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Why no one can map a proper Pokemon server?

Vizzle

Vizzle

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Hello, im just curious about something simple.
Why the hell no one did map a proper Pokemon server? I don't mean to recreate the actual map of Kanto and all that.
I mean, why noone created a map that follows the stetic of the gba maps?
Nintendo cant sue you because that since, the map is not copied from any game you only used the idea of how is made.
Since Tibia is 2D it could be really nice to play a server like that, and it wouldnt be that hard to make it, In my opinion I think that all this Sandbox shit doesnt really work well with pokemon, without a story line there is no point.
I mean something like that.
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Im just curious why no one did it before.
 
I think its because PO is a really nice adaptation, and nobody wants to do that, its a great idea, but just nobody got the spirit to start a new proyect with that
 
Why bother? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you'll get shit on by nintendo either way, they have the copyrights to the whole pokemon franchise and stuff... Even if you made a custom map, you're still using their characters (pokemons), sprites and whatnot.
 
Raiden said:
I think its because PO is a really nice adaptation, and nobody wants to do that, its a great idea, but just nobody got the spirit to start a new proyect with that
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I will do it, and I will post the map freely.

Shadowsong said:
Why bother? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you'll get shit on by nintendo either way, they have the copyrights to the whole pokemon franchise and stuff... Even if you made a custom map, you're still using their characters (pokemons), sprites and whatnot.
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You won't, you can only get sue by Nintendo if you use their sprites, names, music, etc. but if you map something yours, you cant get touched at all, its same dangerous if you use any map than if you make one based on the games.
You will only get in trouble if you recreate a map from the games, for example if you recreate Kanto.
 
Maybe because it's a pain to customize even the ground and tree tiles
 
Vizzle said:
I will do it, and I will post the map freely.



You won't, you can only get sue by Nintendo if you use their sprites, names, music, etc. but if you map something yours, you cant get touched at all, its same dangerous if you use any map than if you make one based on the games.
You will only get in trouble if you recreate a map from the games, for example if you recreate Kanto.
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Yeah I'm aware, but I mean, you can't use their map sprites either. Could be done with tibia's sprites tho. And on top of it all, the pokemons themselves -
No matter if you create your own pokemon sprites, they are still nintendo's copyrighted characters. I think that could get you in trouble, but oh well, I'm not really sure about how all the legal stuff works.
 
cbrm said:
Maybe because it's a pain to customize even the ground and tree tiles
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You can use Nintendo's sprites if you announce that they belong to Nintendo and you dont make profit with it.

Shadowsong said:
Yeah I'm aware, but I mean, you can't use their map sprites either. Could be done with tibia's sprites tho. And on top of it all, the pokemons themselves -
No matter if you create your own pokemon sprites, they are still nintendo's copyrighted characters. I think that could get you in trouble, but oh well, I'm not really sure about how all the legal stuff works.
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You will only get in trouble if you make profit from it.
You have to realize that there are lots of Pokemon Ots out there and they don't get sue, if they start seeing that it dosnt matter if you make a similar map as the gba and a normal map people will start making Ots with self stories like the gba games.
Thats what I want.

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If I basically make the map and post it in forums and all that, it wont get me in trouble, the problem would be for the people who use to map in order to just get money and not giving credit to Nintendo.

let me make it clear: I dont do those things to make profit.
 
Vizzle said:
I will do it, and I will post the map freely.



