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Why is there no good open tibia servers lately?
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Brad
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Most custom servers go down in flames because 90% of the tibia community is stupid as hell. (I admit i do run a real server, but mainly because custom shit gets shot down to quickly)
"ZOMG IDK WHERE I AM, -Rage Quits-" Tibia lost its Rpgness along time ago..
You see a grave. You read: Here lies the RPG-part of this game. We will miss you!
"ZOMG IDK WHERE I AM, -Rage Quits-" Tibia lost its Rpgness along time ago..
You see a grave. You read: Here lies the RPG-part of this game. We will miss you!
Somebody makes a fun looking ot, nerds who are jealous pay 100$ or more on DDoS to bring it down.
Another problem is that, 2 or 3 years ago, there weren't as many ots, so they players were around the same Ots, now theres shettons of ot's with like 20 ~ 50 ppl, and barely any ots with over 150..
Another problem is that, 2 or 3 years ago, there weren't as many ots, so they players were around the same Ots, now theres shettons of ot's with like 20 ~ 50 ppl, and barely any ots with over 150..
Ceejzor
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I miss the days when there was only a handful of OT's 
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I miss the days when there was only a handful of OT's
And what's a good OT for you?
with wich features?
Ceejzor
Murica Born N Raised!
Back then I liked Brabexia haha! don't know if you will know it. Back then everything was custom it was all new to your eye's you was easily amazed.. I remember friend tricking me that he got mpa,glegs,etc.. but in the end it was a OT! that's how I was introduced so many years ago!
But since higher quality server's have been put out over year's it's hard to say I would go back to it..
basically it's same as saying I miss super nintendo! but your so use to ps3,pc,xbox360 I doubt your gonna spend many hour's repeating super mario :S
But since higher quality server's have been put out over year's it's hard to say I would go back to it..
basically it's same as saying I miss super nintendo! but your so use to ps3,pc,xbox360 I doubt your gonna spend many hour's repeating super mario :S
The good OT servers die off because of many reasons. I owned a server (Frozenhell), and looking back, many things led to its downfall. The most notorious reason however, was corruption. Lets go slightly off-topic..[skip the green if you just want the point]
Ultimately, my server closed down because near the end, my Paypal looked like I had just purchased a car. It had gone negative a couple grand (from +$700~) from a magnitude of consecutive and planned chargebacks from numerous people. My Google Checkout account met the same fate, and I was not able to win any of these cases because of how it happened. Paypal and Google would simply look at my Case History, and automatically assume that I was a scam and that these people that successfully nuked my account were my victims. I'm sure there probably aren't many with my story, but that is the reason there is one less decent server.
That was only the tip of the iceberg, however. It had began its decline months earlier, when one of my so-called friends and staff members, Jason--whom I met online, decided to release the data directory. Apparently I wasn't giving him enough of the profits. That server was never made for profit, and as such, didn't profit quite as much as he thought. There were donor items and private spawns, but most people traded internally once they owned them. You could say this was my own fault for allowing a virtual friend that much access, but I lacked the time to accomplish the tasks that needed to be done by myself. "Great fucking idea, lets support the lazy greedy worthless server owners who just want to put up a Frozenhell clone and fatten their wallets."
At that point, I gave up as Administrator and handed the reigns to my second-in-command, Lessaire. As far as I know he didn't do any direct damage to the server, except for the fact that people tended to dislike him. I know, because they told me, and threatened me to quit if I didn't oust him, which I didn't. Tough luck, right? Lessaires goal and only interest was (and probably still is..) maximum efficiency. He would spend countless hours revising every line of code that server had, as well as maintaining and tuning the performance of the dedicated. Amazingly useful to me, no use to the community. They did not care about his behind the scenes work. They just wanted a flashy frontman and weekly updates.
The server slowly went downhill from there. I wasn't around to ensure my projects safety, and because of that, it died. You can't trust anyone but yourself over the internet. No matter how pure of heart you think someone is, they are not going to have your best interests at heart 100% of the time. Sooner of later they will mess up. Greed is a worldwide plague.
The moral of the story is this: In my opinion, people kill the good servers. Whether its corruption on the staff or a bunch of cheating douche bags. One thing is for sure. The key to a good custom OT, is a good staff and a good community. They go hand in hand, you can't have one without the other. Unless you play on a real-map server, where staff interaction can sometimes be non-existant, which is quite possibly why they are more successful.
Let this be a lesson to any future server owners. First, if you plan to succeed, minimize your need for outsourcing your staff. Second, if you plan to make money from your server, don't be a lazy ass. Invest your time, because time equals money. In the beginning of my server I knew this. When I became ignorant and forgot, my server went spiraling down. Finally, a server created for the sole reason of earning a paycheck will never last. Then it becomes a job, responsibility, and a duty. If your eyes aren't constantly blinded by dollar signs, you will get much further. The money is just an added reward.
Ultimately, my server closed down because near the end, my Paypal looked like I had just purchased a car. It had gone negative a couple grand (from +$700~) from a magnitude of consecutive and planned chargebacks from numerous people. My Google Checkout account met the same fate, and I was not able to win any of these cases because of how it happened. Paypal and Google would simply look at my Case History, and automatically assume that I was a scam and that these people that successfully nuked my account were my victims. I'm sure there probably aren't many with my story, but that is the reason there is one less decent server.
