Being offended

[Zisly]

Let's discuss being offended and offending other people, intentionally and intentionally. We have all probably said something that someone turns out to be offended off, sometimes people decide to take the moral party when you for example joke about racial stereotype, you say something about Chinese people and some white guy goes "that's racist" and then continues with the "oh it's so wrong". Anyway, I have a video in mind that says it better than I could, mods, this is not to talk about videos so do not move it, we're to talk about the message of it and being offended/offending in general.

[video=youtube;9tn2EhGK5ok]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tn2EhGK5ok[/video]

What are your thoughts? is he right?

 

[Migxxx]

This image pretty much sums it up.

 

[Amusement]

Steve Hughes, he's a great comedian, love him.
Love his one about gays & straights, truely a genius xD

Yes, he's also correct.

Edit: Another person who can set it straight more than any of us would be Maddox, i don't think i can link but just search The Best Page in the Universe.
His articles/Writings or whatever are funny & accurate.

 

[Prest]

To be quite honest, if you get offended by remarks such as 'you're looking a little fat today', then you're clearly emotional. If you don't want to be fat, don't be fat, lose pounds, and brag it on your friends face. However a comment like 'you're such a fagget with that shitty ass shirt and that ugly haircut', that's another story.

 

[Amusement]

How is it another story? Calling a Fat person fat, is no different than than saying to a faggot, with a shitty ass shirt, that he's a faggot & has a shitty ass shirt :s

It's a psychological thing, if you're called a faggot when you're not a faggot, why should it matter?
If you're a faggot & you're called a faggot, then wtf does it matter?

Why should what someone say "offend" you? like steve says in his sketch, you're not going to wake up with leprosy.
But if you do so happen to wake up with leprosy am sorry

 

[Macgregor]

To be quite honest, if you get offended by remarks such as 'you're looking a little fat today', then you're clearly emotional. If you don't want to be fat, don't be fat, lose pounds, and brag it on your friends face. However a comment like 'you're such a fagget with that shitty ass shirt and that ugly haircut', that's another story.

If you don't want to be ugly, then wear another shirt and get yourself a new haircut. In all honesty, I don't understand how those two situations you're mentioning are any different

 

[Amusement]

If you don't want to be ugly, then wear another shirt and get yourself a new haircut. In all honesty, I don't understand how those two situations you're mentioning are any different

It also comes down to opinion, to some people his Pokemon shirt is shitty, i personally think a jigglypuff shirt would rock
If someone calls your shirt, a shitty ass shirt & you personally don't think it is, then what? You change it because of someone else?

 

[Zisly]

It's a psychological thing, if you're called a faggot when you're not a faggot, why should it matter?
If you're a faggot & you're called a faggot, then wtf does it matter?

Because you might not want to be portrayed as something you're not?

To be quite honest, if you get offended by remarks such as 'you're looking a little fat today', then you're clearly emotional. If you don't want to be fat, don't be fat, lose pounds, and brag it on your friends face. However a comment like 'you're such a fagget with that shitty ass shirt and that ugly haircut', that's another story.

You need a better example. Why is the first one less offensive? because it describes the negative word with in a less negative way by using "little"?

What if I said "your mother looks like a whore today" to someone? if they got got offended it means they consider her to be a whore?

 

[Amusement]

Because you might not want to be portrayed as something you're not?


You need a better example. Why is the first one less offensive? because it describes the negative word with in a less negative way by using "little"? you're sounding a little stupid today.

So what someone calls you is your forever given title?

Infact, today, on my way back from a job interview, i noticed a guy on a couch looking at me from his window, now as i was coming down the road i was watching him thinking "wtf ", then this guy shouts from inside his house "What faggot?" & in complete shame at such a pathetic human being, i shook my head in disappointment, because fuck the police.
He saw it & immediately got out of his chair & headed for the door, now at this point am sort've shitting myself because this guy is actually like triple my size (I'm not a beefed up mofo), so he comes out the door & says "ey faggot, what you shacking your head at HUH?"
(this is all true btw, it all happened today, i didn't even know the guy & never seen him in my life)

Now during & after all this, i was just thinking "wtf was his problem?" i hadn't even done anything, not "OMG he thinks am a faggot -.-'"
Why? because i know that i'm not & what this inbred calls me makes no difference to that fact at all.

