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C++ Looking for a pre-7.4 engine (7.1–7.3) with OTB and OTBM maps format (not XML) – currently downgrading from AVESTA

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Hi everyone,


I’m looking for help/recommendations to get or build a pre-7.4 engine, ideally within 7.1, 7.2 or 7.3.


Key requirements​


  • Real OTB format (items.otb / OTBM map).
  • NO XML maps
    This excludes old distributions like Brabexia or any others.
  • I need a base that allows me to connect using the original clients for those versions (7.1–7.3) without having to use modified clients.

Context​


I’m currently attempting a downgrade starting from AVESTA.
The goal is to keep classic compatibility and avoid modern behaviors that break real legacy client parsing.


What I’m specifically looking for​


  • An existing distribution/engine that:
    • is truly pre-7.4,
    • uses OTB,
    • and has solid compatibility with original clients
  • Or, if someone knows:
    • old repositories, forks, backups, or
    • any guide to properly generate an OTB compatible with those versions

Any lead helps​


If anyone has:


  • a working base,
  • a repo,
  • or even just technical references / compatibility tips,

I’d really appreciate it.


Thanks in advance 🙌
 
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I dont think there is any distribution based specially on that version 7.1.. about map there is one replica 7.1 that you can use but that map uses 7.4 otbm i think, and wich map editor have support for that version? Also Avesta is really old you maybe can try to downgrade the decompiled 7.7 leaked version from @fusion32 using the real one or any other otbm downgraded 7.x tfs here on otland you will find some
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the first SQL based hosts came out until 7.4 was around.

7.1: Survival, Brabxia, Hell Server, Crazytoko. Each of those had some forks from different teams, but that is the extent of my memory in that period before 7.4.

Between 7.1 and 7.3 there was not a lot of changes to the client so a lot of old school servers just bumped the protocol on their server and players could connect to it all the same.

I hope my memory of those times helps narrow down your hunt. It's likely going to need to be a custom modern build.

Also found a thread: 7.1 ot (https://otland.net/threads/7-1-ot.16163/)
 
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You don't need 7.1 communication to create 7.1 server.
Trying to use an old engine because you want to have a retro game is one of the worst ideas a newcomer can get.
 
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Olddies said:
I dont think there is any distribution based specially on that version 7.1.. about map there is one replica 7.1 that you can use but that map uses 7.4 otbm i think, and wich map editor have support for that version? Also Avesta is really old you maybe can try to downgrade the decompiled 7.7 leaked version from @fusion32 using the real one or any other otbm downgraded 7.x tfs here on otland you will find some
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Do you think it's possible to go lower than 7.4? I really want to achieve the 7.3

I've tried to change protocol and client on the sources but no success

Do you know if 7.1-7.3 use OTB 1 or OTB 0
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El Diablo said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the first SQL based hosts came out until 7.4 was around.

7.1: Survival, Brabxia, Hell Server, Crazytoko. Each of those had some forks from different teams, but that is the extent of my memory in that period before 7.4.

Between 7.1 and 7.3 there was not a lot of changes to the client so a lot of old school servers just bumped the protocol on their server and players could connect to it all the same.

I hope my memory of those times helps narrow down your hunt. It's likely going to need to be a custom modern build.

Also found a thread: 7.1 ot (https://otland.net/threads/7-1-ot.16163/)
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Do you know if those distributions are available with their compiling sources? Would it be possible to compile with Sitian's DEV C Pack?
 
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Faerus said:
Do you think it's possible to go lower than 7.4? I really want to achieve the 7.3

I've tried to change protocol and client on the sources but no success

Do you know if 7.1-7.3 use OTB 1 or OTB 0
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You can skip check otb version on sources and create or modify the 7.4 to be exactly like the version you want, i never tried to search any of these low otbm so cant help you too much on that side
 
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My advice, do never use an old engine for any project nowadays... Learn how to use like tfs 1.4.2 10.98 downgrade and make your own 7.1 spr/otb downgraded. Its kinda easy, you just need to search how to. Then you can have any 7.1 items, maps, systems or whatever you want but with a newer engine.

*PS: Don't go with TVP.
 
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lindero33 said:
My advice, do never use an old engine to any project nowadays... Learn how to use like tfs 1.4.2 10.98 and made a spr/otb downgrade, is kinda easy just need to search how to. Then you can have any 7.1 items, maps, systems or whatever but with a new engine.

*PS: Don't go with TVP, my advice.
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Is it possible to login to a TFS server with Cipsoft client?
 
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Faerus said:
Is there any guide that explains all that from 0?
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Next time use search
Gesior.pl

Thread 'From Windows 10 to OTS development machine for dummies'

I made this tutorial on clean machine just after installing Windows 10 Pro (64bit) on 2020-02-16.
Installing everything took around 1 hour.
In this tutorial we will use Visual Studio 2019, not 2017 recommended for TFS compilation. It will work!

I used polish version of Windows and installed every possible application in polish.
I did this, to be sure, that it will work with any other language. One thing I found out is that you need English language pack in Visual Studio to install TFS libraries from vcpkg.

What do you need before start?
  • Windows 10
  • Web Browser (tutorial...
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Gesior.pl

Thread 'From Windows 10 to OTS development machine for dummies - part 2'

5. Install MariaDB, PHP and Apache2 servers

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Download newest XAMPP for Windows.

Link:Download XAMPP (https://www.apachefriends.org/download.html)

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During installation deselect components we won’t use for OTS development.

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Start Apache, MySQL and open phpMyAdmin site (database administration site).

If Apache fails to start, it’s probably because some other...
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Faerus said:
Do you think it's possible to go lower than 7.4? I really want to achieve the 7.3

I've tried to change protocol and client on the sources but no success

Do you know if 7.1-7.3 use OTB 1 or OTB 0
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Do you know if those distributions are available with their compiling sources? Would it be possible to compile with Sitian's DEV C Pack?
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You would have to search, as others have said I think the approach is better suited with taking a 1.4.2 TFS server and lowering the protocol.

The post above mine is great, and of course Gesior.pl wrote it. That fella is a wizard on these boards lmao
 
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