That was only the tip of the iceberg, however. It had began its decline months earlier, when one of my so-called friends and staff members, Jason--whom I met online, decided to release the data directory. Apparently I wasn't giving him enough of the profits. That server was never made for profit, and as such, didn't profit quite as much as he thought. There were donor items and private spawns, but most people traded internally once they owned them. You could say this was my own fault for allowing a virtual friend that much access, but I lacked the time to accomplish the tasks that needed to be done by myself. "Great fucking idea, lets support the lazy greedy worthless server owners who just want to put up a Frozenhell clone and fatten their wallets."
At that point, I gave up as Administrator and handed the reigns to my second-in-command, Lessaire. As far as I know he didn't do any direct damage to the server, except for the fact that people tended to dislike him. I know, because they told me, and threatened me to quit if I didn't oust him, which I didn't. Tough luck, right? Lessaires goal and only interest was (and probably still is..) maximum efficiency. He would spend countless hours revising every line of code that server had, as well as maintaining and tuning the performance of the dedicated. Amazingly useful to me, no use to the community. They did not care about his behind the scenes work. They just wanted a flashy frontman and weekly updates.
The server slowly went downhill from there. I wasn't around to ensure my projects safety, and because of that, it died. You can't trust anyone but yourself over the internet. No matter how pure of heart you think someone is, they are not going to have your best interests at heart 100% of the time. Sooner of later they will mess up. Greed is a worldwide plague.
The moral of the story is this: In my opinion, people kill the good servers. Whether its corruption on the staff or a bunch of cheating douche bags. One thing is for sure. The key to a good custom OT, is a good staff and a good community. They go hand in hand, you can't have one without the other. Unless you play on a real-map server, where staff interaction can sometimes be non-existant, which is quite possibly why they are more successful.
Let this be a lesson to any future server owners. First, if you plan to succeed, minimize your need for outsourcing your staff. Second, if you plan to make money from your server, don't be a lazy ass. Invest your time, because time equals money. In the beginning of my server I knew this. When I became ignorant and forgot, my server went spiraling down. Finally, a server created for the sole reason of earning a paycheck will never last. Then it becomes a job, responsibility, and a duty. If your eyes aren't constantly blinded by dollar signs, you will get much further. The money is just an added reward.
I used to play these evolutions like back 3-4 years ago, 7.9 evolutions with trainers < of depot and a little platform with tps to hunts ^ of dp, i remember it was one of the first OT's i really liked.
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Tbh trainers and !aol have ruined most servers.
All most players seem to do is stay in trainers forever.. WTF is the point..
Guy 1: "wow dude, your sword level is 120! Gz!"
Guy 2: "yh i'm top of sword on 15 servers"
Guy 1: "Really!? You must pwn everyone"
Guy 2: "no, i never leave the trainers.."
EVERYONE ON SERVER: "dude.. WTF.."
And because of !aol, pvp somehow has suffered since people don't get any reward other than the odd occassion where aol is forgotten..
My advice; if you make an rpg server, make aol a quest to receive the talkaction then allow !aol but kinda long and/or hard.
And forget trainers if someone wants skills they can do it the original way and pay someone to summon monks or gozzlers..
STOP MAKING SHORTCUTS FOR PLAYERS, THEN THEY WILL PLAY FOR LONGER
Also actually be online, have staff /goto "player every now an then and check if they are botting, its takes like 5 seconds a player, and ok if you have like 50 players+ then may take ages but get other staff to do random checks you dont have to do all, but atleast your doing something to prevent it
All most players seem to do is stay in trainers forever.. WTF is the point..
Guy 1: "wow dude, your sword level is 120! Gz!"
Guy 2: "yh i'm top of sword on 15 servers"
Guy 1: "Really!? You must pwn everyone"
Guy 2: "no, i never leave the trainers.."
EVERYONE ON SERVER: "dude.. WTF.."
And because of !aol, pvp somehow has suffered since people don't get any reward other than the odd occassion where aol is forgotten..
My advice; if you make an rpg server, make aol a quest to receive the talkaction then allow !aol but kinda long and/or hard.
And forget trainers if someone wants skills they can do it the original way and pay someone to summon monks or gozzlers..
STOP MAKING SHORTCUTS FOR PLAYERS, THEN THEY WILL PLAY FOR LONGER
Also actually be online, have staff /goto "player every now an then and check if they are botting, its takes like 5 seconds a player, and ok if you have like 50 players+ then may take ages but get other staff to do random checks you dont have to do all, but atleast your doing something to prevent it
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uhhh, i just tried 3 different ots, there all just a big bunch of fail. borin, no players, why can' you makee decent otssssssssss uhhhhhhhhhhhh im so fucking bored. -.-
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i think i might just go to sleep. -.-
dude, tibia suck! go and read a book, study something, go to extracurricular classes... DO SOMETHING!!!
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I hate studying. i learn more from discovery channel
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I thought you were going to start on mine at 30th of march... It's exactly what you want to play mate!
