Of course there were Polish forces, but rather small compared to the other leading countries (USA, Russia, Britain). I'm not saying they didn't help at all.
Most countries require children to go to school pretty much by force, especially in Asia/Pacific. That's why China, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and India are the top 5 smartest countries in the world. Same with a couple countries in Europe. In USA, you have the freedom to go to school and learn or not go to school. You have the freedom to do homeschooling (country grading average doesn't depend on homeschooling). Or people don't even care about the education competition throughout the school, so they pretty much flunk the worldwide test and focus only on the ones that are required for college. Don't compare any average score between a continent (Europe) and a country (USA), that's just not right.
Actually in the us, you have to go to school until your 16. Second, you have the same freedoms in THE COUNTRIES of europe, as they are a democracy too. Again I compared THE COUNTRIES of Europe to the U.S, not the continent itself.
The two nuclear bombings did kill alot of people, which isn't right, but do you have any idea how many lives it saved?
If it wasn't for the atomic bombs Japan would never have surrendered so easily. It would have taken an American invasion of Japan. That would have cost many more lives then the atomic bombs took (on both sides). They took many innocent American lives in the attack of PH, and their treatment of American POW's was crueler then anything we ever did to them.
And you call them "innocent civilians"; did you know the Japanese army was already training their civilians to fight with sharpened bamboo poles in case of invasion?
They were even training their children to be "Sherman Carpets" which means they would be strapped with TNT and then would throw themselves under American tanks, taught to believe that they would be dying in the most honorable way possible. They were crazy fucks taught to fight until the end. This was the Japanese philosophy. In the battle of Saipan over 900 Japanese soldiers killed themselves rather than being taken as prisoners by Americans.
It's pretty evident that the atomic bombs saved more lives than they took.
We didn't know yet the extent of the terrible after-effects of a nuclear explosion which is the main reason they are so feared today.
So in my humble opinion, it was justified.
You misunderstand my point, The U.S contributed to the war A LOT, however it provided no TURNING POINTS. The axis forces would have still lost as all the ground that the U.S took back, was already taken by the Germans and they were still losing to the Russians. (Before you read this next sentence know this: I do not like Russia, especially for what they did in world war 2, and the communism and hardship, which most of you have no clue about, they brought about in eastern Europe. The Russians were protecting their land which the Germans haven't captured yet. Do you know why Stalingrad was the turning point of World War 2, it had to do with 2 things: Oil and morale. Behind Stalingrad were huge deposits of oil and natural resources which BOTH sides had A LOT to gain from possessing them. If Stalingrad fell, it would have been a huge economical defeat for Russia, but also a defeat in morale. If you're an American, imagine if Washington D.C fell in a war, you would be seriously demoralized.
I totally agree with the Americans dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
- Yes Japan attacked PH because they were running out of oil and other imports but you know why? Because the US had cut trades with them, which is why they attacked us. So yes they would have been defeated anyway...because of us.
- You tell me to do research and yet you say US did not supply the Soviets...its as simple as you are wrong, they did. Sorry, its recorded history lol. Also in a siege you kinda need supplies lmfao.
- I'm sorry if you're proud of your country, but really, they didn't make as big of a contribution as the superpowers involved, but they were volatile contributors.
- 410,000 died and most by longterm cancer, not "millions" The death toll would have been higher if Truman did not retaliate. In layman's terms, Japan started it.
- Everything I posted I researched and had general knowledge about. I don't post shit without making sure its accurate
- Pearl Harbor was not a fight, it was a surprise bombing.
I did not say the U.S did not supply the Soviets. Siege means the city is surrounded, idiot, so it would be way harder for the Americans to supply them IN THAT BATTLE, I know the Americans supplied the Soviets throughout the whole war.
Yes the U.S cut oil trade with Japan, but again, Japan was not in the European Theater, if it wouldn't have fallen because of lack of oil, it would have fallen because of Russia, Britain, or etc...
The above sentence is obviously if USA had never joined the war, or blocked oil trade.
Poland made a HUGE contribution, I suggest you research the battles and events I've listed above. Do you realize what "cracking the German enigma code" means? It means that throughout the whole war the allies knew what moves the Germans were going to make. Now can you imagine what the war would have been like if they hadn't? Poland also gathered parts of rockets v1 and v2. Monte Cassino was a huge battle, which blocked the advances of the allied troops. The American, French, and British couldn't break the defenses, but the Polish troops did.
There were millions of polish troops fighting in the war. Germany had to place over 1 million troops in Poland just to keep it under control. Could you imagine if we didn't have a resistance, or if it was very weak, or if we cooperated with them like the French? They could have placed maybe 50,000 troops in Poland and not have to worry. Then the other 950,000 would have been sent elsewhere. Maybe Stalingrad? Or to the beaches of Normandy. You don't seem to understand the importance of the battles and events I've listed in my first post in this thread.
I think that's because USA focused mostly in the pacific.
I agree, the Americans didn't do much of the bloody battles except liberating Nazi camps (notably Auschwitz). Have to also remember the deadliest/largest invasion, USA strongly impacted in the Invasion of Normandy and moved inward.
HAHAHA, please don't post here anymore, you obviously know nothing. First off, the Russians "liberated" Auswitz and Birkenau. The invasion of Normandy happened in 1944, by that time the Germans were getting their asses kicked, the Russians were already halfway through Poland, and it was obvious the Germans were gonna lose.
Before you post any bullshit, don't start smacking USA for losing the Vietnam War.
The United States never lost the war because they were bad, it was because of the American citizens protesting the government to bring the troops back home. The American's were whooping Vietnam's' asses throughout the war.
Need more info? Research it.
The question "Do you know where you would be wihtout Poland" is a radical thing to ask since you could say the same about the United States as well.
Yes, lol, there'd be no Google, no Microsoft, no lightbulb, if we never dropped atomic bombs on Japan, Japan would help Germany wipe Poland right off the map. Just gotta thank Thomas Jefferson for the Declaration of Independence.
The atomic bombs were dropped on Japan after Germany had already surrendered. Japan was never involved in the
European Theater. Yes the U.S saved the allies a lot of troops, and a lot of time fighting. However, if the U.S hadn't joined, the other allied forces(some were stronger than the U.S) would have defeated Japan.
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Obviously you've never researched the war in Vietnam. Quite the contrary, The American troops were getting their asses kicked.
