CipSoft is licensing out the Tibia IP to partners to host and operate 'Licensed Open Tibia Server'.

Delusion

Divine Intellect
Support Team
Joined
Feb 14, 2015
Messages
4,913
Best answers
448
Reaction score
2,523
it's legit but nothing's going to happen to custom servers
from what i understand it's basically an agreement to use cip's resources to host a server and let them take 30% of the profit from it
 
OP
69lmao420

69lmao420

Member
Joined
Sep 25, 2018
Messages
87
Best answers
0
Reaction score
32
it's legit but nothing's going to happen to custom servers
from what i understand it's basically an agreement to use cip's resources to host a server and let them take 30% of the profit from it
but for that people that had 7.72 hacked files, that they were selling for years.... didn't they suddendly lose all their powah?
 

Fresh

Quack!
Joined
Oct 21, 2009
Messages
1,569
Best answers
10
Reaction score
165
Location
Poland
And the race for experianced thieves to steal original datapacks are started!
We waiting for someone who could steal datapack :V
 

Olddies

www.tibianas.com
Joined
Nov 21, 2009
Messages
854
Best answers
5
Reaction score
156
Location
Rep.Dom
people now days only need the sources from cipsoft engine if that becomes out tibia will live again through otservs.. there will be a bunch of oldschools server customized with the real feelings
 

Azleh

Excellent OT User
Joined
Mar 2, 2009
Messages
437
Best answers
5
Reaction score
52
Location
Underworld
ChaitoSoft

And truly private servers will die (even maybe otservlist, as long they are the 1st website supporting them), if both things are truth, running an otserver will be ilegal on every kind of hosting and else xD, i see them messaging OVH or any big company to shutdown the servers
 
Last edited:

Olddies

www.tibianas.com
Joined
Nov 21, 2009
Messages
854
Best answers
5
Reaction score
156
Location
Rep.Dom
ChaitoSoft

And truly private servers will die (even maybe otservlist, as long they are the 1st website supporting them), if both things are truth, running an otserver will be ilegal on every kind of hosting and else xD, i see them messaging OVH or any big company to shutdown the servers
they wont or cant shut down otservs there are millions of hosting companys... like i said if they do that is because they are done with tibia and otserv did stole them about the 60% of the players when they go to otservlist and see 18k players and in their website you see 9k players they are like wtf we have to do any deal with otserv hosters, but there will be one madafaka guy who will stole the sources and guess what is going to happend
 

Sarah Wesker

ค∂vαηcε รүηтαx ❤
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
448
Best answers
41
Reaction score
270
Location
London
very interesting the subject, it would be good to host a server with cipsoft!
 

Azleh

Excellent OT User
Joined
Mar 2, 2009
Messages
437
Best answers
5
Reaction score
52
Location
Underworld
they wont or cant shut down otservs there are millions of hosting companys... like i said if they do that is because they are done with tibia and otserv did stole them about the 60% of the players when they go to otservlist and see 18k players and in their website you see 9k players they are like wtf we have to do any deal with otserv hosters, but there will be one madafaka guy who will stole the sources and guess what is going to happend
About 60% of the OTServers players are just botters or mcs, meanwhile Cip has seen better times since the bots doesn't exist on the official game, the medium peak is about 13000-14000 players online per day and 20.000+ during events (They are doing a lot of double exp events now)

And there could be 40M of hosting companies, but the otserver hosting base uses about 60-70% the same ones (Mainly OVH), plus calling any company to shutdown any "big" server as Aurera, Talera, with 200+ online shouldn't be hard now as long they are going to copyright everything.
 

pepsiman

---
Joined
Nov 17, 2017
Messages
101
Best answers
5
Reaction score
43
it's legit but nothing's going to happen to custom servers
from what i understand it's basically an agreement to use cip's resources to host a server and let them take 30% of the profit from it
by custom servers you mean fully customised with sprites and shit or just map & systems?
 

Delusion

Divine Intellect
Support Team
Joined
Feb 14, 2015
Messages
4,913
Best answers
448
Reaction score
2,523
by custom servers you mean fully customised with sprites and shit or just map & systems?
non rl-tibia mimicing servers
don't throw their client on website, don't use their layout (gesior), don't show screenshots using their sprites
 

e.e

Divine Intellect
Joined
Sep 16, 2016
Messages
476
Best answers
1
Reaction score
208
Kinda cool and interesting, but way too restrictive.
There's nothing "Open" after all about a server you're not allowed to modify.
In general it's really pretty sad to me to see creative developers of a fantasy game which itself is based on the mythology of The Lord of The Rings be so rigid or restrictive with their work/licensing ideas.
Egomania is a serious and dangerous disorder, as The Lord of The Rings itself has taught us.

Btw, anyone ever released sprite replacements?
We might want to use our own sprites by default in the future if this is a declaration of war, quality shouldn't be as important as long as you can kinda sorta figure out what a thing is.
 

Felipe93

Ghost Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2015
Messages
1,512
Best answers
9
Reaction score
216
Location
Chile
Kinda cool and interesting, but way too restrictive.
There's nothing "Open" after all about a server you're not allowed to modify.
In general it's really pretty sad to me to see creative developers of a fantasy game which itself is based on the mythology of The Lord of The Rings be so rigid or restrictive with their work/licensing ideas.
Egomania is a serious and dangerous disorder, as The Lord of The Rings itself has taught us.

