Toxic Behavior and the Need for Rule Enforcement on Otland

[Svira]

Hello everyone,

I want to open a serious discussion about the increasing toxicity within the Otland community and the apparent lack of rule enforcement. Over the past nine days, I have conducted an in-depth analysis of a single user:

Marko999x
Joined: December 14, 2017
Messages: 3,395
Solutions Provided: 91
Reaction Score: 2,453
Location: Germany

After reviewing over 3,000 of his messages, I found that nearly 90% of them consist of off-topic comments, personal attacks, and misleading statements—often completely unrelated to the discussion at hand. More than half of his posts contain false information presented without evidence, and if my calculations are correct, at least 1,781 of his messages violate Otland’s main rules and sub-forum guidelines.

At this point, I have to ask: Does Otland still enforce its rules, or has it become a place where favoritism dictates what is allowed? Reporting violations, even with direct excerpts from the rulebook and clear justifications, seems to achieve nothing. If the rules are not being upheld, wouldn’t it be simpler to remove them altogether?

I understand that some may dismiss this as a trivial topic. However, I am deeply concerned about the state of this community. If this continues, I will seriously consider migrating to a more professionally moderated forum. I also anticipate responses such as "Haha, what an idiot!"—which would only confirm my point that the majority of remaining users seem unable to engage in constructive discussion.

I would sincerely appreciate a response from the Administration or Moderators regarding this matter.

Rules That Are No Longer Enforced:​

Trolling (General Rules, point 3)
False Information & Misinformation (Server Gala – Rules about replying to a thread)
Spamming / Repetitive Messaging (General Rules, point 2)
Off-Topic / Irrelevant Posts (General Rules, point 1)

These rules are not being respected anymore—not just in my case, but in multiple threads dating back to 2021. If enforcement is no longer a priority, then why pretend the rules exist?

I look forward to hearing thoughts from the community—and more importantly, from the Otland staff.

 

[Marko999x]

Hi ️

 

[STONARD]

ok boomer

 

[Beo]

I'll be honest bro, I don't think admins have cared about the rules or otland for over a decade.

 

[Marko999x]

You can't get warning/ban if you don't do anything wrong

 

[Adposatnr]

xDDDDD

this is otland you can get year ban for nazi content if u quote other user post and that nazi content wont be even removed from orginal post nor person who post it first will get punishment

 

[3alola1]

Hello everyone,

I want to open a serious discussion about the increasing toxicity within the Otland community and the apparent lack of rule enforcement. Over the past nine days, I have conducted an in-depth analysis of a single user:

Marko999x
Joined: December 14, 2017
Messages: 3,395
Solutions Provided: 91
Reaction Score: 2,453
Location: Germany

After reviewing over 3,000 of his messages, I found that nearly 90% of them consist of off-topic comments, personal attacks, and misleading statements—often completely unrelated to the discussion at hand. More than half of his posts contain false information presented without evidence, and if my calculations are correct, at least 1,781 of his messages violate Otland’s main rules and sub-forum guidelines.

At this point, I have to ask: Does Otland still enforce its rules, or has it become a place where favoritism dictates what is allowed? Reporting violations, even with direct excerpts from the rulebook and clear justifications, seems to achieve nothing. If the rules are not being upheld, wouldn’t it be simpler to remove them altogether?

I understand that some may dismiss this as a trivial topic. However, I am deeply concerned about the state of this community. If this continues, I will seriously consider migrating to a more professionally moderated forum. I also anticipate responses such as "Haha, what an idiot!"—which would only confirm my point that the majority of remaining users seem unable to engage in constructive discussion.

I would sincerely appreciate a response from the Administration or Moderators regarding this matter.

Rules That Are No Longer Enforced:​

Trolling (General Rules, point 3)
False Information & Misinformation (Server Gala – Rules about replying to a thread)
Spamming / Repetitive Messaging (General Rules, point 2)
Off-Topic / Irrelevant Posts (General Rules, point 1)

These rules are not being respected anymore—not just in my case, but in multiple threads dating back to 2021. If enforcement is no longer a priority, then why pretend the rules exist?

I look forward to hearing thoughts from the community—and more importantly, from the Otland staff.

TBH, after your server gala thread, I can't even take you seriously. Everything in this world has good and bad aspects, but you can't accept any criticism or suggestions.

