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OtLand Introducing Support Team group

Hello Dear Otlanders!

Not long from the last announcement, I have some piece of information that you might find interesting!

It is my pleasure to introduce Support Team group to Otland.

1. What is it?
Support Team is a new group of members on Otland, just like Administrators, Community Managers, Global Moderators and so on.

It consists of skilled members who have been around here on our forum for a while and feel comfortable providing in-depth, technical support to all community members on the Support Board, write tutorials and guides for newcomers as well as advanced users and perform other tasks in order to share the knowledge about OpenTibia in our community.

Support Team members serve as a close link between regular members and the Staff (if we weren't close enough) and are also a role models for the OT community. Comparing to the Tibia world, we may call them Tutors.

2. What are the duties of Support Team members?
As mentioned before, primary duties of Support Team members is to provide high-quality answers for any OT-related problems that members have on the Support Board. The goal is to not miss a single thread and solve every problem. It will be difficult in some cases, so we at least aim to provide hints and guidance. This support is not a free slavery service, though. The Support Team members are equipped with moderation permissions on the Support Board to keep it clean and organized. They also work to maintain the history of solved threads by marking them appropriately and making the information reusable to other members. This leads to creation of a large FAQ collection out of solved support threads.

Alternatively or in addition to the above, Support Team members might work on tutorials and guides (basic and advanced) that go into our Articles section or can contribute to the TFS documentation (or other projects).

It is possible that they might perform other individual duties instead and those will be approved on a case-by-case basis.

3. What are the benefits of Support Team members?
Support Team members are rewarded for their hard work for the OT community. Support Team members get all the Premium benefits without donating even a cent, because we value contribution more than money.
Apart from all the Premium members perks, Support Team members receive forum-wide recognition, access to a private board where they can discuss and coordinate support-related matters, own group color and other yet-to-be-determined rewards.

4. How to apply to be a Support Team member?
You don't. Yes, there is no application process. I (or other Staff member) will appoint Support Team members myself. Members with recognizable reputation (not necessarily reputation points) will receive offer letters (private messages) from me. They will be able to accept or reject participation in this project.

After they are appointed as Support Team members, they have to keep minimum activity according to the rules (vacation periods are possible though) to maintain their status (otherwise they will be demoted). Permanent (life-long), honorary memberships might be awarded in future for extraordinary members and those do not have to maintain the minimum activity.

There are no guidelines how to obtain an offer letter, nor we publish any requirements or appointment methods. However, if you hold skills mentioned in first section and are known to the Support Board users and moderators, post politely and professionally, there is a good chance you might get an offer.

There is no limit to the number of users we can appoint. I would love to appoint all of you and give you all the benefits if you satisfy the requirements. However, there is some capacity to what we can keep control of. Don't be sad if you don't get appointed despite your hard work. We might offer you participation later or we might have missed you (probable if you are a ninja). This is why sometimes it is acceptable for other members to nominate someone for the participation in this program and such nomination will be evaluated.

5. End Notes
This week I will be preparing and evaluating standardized rules relating to expected troubles that might arise. We also need some time to tune up the technical stuff (Talaturen is very busy with work and study). I expect to start sending offer letters next week and this is probably the time when things start changing, hopefully for better. Isn't it worth helping others now?


Please post any comments, suggestions or concerns you have!
 
Seriously, there might be someone abusing it, but I really don't see the reason to get too serious about it. They're not getting paid in money, you're not losing anything really if it turns out 1 of 10 guys, who otland promoted with reasons behind, are getting lazy and just doing it for the premium. This thing is blowing up way too much now imo.
 
I have to agree, some people are reading WAY too deep into this, its as simple as this:
  • Members help other members in the Support Board
  • Members that help alot with good answers(since there are also bad answers) might get promoted and get free Donator status(I'll say this directly because it seems like this is the main cause of problems)
  • Support Team members that keep helping keep deserving their free Donator status
  • Support Team members that don't help as much or as well as we expect them to get demoted
  • Moderators check their history every other week
  • Normal members that notice inactivity or bad support from a Support Team member, report him

How is this complicated?
 
This hopefully marks a turning point in Open-Tibia :)

Question: Will the Support Team just have a regular group or will they have a specific name color and appear here
 
they will be considered part of the staff(maybe like interns? xD) and appear on the Site Leaders page, along with an unique color to identify them
 
This hopefully marks a turning point in Open-Tibia :)

Question: Will the Support Team just have a regular group or will they have a specific name color and appear here

Cmon bro this has been answered like a trillion times and even a few pages back like 5 pages discussion color.. lols
 
You shouldn't worry about the abuse possibilities. The exact amount of posts needed to maintain the status or any other criteria used to decide whether to keep or kick the person will not be published, only general guidelines will.

