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Complaint about Moderator Migxxx and moderators in general.

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Dixter

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Well my first complaint is that somebody started a thread that made a joke out of the thousands that were killed in the protests in Egypt, Bahrain, Libya, etc.., and I received an infraction for defending those who were killed but the other person did not receive an infraction for starting a thread which made a joke out of thousands of dead people. My complaint is that the mods cherry pick who gets infractions and who doesn't, I get an infraction for saying moron, but somebody who makes fun of thousands of dead people doesn't get an infraction. You can't confront someone without risking an infraction for "being offensive". I think that the mods should make up their mind. Either give everybody infractions that deserve them, or stop being such panzees and giving infractions for stupid things.
 
I apologized for making a stupid post, I was stupid and didn't think about it, alright?
I didn't think it would create such a bizarro-world. I didn't curse and call anyone out offensively, I just argued aggressively.
 
I apologized for making a stupid post, I was stupid and didn't think about it, alright?
I didn't think it would create such a bizarro-world. I didn't curse and call anyone out offensively, I just argued aggressively.

I accept your apology, however my I stick by my complaint about mods. They still pick and choose which posts to give an infraction to. And they give too many infractions for stupid things.
 
Dixter, I understand your complaint, but you love to argue. I would probably bet if someone went through your profile and clicked "Find all posts by Dixter" they would find a lot of which are discriminating, offensive, or unnecessarily aggressive posts. You need to relax. I understand that his thread purpose was ridiculous but you were attacking him. I think Mig was just doing what he's suppose to as a moderator, there's no reason to punish him for such an action. He removed a thread that shouldn't have been created in the first place.
 
Dixter, I understand your complaint, but you love to argue. I would probably bet if someone went through your profile and clicked "Find all posts by Dixter" they would find a lot of which are discriminating, offensive, or unnecessarily aggressive posts. You need to relax. I understand that his thread purpose was ridiculous but you were attacking him. I think Mig was just doing what he's suppose to as a moderator, there's no reason to punish him for such an action. He removed a thread that shouldn't have been created in the first place.



I accepted his apology and that was that...that's all I needed. I still stand by my opinion on all of the moderators, Migxxx was just an example.
 
Dixter, I have found many posts in that thread where you called people 'morons' and 'assholes', though I think I could find even more.
I have also warned you some time ago when you called people generally (all posters in thread) 'fucktards'.

The conclusion is that your infraction is perfectly justified. You should evaluate your language and probably agree with me. And I agree with you on your opinion in that thread.
 
Dixter, I have found many posts in that thread where you called people 'morons' and 'assholes', though I think I could find even more.
I have also warned you some time ago when you called people generally (all posters in thread) 'fucktards'.

The conclusion is that your infraction is perfectly justified. You should evaluate your language and probably agree with me. And I agree with you on your opinion in that thread.

I am not agruing that I did not use offensive language, although I did not call anyone "fucktards", but my argument is that if I get an infraction for using "soft words" like "moron" and "idiot" then the poster should have gotten an infraction for an inapropriate post as well, however I'm not saying I want him to get one since he already apologized. My main complaint is that the moderators give infractions basically at random for the smallest things, but often ignore more serious infractions. My opinion is that if the moderators are going to be that strict then they should be strict everywhere and on everybody, if not that then they should be more leniant and I wouldn't have made this thread in the first place.
 
I am not agruing that I did not use offensive language, although I did not call anyone "fucktards", but my argument is that if I get an infraction for using "soft words" like "moron" and "idiot"
sum it up a bunch of double/triple posts and constant racist argument towards different nations.

then the poster should have gotten an infraction for an inapropriate post as well
Maybe, maybe not. The simple fact that he was able to see and accept his mistakes in a public forum makes a difference in my eyes.
Call me impartial, corrupted or whatever you'd like to call me but I refuse to act as a dictator.

however I'm not saying I want him to get one since he already apologized.
Thats exactly my point.

My main complaint is that the moderators give infractions basically at random for the smallest things
If this include my situation all I've got to say is... I cleaned a bunch of your posts and decided to post a warning so everyone would be aware of the situation. Yet, you say it was random?

but often ignore more serious infractions.
That's why I asked you via PM to enlighten me, so I can correct my judgement if it was in any way handled incorrectly.

My opinion is that if the moderators are going to be that strict then they should be strict everywhere and on everybody, if not that then they should be more leniant and I wouldn't have made this thread in the first place.
OtLand is no dictatorship, and I think the moderators can agree with me in this... your case was in no way handled strictly.

I'd like to add:
The thread was maybe inappropriate, but hey, that's no excuse to start a flame war. and by maybe I mean, that you as a person with a different ideology could had show him a different point of view peacefully, but instead you decided to go the hard way and tried to impose your ideology with insults. Two bads do not make one good.

Anyway... If my judgement offended anyone then I apologize as it wasn't my intention in any way.
 