I even asked myself why you received so much hate until I reviewed your post and saw how you treat people. Even if your server has a lot of effort put into it, you should respect any reviews from players because they are the ones playing—not you. But instead, you treat them like "shit."
What you're doing right now is just creating new drama that will only end up working against you.

 

[Svira]

TBH, after your server gala thread, I can't even take you seriously. Everything in this world has good and bad aspects, but you can't accept any criticism or suggestions.

I even asked myself why you received so much hate until I reviewed your post and saw how you treat people. Even if your server has a lot of effort put into it, you should respect any reviews from players because they are the ones playing—not you. But instead, you treat them like "shit."
What you're doing right now is just creating new drama that will only end up working against you.

I understand your perspective, and I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. However, this is exactly why I created this topic about toxic behavior.


To clarify, in the Gala server thread, I didn't insult actual players—those individuals never even visited my server. Imagine you own a beautiful red V6 classic car and take it to an exhibition. Once you arrive, people start criticizing it by saying:
"Wow, what an ugly green electric car!" or "That's not even a car, it's a bicycle!"


That's the frustration I faced—receiving harsh criticism that wasn't even based on reality.


That being said, I do accept constructive criticism. For example, when someone pointed out my mistake about demographics and my incorrect Spanish translation for Brazil, I immediately acknowledged it and did everything I could to fix it. I have no problem admitting my errors when they are valid.


However, if anyone wants to discuss my server, I kindly invite them to do so in its dedicated thread. Here, I'd prefer to focus on the broader issue of toxicity within the community—including how false narratives can lead to frustration, and yes, even toxic reactions.


I hope this makes my point clearer.
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[Tenzhiro]

You should have send this thread or your reports, privately, to the OT Staff, making a thread specifically against another person, to create drama, hate against other users, is pretty immature in my opinion.

Will not solve anything, doesn't even create a topic of discussion really since you are aiming against one person, doesn't matter if you think this is a global issue on OTLand, the moment you specify people, you are aiming against them, so don't look weird if people are now going to create drama in this thread by looking at your own threads and point you on your faults like you did on Marko.
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Also reading your server gala now, and you immediately get defensive when someone is expressing their concern about your server name (tibia.website), any person would know that this is clear trademark infringement and it will confuse consumers to the point that I think you are trying to get more players who "accidentally" go to your website.

And your response is this?


While your logo is this:
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Next to that you keep saying that people haven't played your server before giving their opinion and they really don't have to have played anything to give their opinion, they can give feedback on the things you post.

One tip I can give you for any interactions with the community in the future is to not react to reactions that you do not agree with and cannot answer in a professional way, it's as simple as thinking: it's their opinion, and be done with it.
Why throw oil on the fire under your own server thread, instead of being focussed on your server it will be focussed on the spicy comment section. Exactly what is happening now.

Look at my server name and theme, Tales of Copyright right there, but when people tell it to me, you won't see me getting defensive or angry, it's a valid concern of a person that might play your server one day, threat them with some respect even if they do not give it themselves.
Remember players are not obliged to do anything for or with you.

In any case it would've been wiser to make this thread not about one person but a global OTLand issue.
"I have conducted an in-depth analysis of a single user:" sorry but who do you think you are?
This is utmost disrespectful, tasteless and again I think this should've been sent to OTStaff as a report not open a thread to get more people going against one another. You are not OT Staff.

Same with this line "the majority of remaining users seem unable to engage in constructive discussion." but seeing your Server-Gala you are the one who cannot conduct a normal discussion if someone even mentions your server name

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Little side note, since Trademarks are often international, doesn't matter if you live in Mongolia or Russia or in Atlantis.
They can do several things, with relative ease, and will cost them almost nothing, while you have to work for it:
1. First and finest, the cease and desist letter, which will make you pay either a monthly % or have to close the server.
2. Domain Dispute or "UDRP Complaint" which will inform ICANN and the Polish registers, if your domain is confusing or in bad faith they will remove your domain.
3. If Cipsoft notices you are under European jurisdiction (I believe also in the USA), you will face legal actions, and that would have been a waste of a hobby wouldn't it? Lawsuits will take up a year of your time, and trust me if I say they have the better lawyers.
4. If you are using European payment services, they can freeze and shut down those as well, have 1 euro on there? Gone!

