i=1

[Download]

Just had to :w00t:
I remember an episode of The Simpsons, where a mathematic geek received no attention of his fellow peers, so he shouted: PI IS EXACTLY THREE!
I just couldn't help laughing

OK, over to my recent low-leveled mathematics-discovery, regarding whether i is not equal to 1, -1 nor anything like that.

I first wrote this, to ensure I understood the principle:
9^0.5 = 3
9^0.5*9 = 3*9
27 = 27 //orly?
27^(1/3) = 3 //just to get back to start, if you care to.

Now, as an example of somewhat not so flawless thinking:
i^4 = 1
1^0.25 = i
(1^0.25)*1*1*1 = (i*1*1*1) //here's the issue
1 = i

I didn't even get here earlier, I was trapped in my own confusing thinking, though when I ended up here - I saw the flaw at once..
Edit: ok, the issue is the formula I've used here (cba to make it visual atm) - which only works for real, positive numbers.

 

[Alex MD]

What in the flanders??

 

[Hellrage]

i= letter
1=number


... Common its summer holiday no more maths please :d

Edit:
If
i=1
Then
u=0
Lol lame humor ye i admit that...

 

[Jonern]

Think about this:

2^2 = 4
Reverse:
4^0,5 = 2 but also -2 because (-2^2 = 4)

Rofl: Just wrote this and then went to read your post again and realized you've already noticed what I pointed out xD

 

[EvulMastah]

Well, my brain is too small to get it

 

[Jonern]

I just went out of high school with the best grade in math (though type) for all three years

 

[Download]

@Jonern
I've only done 9 years primary school (skipped 10th), stopped doing homework @ 5th grade, stopped focusing @ school, ended up with the second worst grades (2's) in everything except mathematics and science, where I still did not have good grades, yet I've been proposed to get myself a career within quantum physics, 70% of random Tibia players makes a first guess of me being from an English-speaking country (usually US, sometimes England or even Australia), and more~

In conclusion: I'm a living proof of success & intelligence not being equal to school-performance, which is in itself quite obvious, but still fun to point out.

PS: I'm just philosophizing; searching for formulas that's not valid for complex values, which I honestly find quite interesting, since i has a value as well (sqrt of -1, which is also "((-)^0.5) 1").

@Hellrage
if(i>u){printf("Nah, quite funny actually..");
else{printf("Yeh, lame humor..");

 

[Alex MD]

I like how you think, but what does i mean, like a variable?

 

[Download]

Unit i = Imaginary Number, which is the sqrt of -1.
There is no real number <-3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3> that can be squared to a result of a negative number, which is why they invented Imaginary Numbers, which is not a positive nor negative value, therefor not a real number.
An absurd idea, but very interesting

 

[Jonern]

I've hardly done any homework, just before tests, so all the others in my class were envying me

The world needs people like you Download, just make sure you grab the chance you have You'll love what the future will bring you.

 

[JayBeee]

Damn, download. You're making my hair curl from all this thinking.

 

[Download]

Thanks Jonern.
I rarely hear that the world needs more people like me, so I'm always surprised when someone writes it, online that is - especially after this very short impression you must have of me.
Which sort of leads me to the question: why?
Why do you think that the world needs more people like me?
Due to my understanding of mathematics and ability to philosophize?
As a matter of fact am I ethical, open-minded & friendly IRL, though these abilities are fairly never discovered over forums, since I hardly ever open up (at forums that is)..
I'm happy about your opinion, though a bit curious as well.


@Empty
Here you go

 

[Znote]

Basically, the use and understanding of the computer maths I cant understand much of, since in my country we are learning a little diffrent system, etc

" / " is " : " Not used to the computer's math symbols.


But im one of the best in my class in math. I just finished 11 years of school. Got one year, maybe two more, and i'll start jobbing.

 

[Download]

How can you get confused by something like that..?
I know for a fact that you use:
1
-
2
Which is the same as 1/2, which means 1 : 2.
It's very similar and logical, I can't say I'm able to put myself in your situation, having such issue, but OK.

So you'll start jobbing, eh?..
Not to be cruel, but that made me smile

 

[Jonern]

Meaning people that thinks differently, thinks outside of the box, thinks by them selves.