You won't, you can only get sue by Nintendo if you use their sprites, names, music, etc. but if you map something yours, you cant get touched at all, its same dangerous if you use any map than if you make one based on the games.
You will only get in trouble if you recreate a map from the games, for example if you recreate Kanto.
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Not at all, PO get troubles because their game was named "POKEMON ONLINE", nintendo just want them to stop using their name, thats why they change it to "pokexgames", because that not have the word "pokemon", but they are still using their sprites and also making all kanto map just like the serie
 
Raiden said:
Not at all, PO get troubles because their game was named "POKEMON ONLINE", nintendo just want them to stop using their name, thats why they change it to "pokexgames", because that not have the word "pokemon", but they are still using their sprites and also making all kanto map just like the serie
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Not really, the true was that when Pokemon online was lunched they didn't gave any credit to Nintendo, and they were getting sll the profit, then Nintendo sue'd them and they haad to give a percentage of their profit or close, they had to choose so ''they closed'' (they only changed the name so Nintendo wouldnt find out''.
 
nazor.oldera said:
guys check out www.pokemmo.com, it uses the actual GBA rom and alters it so you can play online :- )
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I play there, thats what I mean, did you saw how many players does it has? every 2 steps you find a player, is insane, Imagine an Otserv like that. Its possible.
also this map is the same as the one in Pokemon Fire Red.
It doesnt get sue by Nintendo because as you can see in the website, it gives the credits and also it uses a rom, that they don't give you the way to find it, you have to do it by yourself.
 
nazor.oldera said:
yeah, so why not just play that instead of creating a ot that will always be subpar to pokemmo
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because the way the fight are is different, in OTservs, its about tactics, cooldowns, and all that.
in pokemmo its like the gba games, just tactic, you get bored of fights, in OTs the way you fight with pokemon is way more fun since you press hotkeys and your pokemon moves, you have to know when and where to use the moves.
thats why its unique, and I know that tibia with pokemon is better than the gba games, since its real time fights.
 
if you want 1to1 map from pokemons to tibia then expect to shit hit the fan, pokemon map is meant for single player not for multi thats one
second thing is survivalability of such ots, it's well very low only fewer survived more than one month without wipe/hack/etc
third thing is amount of idiots playing such ots too damn high.
 
dusieqq said:
if you want 1to1 map from pokemons to tibia then expect to shit hit the fan, pokemon map is meant for single player not for multi thats one
second thing is survivalability of such ots, it's well very low only fewer survived more than one month without wipe/hack/etc
third thing is amount of idiots playing such ots too damn high.
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I know is a single player map, I want it to stay like that, but just with the good thing that while you do the story you can trade pokemons, fight other trainers, sell/buy objects.
Thats what I WANT.
Also. I DONT WANT TO MAKE A SERVER LIKE THAT. i want to make a map, and post it.
A contribution. Yeah, there is still good people in the OTcommunity that doesnt seek money. Amazing, right?
heh.
 
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nazor.oldera said:
pokemmo is really competitive, i suggest you get to endgame. you can even do duo/team battles.
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I know, imagine, a whole community inside an OT, everyone trying to catch all the pokemons, competitions every week to see who are the best trainers. Whoa, everyone's dream since we were childs.
What do you mean with endgame?
Team battles would be sick.
 
You guys are ridiculous if you think Nintendo has time or willpower to sue a tiny team project lol.... Unless you have thousands upon thousands of players, or you're making hundreds of thousands of dollars, you aren't worth their time. Not to mention, almost EVERY company will contact you and tell you take take it down prior to taking harsh actions.
 
Sepekus said:
You guys are ridiculous if you think Nintendo has time or willpower to sue a tiny team project lol.... Unless you have thousands upon thousands of players, or you're making hundreds of thousands of dollars, you aren't worth their time. Not to mention, almost EVERY company will contact you and tell you take take it down prior to taking harsh actions.
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That´s what I though also but they actually sue small proyects.
Im not sure if it´s true but I heard from some people that first they contact the admins of the proyects and ask them for a big percentage of the profit something like the 90%.
 
There is no way it's the actual nintendo sueing. Their corporation has a net worth of $14.39 BILLION dollars. You do realize that even 100% of funds recieved from these projects wouldn't even be equal to .001% of the money they make in 10 minutes of their time. They lose money just by contacting owners of "ot servers" which i can promise you, they have no idea exist ^.^
 
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