Ek & rp <-vs-> ms & ed

[m1r]

Dear Shadowcrew,

in this topic I would like to put the physical and magical strenghts of shadowcores up for discussions. As some people might have recognized, many of royal paladins and elite knights who leveled their char up to 200~~ level were forced to create a new character (ms or ed). You can read people's complaints regularly, because ms's and ed's damage is indeed overpowered. The questions has to be asked here whether the mlvl skill rate is to high or physical damage is just to low in general. Also we must not forget to take in consideration that ms's and ed's speed is quite higher than by eks and rps, so if rps or eks get in confrontation with a couple of low ms/ed with high mlvl with full bps of sds and set combo leader, don't even have a chance to run away.

I look forward to your participation below,

 

[Carchicolo]

Ms and ed hit harder with spells, but ek and rp has more life , so its okey...

 

[13TM_SNuff]

rp/ek are much better than mages.
Also, Mage's cannot kill easily 250 rp~ with bunch of ssa's on it.

 

[Calar Joker]

Kidding me?
MS ue = 500-800 (With good mlvl)
ED ue = 400-700 (With good mlvl)
RP Gran con+Infernal Bolts = 600-800 Not always tho but u can use it more often than a ue spell (With good Skills)
EK Axe+Gran ico =400-600 (With Good Skills)

Idk what ur talking about voc here are balanced rly rly good (Its just the mlvl thingy isnt correct)

 

[m1r]

@Carchicolo

Ofc and indeed, they got more life. This is exactly what I'm talking about. First of all I tried many times to kill botting ms/ed with my 200~~ rp without success. I followed him 1h~~ and had him on target all the time, he was barelly drinking pots, I mean it's kind of funny. Rps and Eks have more life, but there is no use when mages are overpowered, since you can't even heal yourself that fast.

@Calar Joker

you'll never damage a player so bad, even if you got a good distance. Also infernal bolts are expensive and mages have only to purchase pots and sds(or doind by theirselves+training mlvl lol). What about raising the attack of inchanted spears, so rps can train their mlvl too?

 

[13TM_SNuff]

Mage's aren't overpowered. You will see that when you come to open battle, when Level 270 rp stand infront while you guys triyin to kill it.

 

[Flandiezor]

Dude, Elite Knights wasnt made to be a damage-class right? They were made to be tanks/blockers right?

Mages were made to deal a big amount of damage so why the fuck are you complaining? You want EKs to hit 800 24/7? Dude you would have a full server of EKs... Use your fucking brain please, Elite Knights main purpose = Block/tank/love to take damage/loves taking it in the ass/or what the fuck you want to call it.
Mages = Want to fuck bitches in the ass/use a dildo in some virgins ass/fuck bitches, get frags/blablalba

Best player OT
Flandie.

 

[Moj mistrz]

Kidding me?
MS ue = 500-800 (With good mlvl)
ED ue = 400-700 (With good mlvl)
RP Gran con+Infernal Bolts = 600-800 Not always tho but u can use it more often than a ue spell (With good Skills)
EK Axe+Gran ico =400-600 (With Good Skills)

Idk what ur talking about voc here are balanced rly rly good (Its just the mlvl thingy isnt correct)

Are you talking about damages Player versus Monster? or Player versus Player? Seriously, if you talking about PvP, I never hitted a mage even without eq for about 800 LOL(not including utito tempo san which used makes ur pally die so fast.. and 'exori gran con' hits like 150 max.), even with utito my max. hit wasn't even 700, but mage can hit for about 700 with mas flam/frigo without any problem... So there is no balance at all, but I don't care, I like my paladin they way he is.

 

[Calar Joker]

Thats why u got 4 vocations instead of 1.
2 voc's have low ammount of hp but hit harder
rp hits has semi hits and semi ammount of hp
and ek is the same as rp but with bigger ammount of hp.

 

[Artpop]

Are you talking about damages Player versus Monster? or Player versus Player? Seriously, if you talking about PvP, I never hitted a mage even without eq for about 800 LOL(not including utito tempo san which used makes ur pally die so fast.. and 'exori gran con' hits like 150 max.), even with utito my max. hit wasn't even 700, but mage can hit for about 700 with mas flam/frigo without any problem... So there is no balance at all, but I don't care, I like my paladin they way he is.

I was thinking the same.

 

[deloria]

My best combo was 973 with weapon (axe) + ring + utito tempo on a 188 ED, i almost killed him ;]]]

 

[m1r]

Are you talking about damages Player versus Monster? or Player versus Player? Seriously, if you talking about PvP, I never hitted a mage even without eq for about 800 LOL(not including utito tempo san which used makes ur pally die so fast.. and 'exori gran con' hits like 150 max.), even with utito my max. hit wasn't even 700, but mage can hit for about 700 with mas flam/frigo without any problem... So there is no balance at all, but I don't care, I like my paladin they way he is.

I agree with this.

 

[sparticus]

I disagree about the ms/ed ue. I hit from 300-600+ with mas frigo with my druid. 500-800 with mas flam. The difference is huge, out of all times i hit twice as much with ms with ue than my ed. The other thing is rp's should hit with utito like ek's hit with utito. Rp's do very good pvm damage, but their combo never got me to yellow on 200 mage.

 

[m1r]

@Up

Yes! Also I noticed that's hard to find an experienced druid, when you recruit people for any hard quests, as they switch to ms mostly.

 

[arturinoo]

Well, if you are a 150 druid you have 850 hp wich means that a combo ue will take you down, my knight lvl 100 resist more than 2 simultaneous ue so maybe knights don't make amazing damage but they can't be headshoted