Btw, anyone ever released sprite replacements?
We might want to use our own sprites by default in the future if this is a declaration of war, quality shouldn't be as important as long as you can kinda sorta figure out what a thing is.
OpenTibia Sprite Pack
OpenTibia - Converting Tibia maps to OpenTibia Sprite Pack
 

Gesior.pl

Mega Noob&LOL 2012
Joined
Sep 18, 2007
Messages
2,001
Best answers
19
Reaction score
971
Location
PLand
Maybe my english is not good, but as I understand, they won't share any files.

You can host YOUR OTS, as it is. Evo, rl map, whatever. As long as you use tibia client or tibia sprites (or map clone) it's copyrighted.
Until now they did not care about it. Now they expect to get 30% from every server that gets more then 500 euro income per month.

If your server is some kind of RL clone (stolen 7.7, maptracked 8.6), you can use it, but it's your problem how to get it's files.
 

Mister Budex

BudexOT.com
Joined
Jun 22, 2016
Messages
1,146
Best answers
18
Reaction score
200
Maybe my english is not good, but as I understand, they won't share any files.

You can host YOUR OTS, as it is. Evo, rl map, whatever. As long as you use tibia client or tibia sprites (or map clone) it's copyrighted.
Until now they did not care about it. Now they expect to get 30% from every server that gets more then 500 euro income per month.

If your server is some kind of RL clone (stolen 7.7, maptracked 8.6), you can use it, but it's your problem how to get it's files.
How they would know if I have more then 500 euro income monthly?
 

Gesior.pl

Mega Noob&LOL 2012
Joined
Sep 18, 2007
Messages
2,001
Best answers
19
Reaction score
971
Location
PLand
How they would know if I have more then 500 euro income monthly?
Secret Cipsoft technology: MIND CONTROL!
.. or they trust you, as you got to send them report about your income every month.
In this long PDF is also information, that you allow them to control your firm (probably someone comes to you/teamviewer, login: paypal, bank account, premium sms company).
If they find out that you lied, you will pay for work of person that controlled your firm. Work isn't cheap in Germany!

Probably they will contact/sue all popular OTSes, so they will have agreement for 30% (and control of finances) with every OTS.

EDIT:
Let's say it clear. They can do nothing with OTSes in Brazil. They have only chance to make agreement with OTSes in European Union.
 
Last edited:

Ezzz

Developer
Joined
Feb 26, 2010
Messages
1,690
Best answers
2
Reaction score
409
Location
Quito, Ecuador
I would be happy if they would just release their Map Editor and old school Tibia assets for us to work with, I would be more than happy to work with their mapping utilities, which are certainly godlike. I'm playing modern Tibia lately, and the amount of stuff they have made in the map including actions and quests is way better than what I see in OTS, with the exception of Archlight.
 

Minionen

Member
Joined
Jun 10, 2018
Messages
15
Best answers
0
Reaction score
27
Maybe my english is not good, but as I understand, they won't share any files.

You can host YOUR OTS, as it is. Evo, rl map, whatever. As long as you use tibia client or tibia sprites (or map clone) it's copyrighted.
Until now they did not care about it. Now they expect to get 30% from every server that gets more then 500 euro income per month.

If your server is some kind of RL clone (stolen 7.7, maptracked 8.6), you can use it, but it's your problem how to get it's files.
If you read page 14 of 16, you will see this "All Lincesed Material is provided 'as 'is'; and the partner may use the Lincesed Material as published by CipSoft on www.tibia.com. CipSoft has no obligation to provide partner with additional raw material, especially not from the server." I think this indicates that they are providing the lincesed material they listed on top of page 14.
 

tanii

Empire-war.com
Joined
Jan 16, 2015
Messages
381
Best answers
1
Reaction score
9
I am working on copyright department youtube, copyrights dosent work like that, they can not stop any server legally,
If they contact to ovh to stop hosting tibia server, what u think ovh owners gona tell him? Yes we stop bla bla, they will face loss of millions euros.

If they wanna shutdown all server ( they need court official documents) its not possible because they can not file case against 10000’s of server owners..

They can not shutown otservlist website in any case, because he is not hosting any tibia official content.

Under sector 303 (you can use any content less than 30%)
 
Last edited:

Gesior.pl

Mega Noob&LOL 2012
Joined
Sep 18, 2007
Messages
2,001
Best answers
19
Reaction score
971
Location
PLand
If you read page 14 of 16, you will see this "All Lincesed Material is provided 'as 'is'; and the partner may use the Lincesed Material as published by CipSoft on www.tibia.com. CipSoft has no obligation to provide partner with additional raw material, especially not from the server." I think this indicates that they are providing the lincesed material they listed on top of page 14.
From 'Schedule 1 - Licensed Material':
Server data as published on tibia.com
Did you see any material that you can use on OTS without reverse engineering?
Cipsoft has no obligation to provide partner with additional raw material, especially not from the server.
For me it says everything. You won't get map, npc or monsters. License let you reproduce their game and website mechanism.
 
Top