how Open Tibia will be in 5 years? It's sad to see the effort of the TFS team and the awesome new features being wasted in the same generic content of Open Tibia Servers, and those who dare to be different are doomed to die.

As a woman with kids myself I found really hard to have time to play, but when I do I have to see the same real Tibia shit in every populated server, which it pains me because I feel I'm wasting my time. Sadly any custom project nowdays is near dead because the herd of sheeps just won't go there as I do.

Personally I prefer spending time in discovering something new than the same Open Tibia crap.

My opinion: If we want Open Tibia to Survive we have to encourage new standar in OTServers, the same global copy paste is just getting old.

The true and facts: Life of Open Tibia is about to die because our generation and the current one playing it is about to get jobs and life just like we did. And we are doing nothing to prevent this.
 

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Your thread is like copying rl map ots: it exists alredy
Good job
There are so many custom ots which u never ever tried out prob but nah instead of trying them out u creating a thread with smiliar text which has been created 20 times in one year
Good job again
 

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There are some amazing custom projects that are very much alive. For example MediviaOnline (around 2400 unique users login daily which translates to around 1k online players) with HD graphics, sound engine, shaders and so much more. There are few other projects that are really interesting and well developed as well, I dont think the OT scene is dying, it evolves and some projects that are being created are far beyond what we saw back in 2010.
 

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There are some amazing custom projects that are very much alive. For example MediviaOnline (around 2400 unique users login daily which translates to around 1k online players) with HD graphics, sound engine, shaders and so much more. There are few other projects that are really interesting and well developed as well, I dont think the OT scene is dying, it evolves and some projects that are being created are far beyond what we saw back in 2010

Custom open tibia server is in their prime time now if u ask me
 

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Post your opinion in a respectful manner. Implying offensive acronyms which can be deduced easily is as much as just typing it right away.
the problem is not the real tibia maps, the problem is people like you that complain about them.

why do you think custom ots get almost zero players?
because nobody wants to fucking play them.

how hard can it be to understand? open tibia works in a great way; if you want to play something, you play it.
a server with 1000 players means 1000 people chose to play there.
a custom server with 3 players means 3 people like it so they play there.
its pretty much a democracy. do you complain about democracies in our society as well?

I am really really really tired of people always complaining about UGH HUH MY FAVORITE SERVER DOESNT HAVE ANY PLAYERS WHY WONT YOU PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE SAME THINGS AS I DO????????? LISTEN TO MY OPINION AND PLAY THIS SUPER 999X CUSTOM OTS WITH 10 MB MAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE SHOULD HAVE 800 PLAYERS!!!!
 
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the problem is not the real tibia maps, the problem is people like you that complain about them.

why do you think custom ots get almost zero players?
because nobody wants to fucking play them.

how hard can it be to understand? open tibia works in a great way; if you want to play something, you play it.
a server with 1000 players means 1000 people chose to play there.
a custom server with 3 players means 3 people like it so they play there.
its pretty much a democracy. do you complain about democracies in our society as well?

I am really really really tired of people always complaining about UGH HUH MY FAVORITE SERVER DOESNT HAVE ANY PLAYERS WHY WONT YOU PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE SAME THINGS AS I DO????????? LISTEN TO MY OPINION AND PLAY THIS SUPER 999X CUSTOM OTS WITH 10 MB MAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE SHOULD HAVE 800 PLAYERS!!!!
This is not said because of the likes of me, but the entire future of the project of Open Tibia. It's like having one of my sons decided to become a DJ after I paid all the university bills. I know they are free to be whatever they want to, but we all know it's not the best and all the effort is wasted.
Look at the TFS developers, they are amazing, and all the effort is wasted to fill average servers of ruin and nonsense. My opinion doesn't really matters, but the future of Open Tibia does, you can feel and say what you want but in the end we all will pay the price. No one will love this crap servers forever. WE NEED INNOVATION.
There are some amazing custom projects that are very much alive. For example MediviaOnline (around 2400 unique users login daily which translates to around 1k online players) with HD graphics, sound engine, shaders and so much more. There are few other projects that are really interesting and well developed as well, I dont think the OT scene is dying, it evolves and some projects that are being created are far beyond what we saw back in 2010.
Media it's another real Tibia copy paste to me, even the map, boring. However they give some nice retro feelings, they just sell nostalgia, that's all.
Custom open tibia server is in their prime time now if u ask me
In their copy paste prime time.
 

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so tell us, what is the ideal server for you?
 

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it has been dead for years already... 😅 as always, it up to us to keep it alive as much as we can, but it will die eventually


list of regular threads:
  • otservlist complaints
  • "state of this community" threads
  • tibia online player count (tibia is dying!1!)
  • "what kind/version of server should I make?"
  • what happened to server "X" / bring server "X" back
  • user "x" is a scammer/thief!!1
  • ot 8.6 with lower rates than rl tibia (???)
 

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This is not said because of the likes of me, but the entire future of the project of Open Tibia. It's like having one of my sons decided to become a DJ after I paid all the university bills. I know they are free to be whatever they want to, but we all know it's not the best and all the effort is wasted.
Look at the TFS developers, they are amazing, and all the effort is wasted to fill average servers of ruin and nonsense. My opinion doesn't really matters, but the future of Open Tibia does, you can feel and say what you want but in the end we all will pay the price. No one will love this crap servers forever. WE NEED INNOVATION.

Media it's another real Tibia copy paste to me, even the map, boring. However they give some nice retro feelings, they just sell nostalgia, that's all.