I have a little simple task for you here:
http://otland.net/showthread.php?p=59088#post59088

 

[JayBeee]

@Empty
Here you go

Hahahaha thanks Download! you saved my day! ^^

 

[Souldrainer]

i cannot be 1 because i cannot equalize into something because its imaginary, it can thus change shapes because of multiplications with itself for example:

i = sqrt(-1)
i * i = i² = -1

so saying that i = 1 its not a solution its just an expression of the complex number pairs z = a + bi
that should be z = i - 1 that is, as stated above just positions in the complex table.

so your claim that i = 1 is false and does not compute with the laws of mathematical equality and you are instead imposing that sqrt(-1) = 1 that is false : ]

 

[Download]

so your claim that i = 1 is false and does not compute with the laws of mathematical equality and you are instead imposing that sqrt(-1) = 1 that is false : ]

Get glasses, read again, edit your post.
My shallow claim was meant to provoke, to tease; a sort of sarcastic way of mimic our shallow media, who attempts to provoke the civilians by titles such as the one I use in this thread.

My second main purpose; the mathematical part of this thread, was that certain formulas does not work with negative numbers (when they become complex).
Such as my formula:
a^x=b
b^y=a
x=1/y
y=1/x

This work for positive numbers, and some negative numbers.
If they do not work for negative numbers, the result is complex.
If the formula worked for negative numbers whom becomes complex, i would be equal to 1, and that was my point, however I made, as already stated, a provoking (teasing) title, to gather attention (and to spread my message of our shallow society).
Obviously, if i were equal to 1, then 1=-1, because 1^2=1 | i^2=-1 | 1=-1 which means that also all negative and positive numbers are equal.
I mean DOH, thanks for the underestimation..

 

[Souldrainer]

Get glasses, read again, edit your post.
My shallow claim was meant to provoke, to tease; a sort of sarcastic way of mimic our shallow media, who attempts to provoke the civilians by titles such as the one I use in this thread.

So you mean that my eyesight is bad? - no its not.

My second main purpose; the mathematical part of this thread, was that certain formulas does not work with negative numbers (when they become complex).
Such as my formula:
a^x=b
b^y=a
x=1/y
y=1/x

OK, over to my recent low-leveled mathematics-discovery, regarding whether i is not equal to 1, -1 nor anything like that.

I first wrote this, to ensure I understood the principle:
9^0.5 = 3
9^0.5*9 = 3*9
27 = 27 //orly?
27^(1/3) = 3 //just to get back to start, if you care to.

Now, as an example of somewhat not so flawless thinking:
i^4 = 1
1^0.25 = i
(1^0.25)*1*1*1 = (i*1*1*1) //here's the issue
1 = i

I didn't even get here earlier, I was trapped in my own confusing thinking, though when I ended up here - I saw the flaw at once..
Edit: ok, the issue is the formula I've used here (cba to make it visual atm) - which only works for real, positive numbers.

I cannot see any referring to anything about some media in your thread main post.
You're more referring to a "discovery" that I proved wrong.

This work for positive numbers, and some negative numbers.
If they do not work for negative numbers, the result is complex.

No it does not have to be Complex if a formula cannot be used on any of the number groups, excluding the set C - R

If the formula worked for negative numbers whom becomes complex, i would be equal to 1, and that was my point, however I made, as already stated, a provoking (teasing) title, to gather attention (and to spread my message of our shallow society).

Once again you never pointed to anything else then that you've discovered something.

Obviously, if i were equal to 1, then 1=-1, because 1^2=1 | i^2=-1 | 1=-1 which means that also all negative and positive numbers are equal.
I mean DOH, thanks for the underestimation..

You cannot normalize a formula like above to work to refer to the whole number groups, you need to use set analysis, that is why I can disprove this as well.

Proving my point:

if i were equal to 1

ok

then 1=-1

You want to prove that

because 1^2=1

True

i^2=-1

1 * 1 = 1, you declared i to be equal to 1! (if you say "ops was wrong" its still wrong, however you go with it)

1=-1

Wrong.

Quoted proof:

i cannot be 1 because i cannot equalize into something because its imaginary, it can thus change shapes because of multiplications with itself for example:

i = sqrt(-1)
i * i = i² = -1

so saying that i = 1 its not a solution its just an expression of the complex number pairs z = a + bi
that should be z = i - 1 that is, as stated above just positions in the complex table.

so your claim that i = 1 is false and does not compute with the laws of mathematical equality and you are instead imposing that sqrt(-1) = 1 that is false : ]

 

[Dante]

i dont understand or i dont need to say i now i need to say 1? xD
1 dont understand or 1 dont need to say 1 now 1 need to say 1? xD