Windows Future thoughts for Huge Map performance.

[Tenzhiro]

So it has begun..

I knew from the start when developing TOME that the map will be a huge undertaking, not to even speak about the technical difficulties it comes with.
While making the map, I already took into account players game view, so I don't waste space and keep every river and whatnot very tight to minimize bloated tiles that nobody will ever see.

Now I want to understand a few things about the map in terms of data..

Currently the map is 250 MB and after filling in in the whole continent with grass, water and mountains, the MB's skyrocketed.
I do notice when eventually building on those filled tiles, it takes very less data, as in the most data amount is being added is when you fill in a blank space with a tile. Any item placed upon that tile is nihil.

My RME already takes 8GB RAM for the map, 12GB if I cache all sprites.
The TFS i'm running currently takes 7.5 GB of RAM.

I know this is very little information to work with, but has anyone had problems after making a huge map and if so what were those problems?
I want to catch them early and not want to delete or remove details in the long run.
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Eventually, because I already filled in the continent, I think the map will be 400-500MB, so double of what it is now.

 

[oen432]

Sectors for the win

 

[Sparkles]

So it has begun..

I knew from the start when developing TOME that the map will be a huge undertaking, not to even speak about the technical difficulties it comes with.
While making the map, I already took into account players game view, so I don't waste space and keep every river and whatnot very tight to minimize bloated tiles that nobody will ever see.

Now I want to understand a few things about the map in terms of data..

Currently the map is 250 MB and after filling in in the whole continent with grass, water and mountains, the MB's skyrocketed.
I do notice when eventually building on those filled tiles, it takes very less data, as in the most data amount is being added is when you fill in a blank space with a tile. Any item placed upon that tile is nihil.

My RME already takes 8GB RAM for the map, 12GB if I cache all sprites.
The TFS i'm running currently takes 7.5 GB of RAM.

I know this is very little information to work with, but has anyone had problems after making a huge map and if so what were those problems?
I want to catch them early and not want to delete or remove details in the long run.
-----------------------
Eventually, because I already filled in the continent, I think the map will be 400-500MB, so double of what it is now.

TFS is really doing a bad job of memory management, I’ve experienced this myself aswell, so many useless tile classes etc,i’d suggest moving to blacktek or atleast pull the changes from this pr:

Make Tile a Concrete Type (#81) Close #80 · Black-Tek/BlackTek-Server@41b442b

A 2D Top Down (MMORPG) Game Server, with the goal of becoming a rapid development game engine someday - Make Tile a Concrete Type (#81) Close #80 · Black-Tek/BlackTek-Server@41b442b

github.com

then

Re-arrange Tile Memory Layout (#82) · Black-Tek/BlackTek-Server@c86679f

A 2D Top Down (MMORPG) Game Server, with the goal of becoming a rapid development game engine someday - Re-arrange Tile Memory Layout (#82) · Black-Tek/BlackTek-Server@c86679f

github.com

then

Reduce 2 bytes along with previous commit · Black-Tek/BlackTek-Server@65bc4ac

A 2D Top Down (MMORPG) Game Server, with the goal of becoming a rapid development game engine someday - Reduce 2 bytes along with previous commit · Black-Tek/BlackTek-Server@65bc4ac

github.com

not sure if its plug and play with tfs though, but you can replicate it. this will save about 116 bytes~ per tile


As for the map editor, i have no clue which editor you are using but OTA RME is probably ur best bet

 

[Marko999x]

I think the map will be 400-500MB

Are u planing to put 3 rl maps which are pretty big into 1 ?

 

[Mateus Robeerto]

TFS 1.5 Nekiro is not optimized for large maps. I strongly recommend using TFS Clean 1.4.2, Gesior’s TFS 1.4.2, or Black Tek, as they offer significantly better performance. For projects such as Naruto, Pokémon, DBO, custom maps, and similar implementations, TFS 1.4.2 (1098) has consistently proven to be the most reliable choice. Migrating to any of these 1.4.2 bases—whether Gesior’s, Black Tek’s, or the official clean version—will provide a more stable and efficient foundation for your server.

 

[Marko999x]

TFS 1.5 Nekiro is not optimized for large maps.

Why you think that?

 

[Mateus Robeerto]

Why you think that?

I’ve already tried the global map and a large Baiak too... It’s lagging out of nowhere. The walk is bad, there’s too much stuff... I didn’t like it, simple as that. TFS 1.4.2 loaded really fast, the walk is super smooth, and the performance was solid. lol

 

[Marko999x]

The performance of TFS 1.5 Nekiro is exactly same as from TFS 1.4.2
The walking is just a bit bugged because it has been designed for CIP Client and not OTC
With some small changes your walking is smooth and the problem has been solved.

There are ton of people that are using Nekiro Downgrade ( Me aswell ) and we never had any really big "problem"

 

[Felipe93]

Why you think that?

because it's not

 

[Error 502]

If you problem does not occur in CipSoft client, the issue is in OTC, not in TFS.