So just change the name, cause what you are asking for right now, even with this thread you made, is that people will report you for it, just for the sake of it. I do not think that is the publicity that you were asking for.

(also to make my point clear, this is about your actions/reactions, not about your server)

 

[Svira]

I’d like to address a few points you've made regarding the reports and moderation on the forum. Frankly, the reports and warnings don't seem to be working properly. As one user already mentioned, they received a warning for quoting, while the original message went unpunished. This inconsistency creates confusion and frustration within the community.


This post was created to avoid spamming in the Gala server thread, where the spam issue is clearly mentioned in the rules but is not being enforced. The same applies to trolling, and I think we can agree that judging content without knowledge is not acceptable. It's like judging a banana without ever tasting it—saying it’s “bad” just because it’s yellow and shaped like a boomerang. That’s not normal; it’s counterproductive. To make a fair judgment, we need to know what we're talking about first.


You also mentioned my logo, which I created myself. Just so you know, in my country, the word Tibia is not protected by copyright or patent.


As for analyzing users, I’m just a normal person trying to see if this forum is still functional or if it’s dead. From what I see, it’s become a place of cliques and the rules only apply to a select few, as is evident from the profile of the user you mentioned. I work in Psychiatry and Psychology, so I understand how to profile people.


When it comes to the global definition of certain things, if someone doesn’t understand it, it doesn't make me "stubborn" for trying to prove my point. It’s just the fact—it’s like arguing with someone who insists white is black, despite the definition of each color being clear. If someone creates their own definitions, it says more about them than it does about me.


I hope this clarifies things and sheds light on why I felt the need to create this post.

AD.
Thank you for your input, but I’d like to clarify a few points regarding the trademark issue.


I take great care in my work, and I have thoroughly checked what is available and legal before proceeding with anything. In fact, I self-reported my website to ICANN through the Bitdefender app, and it hasn’t been blocked. So, I have already taken steps to ensure that everything is legitimate.


If you take a look at other names, you’ll find many similar ones—such as RealTibia, GlobalTibia, and even TibiaTV. Clearly, the name itself is not a problem, as these examples are in use without issue.


I understand your concerns, but to reiterate—I am aware of the legalities, and I am not trying to violate anything. Also, as I mentioned before, I too can be toxic if someone truly irritates me, but I try to focus on resolving things professionally where I can.


I hope this clears up any confusion, and thank you again for bringing it up!

 

[Seba88]

my suggestion is to logout from here and touch grass irl

 

[Hbraveq]

Hello everyone,

I want to open a serious discussion about the increasing toxicity within the Otland community and the apparent lack of rule enforcement. Over the past nine days, I have conducted an in-depth analysis of a single user:

Marko999x
Joined: December 14, 2017
Messages: 3,395
Solutions Provided: 91
Reaction Score: 2,453
Location: Germany

After reviewing over 3,000 of his messages, I found that nearly 90% of them consist of off-topic comments, personal attacks, and misleading statements—often completely unrelated to the discussion at hand. More than half of his posts contain false information presented without evidence, and if my calculations are correct, at least 1,781 of his messages violate Otland’s main rules and sub-forum guidelines.

At this point, I have to ask: Does Otland still enforce its rules, or has it become a place where favoritism dictates what is allowed? Reporting violations, even with direct excerpts from the rulebook and clear justifications, seems to achieve nothing. If the rules are not being upheld, wouldn’t it be simpler to remove them altogether?

I understand that some may dismiss this as a trivial topic. However, I am deeply concerned about the state of this community. If this continues, I will seriously consider migrating to a more professionally moderated forum. I also anticipate responses such as "Haha, what an idiot!"—which would only confirm my point that the majority of remaining users seem unable to engage in constructive discussion.

I would sincerely appreciate a response from the Administration or Moderators regarding this matter.

Rules That Are No Longer Enforced:​

Trolling (General Rules, point 3)
False Information & Misinformation (Server Gala – Rules about replying to a thread)
Spamming / Repetitive Messaging (General Rules, point 2)
Off-Topic / Irrelevant Posts (General Rules, point 1)

These rules are not being respected anymore—not just in my case, but in multiple threads dating back to 2021. If enforcement is no longer a priority, then why pretend the rules exist?

