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Do not trust Bilmattan.

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Bilmattan is a scammer/thief, he stole about 1200$USD from ForgottenL, as he was working as a paypal manager its a long story, and also he was the website-designer for ForgottenL, he also made this when he was desigining our website and sending us files.

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Thank god we had a backup and saved everything, we also were almost down because of losing all our money, we politely asked him for atleast a 100$ and he could keep the 1100$, he didnt even accept that, such a fucking no lifer, thief..

I do not care for who dont trust me, but there is no reason to say all of this and waste my time for lieing, this is the truth and this is what happend, but now we made some hard work and collected some money to pay for the server again, thank you bilmattan for all what you did, now its time to sue you by my own way. ^_^
 
RealSoft said:
That is why I work Solo.

You can't trust ANYONE now days.

Sorry for your losses thou..
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yea :/ its okay, i even was just mad that he couldnt even just send a 100bucks to just pay the dedicated, he could of just sent it but.. :/ ahh well, i already made some money and payed it (thanks to god)
 
Ehm, he've never spammed me, and I hosted his TibiaWar, and I haven't heard that he actually scammed anyone that was working with that project. Your sure your IPN script just wasn't unprotective and a person sendt spoofy results?
 
Hawar said:
*just real mates :)
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not even that.
Your best friend, might be the one stole your money on real tibia long time ago..

4 out of 5 guys I know, would in a few times consider hack their friend for a bullshit reason.
Etc you had an argue about what's right and what's not, or just that you owe him some money you haven't paid back for a while...
There's shit loads of reasons that can make 80% of everyone consider make a bad action and out of those 70% is trying to cover it up, while 30% of them beg for sorry in just a few days.

I let my girl friend have my msn login a few years ago.. we had a small fight and she hacked my msn and spammed bullshit to everyone in my contact list just to see if I was cheating on her, she forgotten the new login and my msn was gone forever, and thanks to that I lost contact with many old friends I had on that msn that I can't contact in other ways...

So I rest my case about share/trust rl mates about things that can hurt me in business way.

Edit: Eternal Ob~ was hacked by his best friend when he was lvl 100~, what I know he lost stuffs for like 6-7kk in his house.
A rumor says mateus dragon wieliki(?) was hacked too and retired, but I don't know if that's true.

yeah, you get my point..
 
Stian, trust me you can ask Fare your self, he knows about it all, he added that file when he was making our website with his layout see?

Forgottenl.hopto.org, he added those files, I wish i took some screenshots while we were talking on MSN, but i was so nervous, and it wasnt in my mind to just tell the people about this, but stian, you know there is no reason for me to do this for someone inicent, anyways I dont really care if you dont believe me, but trust me thats the truth he stole over 1200$.
 
I heard he stole shit from 5m0k3 aswell, I used to like that guy. Fuck him! I hope you get your cash back bro!
 
@Topic.

I will write a long story short :
I managed ForgottenLs PayPal and website. I spent many hours of fixing it etc, I wasn't going to get paid and I knew that, but I still did it for fun + Omar was my friend.

I gave Omar access to my PayPal account, but when he tried to pay it got limited because unauctorized access. I had really a hard time to unlock this account (took a month or so), but finally when It was done I was going to withdraw the money, but couldn't.. Got limited once again. So me and Omar got intro a "fight", and got foes. After a day I told him that I could pay it, but he said "I don't care about money, I care about what you done etc..."

And about the thing on latestnews, yes! I did it, if you would fuck me, as you did.

Did I used it to destory your server? No I didn't, I could erased your whole database etc, but didn't.

Edit :
It was around 700 USD, not 1200.

OZKL said:
I heard he stole shit from 5m0k3 aswell, I used to like that guy. Fuck him! I hope you get your cash back bro!
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I stole shit from him? I copied he's agreements without permission, and after he told me that he got mad about it I contacted him and it was no problem.

Get facts before you write OZKL.
 
bilmattan said:
I stole shit from him? I copied he's agreements without permission, and after he told me that he got mad about it I contacted him and it was no problem.