You should know what & who you are, what other "Strangers" label you as should make no difference, people who label others for no other reason than to label because they themselves are insecure, are just scum.
Aslong as you have your friends & everything is a rose garden in your fairy tale, what the mean ole'monster says should not matter.

 

[Macgregor]

It also comes down to opinion, to some people his Pokemon shirt is shitty, i personally think a jigglypuff shirt would rock
If someone calls your shirt, a shitty ass shirt & you personally don't think it is, then what? You change it because of someone else?

If you're young you probably do, and since most people here are young I maintain my previous statement

 

[Amusement]

If you're young you probably do, and since most people here are young I maintain my previous statement

Blaming it on being young, imo is a lame excuse.
I blame society.

 

[Herpicus]

There is this site on the internet that I contribute to daily with a name relating to an encyclopaedia of drama. It's a wiki where great minds combine their collective knowledge. On said wiki there is an article called offended that I think you should check out if you have the ability to Google Search the information I have provided.

I cannot link you to this site as it would result in my immediate banishment.
Good luck.

 

[Zisly]

So what someone calls you is your forever given title?

No, I just mentioned one of the reasons. It's not really that simple that there's one answer, in this case I assumed it was used a bit more "seriously" than "what faggot?", like someone who goes further and really wants to portray you as a faggot. Let's take another word instead, let's say someone calls you a liar and portrays you as one when you aren't one. You might know inside that you're not one but is that what bothers you? it's what other's think and how their view of you changes when they hear this. Maybe you'll pull "you shouldn't care what they think", which is true but in the end, things have an effect, people work that way. Now talking a bit general, this might not apply at all to you.

Ok, religious example as well, let's say a lot of people say all people following Islam are all suicide bombers and kill people for looking at them. Should they get offended when their religion is portrayed that way?

Infact, today, on my way back from a job interview, i noticed a guy on a couch looking at me from his window, now as i was coming down the road i was watching him thinking "wtf ", then this guy shouts from inside his house "What faggot?" & in complete shame at such a pathetic human being, i shook my head in disappointment, because fuck the police.
He saw it & immediately got out of his chair & headed for the door, now at this point am sort've shitting myself because this guy is actually like triple my size (I'm not a beefed up mofo), so he comes out the door & says "ey faggot, what you shacking your head at HUH?"
(this is all true btw, it all happened today, i didn't even know the guy & never seen him in my life)

Now during & after all this, i was just thinking "wtf was his problem?" i hadn't even done anything, not "OMG he thinks am a faggot -.-'"
Why? because i know that i'm not & what this inbred calls me makes no difference to that fact at all.

Did you understand why he got triggered?

You should know what & who you are, what other "Strangers" label you as should make no difference, people who label others for no other reason than to label because they themselves are insecure, are just scum.
Aslong as you have your friends & everything is a rose garden in your fairy tale, what the mean ole'monster says should not matter.

Can you be offended in any way or are you talking about how you wish things were?

 

[Amusement]

No, I just mentioned one of the reasons. It's not really that simple that there's one answer, in this case I assumed it was used a bit more "seriously" than "what faggot?", like someone who goes further and really wants to portray you as a faggot. Let's take another word instead, let's say someone calls you a liar and portrays you as one when you aren't one. You might know inside that you're not one but is that what bothers you? it's what other's think and how their view of you changes when they hear this. Maybe you'll pull "you shouldn't care what they think", which is true but in the end, things have an effect, people work that way. Now talking a bit general, this might not apply at all to you.

-I don't actually believe there is such a think as a non-liar, everybody lies but i'll go with your example.
If someone did actually try to portray you as some liar, when you know you arn't it boils down to who that person is, you shouldn't be interacting with this person in the first place, ignore him move on, i truely think it's a case of dealing with it.
Sometimes some people take what others think to much to heart & this is the cause of it, society has moved into quite a gullible state (& it's harder especially when you're younger, but that's a different topic entirely) & that person who's calling you a liar, could tell his friends who will then believe him because there just as big an idiot as he is, but do all those people actually play a major part in your life?