With the help of global moderators I will be able to monitor they work on a week by week basis, don't you worry about that.
It won't be too easy for people to earn the status in the first place, so after all the work they put into achieving it, they won't risk losing it with inactivity which will almost forfeit their future possibility of getting appointed again. The only way for them to quit in a good standing is to dismiss themselves.
 
Wow. So I can just keep on doing what I do anyway, but get recognition by way of elevated group, and reward by way of something that would merely be, for me, an existential benefit? (I didn't even use the SVN for like the last 4 of the 6 months last time I had it)

Sounds intriguing. Mainly so I can update the apt-fast.sh release I made in the premmy board. Lol.

But pitted against me, I have a tendency to come across abrasive, and I'm loathe to spend too much time helping problems whose complications are exaggerated by the inquisitor's platform being Windows. But I do pride myself on seeing things through till completion, and providing extensive technical details.

But then again, having such a title would put such activity in the realm of 'expected/required' and perhaps could give it that 'chore' feeling which could diminish the enjoyment, as I have as I'm doing now freely.

Still intriguing.
 
Seriously, there might be someone abusing it, but I really don't see the reason to get too serious about it. They're not getting paid in money, you're not losing anything really if it turns out 1 of 10 guys, who otland promoted with reasons behind, are getting lazy and just doing it for the premium. This thing is blowing up way too much now imo.

How CAN it be abused? I really don't understand why this whole abuse-discussion is still going. Everyone is manually selected and I guess you can easily see who is "worth it" and who is "not".
 
3 months premmy is $9.


Truly, the talk of abuse should be rapidly dropped from the discussion, given how anyone even putting a moderate amount of time and effort into this has invested value easily eclipsing the monetary standard set for the premium privileges.

Development isn't easy. Neither is Tech Support.

I highly doubt, especially with the other forum's recent death, that the administration of this site is going to idly pander to corruption and reward those who apply no effort towards their end of the contract.
 
the Support Team idea is directed towards the Support Board, so that's what we'll be looking at when choosing people to invite
That's just stupid because, as I stated before, this disadvantages mappers massively...
Moving the mapping support thread is a step forward but still most mapping questions are asked in the mapping board itself.

Only looking at the support board is kinda stupid tbh
 
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A support board per topic should be a huge improvement. Easiest way also to categorize Support Team members to the place they have to most part of knowledge for.

A lot of people her got huge knowledge in most subject within Open Tibia.
The only thing i am missing is C++ and Advanced LUA/SQL :/ I know for a fact that there are some ppl out there who can help on all the subjects, those are the ones who is going to get the support position
 
That's just stupid because, as I stated before, this disadvantages mappers massively...
Moving the mapping support thread is a step forward but still most mapping questions are asked in the mapping board itself.

Only looking at the support board is kinda stupid tbh

The mapping board, (I think you mean Mapping Showoff) is not really the place to ask technical questions like those about the usage of a Map-editor or installing them etc, etc, it's more to showoff and get some feedback. Such question should be posted in the support board and if these question are posted in the mapping showoff, then it should be moved. Random mapping design questions such as "Which borders looks the best for an mountain with rocks" belongs in the mapping support thread which can be found in both support board and a redirect from mapping showoff. Also if somebody showoffs his mapping pieces then he can ask for feedback and that feedback is more appropriate to be in the mapping showoff forum inside the showoff thread of that person receiving feedback than in the support board + most experts in mapping are frequently viewing the showoff forum.
 
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like Xenios said, the Mapping Support Thread is in the Support section, that's where questions regarding mapping should be made
 
like Xenios said, the Mapping Support Thread is in the Support section, that's where questions regarding mapping should be made

Then we should be breaking down the support page into sub-groups depending on what category it is. I mean you also need computer help (mostly it's posted in PC area) and etc. etc.
 
there are already tags for that:
  • Compiling
  • Linux
  • Lua
  • Windows

The only one missing there is Mapping, and I don't really see mapping needing its own tag, most questions you'd ask regarding mapping are subjective(i.e. whats the best border for X, ...), so I think that a thread is good enough
 
How CAN it be abused? I really don't understand why this whole abuse-discussion is still going. Everyone is manually selected and I guess you can easily see who is "worth it" and who is "not".
I'm going by the definition in this thread: helping to get promoted and then quit helping once promoted.
 
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