Get facts before you write OZKL.
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Read his post again, he wrote "I heard"........
 
Wow that sucks, sorry to hear it...bilmattan did you make that layout for Meteria?
 
nwtr said:
i think no..

@topic
700USD, 1200 u are **c* crazy?? have 1 form for track the layout,lol
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The layout is made and coded by Vean.

The thread is made by Winnerandy only (and logo).
 
Teh Maverick said:
How much did you pay for it? or was it free?
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I bought it for the "buyout" price, so that layout ain't for sale, but talk to him, he probably got others.

nwtr said:
yep, i know...
more he is f*** crazy -.-
700, 1200 USD <_<
and have one form for track <_<
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Can't fully understand you, "have one form for track" and those, please use a better translater or use one (Sorry (A))
 
bilmattan said:
I bought it for the "buyout" price, so that layout ain't for sale, but talk to him, he probably got others.



Can't fully understand you, "have one form for track" and those, please use a better translater or use one (Sorry (A))
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woah it magically zapped to my comp :S

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Sir PM me if you want this layout xD
 
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I trust bilmattan. Never has he ever even tried to get out of paying for my services. Not even once. He even pays upfront sometimes.

I might be a tad off topic, but I'm giving my point of perspective concerning bilmattan & payments.
 
I've worked sometime ago under Newline project (maybe someone knows). I was webmaster. Site was cool as for those times. Multilang, completly restyled Gesior and a lot of new functions and scripts. But server failed. After some time i have been informed by someone that i've lost more than 10000PLN (something about 3508$). Why? Owner of server was started to selling this website without of my permission (i was at 50% owner). This is the main reason why i was stopped to work in Open Tibia for almost one year. Now i don't trust anyone... But about Bilmattan i have nothing bad to say at this time. He bought template from me and there is everything ok.
 
bilmattan said:
@Topic.

I will write a long story short :
I managed ForgottenLs PayPal and website. I spent many hours of fixing it etc, I wasn't going to get paid and I knew that, but I still did it for fun + Omar was my friend.

I gave Omar access to my PayPal account, but when he tried to pay it got limited because unauctorized access. I had really a hard time to unlock this account (took a month or so), but finally when It was done I was going to withdraw the money, but couldn't.. Got limited once again. So me and Omar got intro a "fight", and got foes. After a day I told him that I could pay it, but he said "I don't care about money, I care about what you done etc..."

And about the thing on latestnews, yes! I did it, if you would fuck me, as you did.

Did I used it to destory your server? No I didn't, I could erased your whole database etc, but didn't.

Edit :
It was around 700 USD, not 1200.



I stole shit from him? I copied he's agreements without permission, and after he told me that he got mad about it I contacted him and it was no problem.

Get facts before you write OZKL.
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Okay, lets see the lies, first of all we never got into a fight, he told me I got a great news one day and said "paypal is unlocked blabla" i said great, so then when i was in school, Risha (my real) whos a staff in forgottenl called me and said bilmattan has been ONLINE making donations from people by paypal, so i felt something fishy, so he DELETED ME, blabla, so i went back home, i couldnt know how he did it, i acted as if nothing happend, he acted cool and as if he knows nothing, then suddenly he said "TRAITOR" and stuff, (because i demoted him when i discovered the page he did to add points..etc) i told him why u did it he said it was a backup (he was using this "backup" on the server he added about 9999999 points to charachters but thank god, with his ip , i removed 9 of his characters, he had 50 ADMIN ACCOUNTS, and he fucked the server, but thank god the backup fixed everything, i begged him for a 100$ to pay my dedicated :( but he just stole over 1200$ also (i forgot that he went in forgottenl collecting donations before he gets demoted :() so he have about 1300-1400$ now, he coudlnt even give me a 100$ he wanted the forgottenl to just get fucked up for no damn reason, I TRUSTED YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE.

AND it wasnt around 700USD, it was exactly 1207USD exactly, (thats the latest i saw) before you get in and fucking collect donations before i discover the fuck up you did.
 
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