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Sometimes infractions look random when they're not. This is when moderator comes across Nth post with minor rule violation. So you get your infraction for a bunch of posts, while someone has not posted enough to make moderator give him infraction. However, how do you know that someone didn't get infracted ?
 
Because he just said he didn't. It's the principle of the thing, that he gave me an infraction for "offensive language", while at the time of my infraction somebody was making a joke out of thousands of dead people and somehow that's a "different ideology"? Well then lets put it this way, in his "ideology" he makes fun of dead people, in my "ideology" I use "offensive language" so maybe "you as a person with a different ideology could have shown me different point of view"? Please stop trying to bullshit me, realize that I am neither stupid nor a child, so don't try all of this "different point of view" crap. Soon it'll be ok to make fun of the Holocaust and make Jewish jokes because "it's a different ideology", oh wait that's already true in the great "respectful" USA isn't it? "Otland is not a dictatorship, your case was in no way handled strictly", so giving me an infraction for saying moron is not strict? Looks like Otland is turning into a "dictatorship", whatever happened to "expressing yourself freely", hey if this guy can "express" his sick jokes of dead people, than why can't I "express" myself by calling him a moron? Like I said, either handle every violation the SAME WAY with an infraction, OR try to be more leniant and understanding. Right now you are being leniant towards some, and being strict towards others. And I've seen this happen many times.

Once again, perhaps you(Migxxx) have reading comprehension problems, I am in no way racist. I live in the USA, I go to school here, I hang out with American friends...but hey, I understand that sometimes you can't understand what you read.
 
Once again, perhaps you(Migxxx) have reading comprehension problems, I am in no way racist. I live in the USA, I go to school here, I hang out with American friends...but hey, I understand that sometimes you can't understand what you read.

You're the one being racist lol, USA isin't the only country that has school. lrn2thinkb4expressing
 
dixter i understand what you saying because i was with you, and alot of my posts got deleted. i think the reason you got an infraction was because you used inappropriate language toward somebody. while he didn't. even though he was making fun of dead people:(. i think he should get an infraction too because when the thing happen with polish airplane accident i posted "hope they had aol" and they gave me an infraction because it was no laughing matter. well, i think that wasn't either.
 
Well my first complaint is that somebody started a thread that made a joke out of the thousands that were killed in the protests in Egypt, Bahrain, Libya, etc.., and I received an infraction for defending those who were killed but the other person did not receive an infraction for starting a thread which made a joke out of thousands of dead people. My complaint is that the mods cherry pick who gets infractions and who doesn't, I get an infraction for saying moron, but somebody who makes fun of thousands of dead people doesn't get an infraction. You can't confront someone without risking an infraction for "being offensive". I think that the mods should make up their mind. Either give everybody infractions that deserve them, or stop being such panzees and giving infractions for stupid things.

Wait! I remember this and in the main topic and first post he wasn't making fun/joking of the protesters that were killed, he was joking about protest in general.
After a few that took everything way too serious he started "Not giving a f*ck" if you can remember but primarily it was not about what you state in this thread.
 
@Kanakashy at which point did I say that USA was the only country that had schools? Perhaps I misunderstood what you are saying.
@IMac I totally agree, I did use inappropriate language, however if I got an infraction then so should he, however since the mod was leniant towards him he should have been to me. I'm just saying everyone should be punished equally which IS NOT the case on otland.
@Shinmaru, he was making a joke out of the protests, in which thousands of people are dying. That is offensive and completely disrespectful. Then he proceeded to degrade and disrespect the dead even further. Is there a forum file storage in place here? Because I think it would be helpful to retrieve the original thread and see exactly what was said, because I too am starting to not remember certain details. But I do remember that he made a joke out of the protesters, and he said "if they don't like it they should just walk out of their country".
 
We're just going in circles.

The thread is deleted, Gldnbr faced his mistake at time and Dixter received an infraction for obvious reasons. I don't see the need for any further discussion.
 
If I make fun of the people on the whole world, am I making fun of all the people that die all the days.
hmm that's kinda odd.
 
I'm sorry for posting on a closed thread but I feel the need to post my opinion. I, personally, would have taken into account Gldnbr's infraction/warning record and would have acted accordingly. I am not sure if he was really sorry for his mistake or he just wanted to go around our punishment system, but an offense is an offense. He's pretty aware of the rules.
 
Moderators usually don't jump into a discussion and look who is correct and who is not. It is not our job to judge or take any sides at all. However, we read a post with otland rules in our back head, and once we find sufficient proof of an otland rule violation, we take actions upon it. When you are in a discussion, even if it is aggressive, you can state your opinion in a mature way without breaking the rules on otland. If you have forgotten the rules on otland, feel free to read them at this link: Rules

Also, if you see a thread with lots of "rule violations" and you feel that only your posts are being moderated, it is most likely because somebody have specific reported your post. Which gives it top prior moderation. Feel free to help us out, by reported every post you see which violates the rules on otland.
 
@Dixter:
I checked the deleted thread and found the same that I stated above.
 
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