Pinama
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In this post I don't want to complain, but point out a certain thing and maybe warn someone against making my mistake. Mainly for people who carry out any paid jobs in otland. (and not only)
The situation started normally. I got a message on discord asking me to codee ots template. Everything has been settled. I always ask to send half of the payment before and half after when the project is ready and the client is satisfied (this is for the safety of both sides, but I will come back to that later)
The person sent me both payments, the last one on August 8, everything was done as agreed on the discord and the server for which the layout was coded even worked for about a week. (megaglobal.com.br)
On August 25, I got a message from paypal that the buyer "opened the case" and the subject of the purchase, according to him, is not as described. The case was opened for both payments. This person wrote generally things that were out of the a**, that some bugs were not fixed and that his template is being sold on the forum. He even included a screen showing another template made by me, belonging to a completely different person. Lie after lie...
Yes, it was a job to code the layout of the page, not to fix his other account maker bugs...
And here is what he send to paypal as "selling his website on forum"
while this is the page he wanted to be coded for him.
At the moment when I knew that I had come across an ordinary scammer, whose server failed and he tried to recover some of money, I opened my own claim. Unfortunately, paypal does not take into account any evidence that does not include the name and surname or any personal data of the person. Discord screenshots were useless in this case. The scammer could write whatever he wanted and still it was just a fight of his word against my word. Of course, paypal considered him as the aggrieved party, probably always working in favor of the buyer. In addition, I was fined $ 12 for losing the dispute. Penalty was imposed twice because there were two payments. (Payments that were split into two for safety, and thanks to them, I lost twice as much money)
I made a few mistakes. For sure now I will keep an eye on how the payment is sent. In addition, my mistake was not to search the otland well. This person already has crimes of his own, such as stealing sprites from other servers. Yes, using someone else's design for which they paid without their knowledge or consent is THEFT. His otland account: Jora (jora (https://otland.net/members/jora.232611/)) and his discord: MegaGlobalServer#6394
I wanted to share it for the benefit of the public, because in a few years of doing various things I didn't come across such a sneaky guy and I didn't expect that paypal could work so much to my disadvantage. I lost on paypal but here I can show the truth.
At the end, good luck to everyone, be careful and don't run into scammers.
The situation started normally. I got a message on discord asking me to codee ots template. Everything has been settled. I always ask to send half of the payment before and half after when the project is ready and the client is satisfied (this is for the safety of both sides, but I will come back to that later)
The person sent me both payments, the last one on August 8, everything was done as agreed on the discord and the server for which the layout was coded even worked for about a week. (megaglobal.com.br)
On August 25, I got a message from paypal that the buyer "opened the case" and the subject of the purchase, according to him, is not as described. The case was opened for both payments. This person wrote generally things that were out of the a**, that some bugs were not fixed and that his template is being sold on the forum. He even included a screen showing another template made by me, belonging to a completely different person. Lie after lie...
Yes, it was a job to code the layout of the page, not to fix his other account maker bugs...
And here is what he send to paypal as "selling his website on forum"
while this is the page he wanted to be coded for him.
At the moment when I knew that I had come across an ordinary scammer, whose server failed and he tried to recover some of money, I opened my own claim. Unfortunately, paypal does not take into account any evidence that does not include the name and surname or any personal data of the person. Discord screenshots were useless in this case. The scammer could write whatever he wanted and still it was just a fight of his word against my word. Of course, paypal considered him as the aggrieved party, probably always working in favor of the buyer. In addition, I was fined $ 12 for losing the dispute. Penalty was imposed twice because there were two payments. (Payments that were split into two for safety, and thanks to them, I lost twice as much money)
I made a few mistakes. For sure now I will keep an eye on how the payment is sent. In addition, my mistake was not to search the otland well. This person already has crimes of his own, such as stealing sprites from other servers. Yes, using someone else's design for which they paid without their knowledge or consent is THEFT. His otland account: Jora (jora (https://otland.net/members/jora.232611/)) and his discord: MegaGlobalServer#6394
I wanted to share it for the benefit of the public, because in a few years of doing various things I didn't come across such a sneaky guy and I didn't expect that paypal could work so much to my disadvantage. I lost on paypal but here I can show the truth.
At the end, good luck to everyone, be careful and don't run into scammers.