In their copy paste prime time.

As far as I know Medivia has now custom map, sprites and pretty much everything since 2019
 
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As far as I know Medivia has now custom map, sprites and pretty much everything since 2019
Haven't been on medivia in a while. Last time they had Thais and all that copy paste world map
so tell us, what is the ideal server for you?
Any custom server, doesn't matter if it's empty. Not copy paste. Even it can be a little copy paste but with new experience of game.
it has been dead for years already... 😅 as always, it up to us to keep it alive as much as we can, but it will die eventually
Indeed. I remember an old OT 8.1 named The Legend of Terra, was amazing. Wonder if there's a copy somewhere to play it. I think the owner name was Shiva.
 

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You are wrong. Targeting custom Open Tibia servers to regular Tibia players is the main mistake in my case, they won't care or just judge by the numbers without even play the game. I think if servers like mine target non-Tibia players as player base they will success. I already made a nice profit with a low player base, so I can't say project is "dead".
Open Tibia might have bad times and developers but I think it will never die! :)
 

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I agree with you, however you seem to have missed the incredibly toxic part of the community. This thread alone shines a light on it... Almost 0 discussion about your points but plenty of "you are wrong" LOL. No one wants to play tibia with such a toxic community, that's part of the reason why all the custom servers are dead, it's because they require time investment and who the fuck wants to spend that time with these people?

It's been dead for a very long time in terms of new ots and new players, the community has been replaced mostly by toxic drones and this forum makes sure not to encourage new developers to enter and start making their own servers.

What we badly need is this forum to be welcoming so that newbies can start making newbie unique servers again which attract new players and to keep the spirit of Tibia alive. Fresh blood drives every community(this is yet to be realised on otland). However pretty much anyone in any position here to address this is completely blind to it as an issue so, yeah...

It also doesn't help that developers are making uber commercialised and heavily modified servers(and wonder why they don't get players LOL). It's just not tibia at that point and it's predatory. No better than CIP which is probably why real Tibia has seen growth while Open Tibia has been caught withering recently.

Thankfully TFS and OTClient are getting some much needed love recently and the barrier of entry is slowly coming back down to where it used to be. This is going to help tremendously when anyone can come and make their ideas come to life without spending £1000s, we will start seeing much more variety and fun on the server lists :)
 

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Yes I agree with Silba. The way to go is to make it easier for newcomers to make servers.

I understand that people want to capitalize from their knowledge of making servers, but that reason alone is a big factor of this problem. Sharing knowledge doesn’t help if you are thinking of how to earn money from this.
 
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I agree with you, however you seem to have missed the incredibly toxic part of the community. This thread alone shines a light on it... Almost 0 discussion about your points but plenty of "you are wrong" LOL. No one wants to play tibia with such a toxic community, that's part of the reason why all the custom servers are dead, it's because they require time investment and who the fuck wants to spend that time with these people?

It's been dead for a very long time in terms of new ots and new players, the community has been replaced mostly by toxic drones and this forum makes sure not to encourage new developers to enter and start making their own servers.

What we badly need is this forum to be welcoming so that newbies can start making newbie unique servers again which attract new players and to keep the spirit of Tibia alive. Fresh blood drives every community(this is yet to be realised on otland). However pretty much anyone in any position here to address this is completely blind to it as an issue so, yeah...

It also doesn't help that developers are making uber commercialised and heavily modified servers(and wonder why they don't get players LOL). It's just not tibia at that point and it's predatory. No better than CIP which is probably why real Tibia has seen growth while Open Tibia has been caught withering recently.

Thankfully TFS and OTClient are getting some much needed love recently and the barrier of entry is slowly coming back down to where it used to be. This is going to help tremendously when anyone can come and make their ideas come to life without spending £1000s, we will start seeing much more variety and fun on the server lists :)
Is anyone reading that bible? However we all know Tibia and Open Tibia community is disgusting in the first place.
You are wrong. Targeting custom Open Tibia servers to regular Tibia players is the main mistake in my case, they won't care or just judge by the numbers without even play the game. I think if servers like mine target non-Tibia players as player base they will success. I already made a nice profit with a low player base, so I can't say project is "dead".
Open Tibia might have bad times and developers but I think it will never die! :)
That might be true having non tibia players as new base might lead to a new future with new people taking the wheel and fresh ideas.

Yes I agree with Silba. The way to go is to make it easier for newcomers to make servers.

I understand that people want to capitalize from their knowledge of making servers, but that reason alone is a big factor of this problem. Sharing knowledge doesn’t help if you are thinking of how to earn money from this.
But having new people who doesn't even know what to do creating servergames might lead to an entire list of servers without quality. At least the copy paste gives pre made playable content. We need to make an organized community of creators of content. Not just random tfs tibia maker. Have u been into mario maker or similar? It's a joke.
 

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But having new people who doesn't even know what to do creating servergames might lead to an entire list of servers without quality. At least the copy paste gives pre made playable content. We need to make an organized community of creators of content. Not just random tfs tibia maker. Have u been into mario maker or similar? It's a joke.
Were you around when OT was 7.x dominated?
Are you aware of Roblox?

A project made with good intentions is almost always a fun experience regardless of how "noob" the developer is.
Newbies become good developers, we need to accept them and nurture them so they can become the next good developer, you're falling for the same trap as everyone else right now, underestimating the power of newbies and their content. They're the most powerful driving force of any community.

Also, there's almost no "quality" OTs online right now, if there were then you wouldn't be here voicing yourself over not finding one to play.
 
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