If you're smart you will always question things & never believe anything untill it's been proven solid (In my opinion anyway), if this person tells your employer that you're a liar, i doubt your employer is going to listen to him, neither will your mother, your sister or your friends, isn't this what matters?

Ok, religious example as well, let's say a lot of people say all people following Islam are all suicide bombers and kill people for looking at them. Should they get offended when their religion is portrayed that way?

-I don't believe so, it's like a sterotype, all americans are portrayed as fat lazy people who love Mc Donalds, but are they? we all know they arn't, but people actually get offended by this.
I think it's just stupid to be offended by such nonsense, yea people are different and different things trigger peoples emotions, but i think it's just a case of learning to deal with it, because getting angry over simple things is stupid.

Did you understand why he got triggered?

-No idea, lol i think something inside the house triggered it & i was just walking past so he vented it out on me.
That's my theory anyway.

Can you be offended in any way or are you talking about how you wish things were?

-I don't personally think i can be offended no, maybe that's just my ego but i've learned to just not take life so seriously. (Which some may say is a bad thing, but who cares right? It's all about me.)
On this though, am really not here to tell anyone how to live there life, live it as you see fit, this is all just how i view things, which could change at any possible moment.

 

[GhostX]

Moral of life: Why give a shit about what people say or do if it doesn't actually harm you physically or mentally in such a way you will never recover. If it does, then you have a right to as they took something away from you. But dignity and respect are earned. Not a birth right.

 

[Zisly]

-No idea, lol i think something inside the house triggered it & i was just walking past so he vented it out on me.
That's my theory anyway.

Meant if you understand why he got his ass up, trying to figure out if you can understand why people get offended or triggered by certain words or actions. You do not need to think their emotions are rational, it's very relative and subjective, but understanding how people can react and why is what I'm wondering if you understand.

 

[Amusement]

Meant if you understand why he got his ass up, trying to figure out if you can understand why people get offended or triggered by certain words or actions, you do not need to think their emotions are rational, very relative and subjective, but understand how people can react and why.

I really have a hard time trying to word this out correctly, you're worse than an exam question.

I actually to be honest can't really answer it.
I can only share what i think, when i get offended or angry at something i've learn't to just let it go/ forget about it, like the guy who did for no reason call me out, i wasn't offended, but i was let say "angry" at him for being so stupid as to vent his own anger out on me, i looked down on him as he did with me, but i actually think my validation for being angry is more justified than his, yes the nod of my head was signaling my disapointing, which lit his bombfire but i don't think i actually understand what made him get up and rage, was it weakness?
I think we should be more in control of the situation, rather than spreading the hate, though i shouldn't have shook my head that i agree with, it just couldn't be helped in the situation.

When i was younger(not that am old or anything), i got into alot of debates/discussions about religion (Now i have no reason to as i don't really care much about the subject & just now accept the fact religion gives some people structure &/or makes them happy in the solace they were put here for a reason) & alot of religious people i talked to always got angry/offended at my disbelief & always seemed to want to convert me.
Now i was always annoyed by the fact they tried to back up there claims without any actual evidence then tried to convert me with it, but "belief" is belief.
Though i think what may have annoyed me more was that fact that people needed to glinge onto something that may actually be false, am not going to completely deny the fact that god is complete horse crap, it could all be true, but why someone can truely think something is real like that just annoys me & i think it does because i can't grasp it myself.
I also don't really understand why they were angered/offended, at my disbelief.
Though i don't actually stand up for anything on such a scale that i myself fully believe in so i don't know.

We're weird, but i do think we can become better if we just stopped being offended by simple things as insults or sterotypes we're all on the same earth & i see no reason why we shouldn't all be treated as somewhat equals, how else are we going to move forward.

Thank you my psychologist, when is our next appointment, i think this session went well. :w00t:

Edit: Well no in someways i don't think we shouldn't completely hold in our emotions/anger or whatever, i think it's better to do something productive with them, writing them down for example.
The best reference to something like that is on Maddoxs site (Now it just feels like am advertising lol), he sterotypes & in some way rips/ridicules people about certain things, that get him angry or annoying though he expresses it through words & makes quite good validations.