I look forward to hearing thoughts from the community—and more importantly, from the Otland staff.

true talk hurts or what?
@Marko999x no worries, server owners want my ass also for truth

 

[Marko999x]

@Marko999x no worries, server owners want my ass also for truth

No wonder, you're a troll

 

[Hbraveq]

No wonder, you're a troll

why troll? xD
All I write is true talk, only if server is owned by one of moderators here or his friend, then they delete my msgs, topics without reason and doing something like blackmail xD
"behave yourself" HAH

 

[slayzer]

my suggestion is to logout from here and touch grass irl

I also recommending logging out from here. The only people left on Otland are trolls living in their moms basement. Their sole source of pleasure in life comes from talking shit to strangers on the internet.
No server is ever good enough (something they know without ever playing it somehow), and they never do anything to contribute.

 

[Hbraveq]

I also recommending logging out from here. The only people left on Otland are trolls living in their moms basement. Their sole source of pleasure in life comes from talking shit to strangers on the internet.
No server is ever good enough (something they know without ever playing it somehow), and they never do anything to contribute.

How to contribute for example on server which is called "Hard x1 long term 7.4 tibia" but you can equip ice rapier and spam exori gran 4ever on EK without losing it (totaly game breaking bug for other vocations) and GM statement is "7.4 mechanics" and any comment about fixing it, going to ban in case of "TROLLING".
How to contribute on server which is called "HARD x1 LONG TERM 7.4 TIBIA" where u can go to senja, buy scale armor for 30 gp and u can go to edron sell it for 95 gp. After public post on discord, imagine what happen? BAN XD
How to contribute on server which is called "HARD x1 LONG TERM 7.4 TIBIA" where u can just generate/clone premium points scroll (for a long weeks XD) and when you try to let everyone know about this, imagine what happen? BAN B)
When you talk about this here on forum? BAN, BECAUSE FFRIEND OF MODERATOR IS OWNER XD
So the community here. you talking about @slayzer is made mostly (90%?) by moderators and their friends
Let people talk true about s*** servers instead of banning them, maybe it would make this forum about servers not about stroking friends?

 

[slayzer]

How to contribute for example on server which is called "Hard x1 long term 7.4 tibia" but you can equip ice rapier and spam exori gran 4ever on EK without losing it (totaly game breaking bug for other vocations) and GM statement is "7.4 mechanics" and any comment about fixing it, going to ban in case of "TROLLING".
How to contribute on server which is called "HARD x1 LONG TERM 7.4 TIBIA" where u can go to senja, buy scale armor for 30 gp and u can go to edron sell it for 95 gp. After public post on discord, imagine what happen? BAN XD
How to contribute on server which is called "HARD x1 LONG TERM 7.4 TIBIA" where u can just generate/clone premium points scroll (for a long weeks XD) and when you try to let everyone know about this, imagine what happen? BAN B)
When you talk about this here on forum? BAN, BECAUSE FFRIEND OF MODERATOR IS OWNER XD
So the community here. you talking about @slayzer is made mostly (90%?) by moderators and their friends
Let people talk true about s*** servers instead of banning them, maybe it would make this forum about servers not about stroking friends?

If there were any proper moderators left then this thread would have gotten deleted a long time ago.

I think posting a thread attacking a specific individual is a violation of the rule:

6. Offensive language:
You may not post content that offends other users (such as insults, threats, racism, discrimination, or any other type of personal attack). Any personal issues you have with another user should be dealt with in private.

 

[Obito]

If there were any proper moderators left then this thread would have gotten deleted a long time ago.

I think posting a thread attacking a specific individual is a violation of the rule:

I honestly don’t know what’s up with this dude, he’s literally everywhere and his vibe is completely off It’s like his personality got lost in the glitch XD so damn weird especially his avatar pic lmao

 

[Adposatnr]

you have to insult otserverlist owner to spawn moderator on otland

 

[Hbraveq]

If there were any proper moderators left then this thread would have gotten deleted a long time ago.

I think posting a thread attacking a specific individual is a violation of the rule:

Moderator comming only when you talk negative, hurting facts about his or his friend server.. Then you get "Behave yourself, last warn" xD