How to house tiles?

[BahamutxD]

I have a doubt about house tiles - as I don't have a running server to test this maybe someone can solve me this.

Whats the correct way to create a house.

Shall the walls in red be house tiles? Will items attached to those walls (hanging) save if they are not house tiles as the wall itself is outside the house?

If the house empties for whatever reason (abandon, sell..) will items on those walls (not house tile) be removed?

If someone can solve me this I'll be very thankful ❤

Don't mind the pole (NW corner)

 

[margoh]

I think if tile doesn't belong to a house the item will disappear after a restart.

 

[Marko999x]

I think if tile doesn't belong to a house the item will disappear after a restart.

Yes it will

 

[Fablow]

You have to include all doors (including entrance), tiles, and walls. When adding your entrance door, it goes in front of the door.

 

[BahamutxD]

So you have to include both north/west walls (the ones in red)

 

[Nekiro]

Walls are not necessary, doors are though.

 

[Fablow]

Walls are not necessary, doors are though.

I have had problems on servers where tapestry's and trophy's go missing. Maybe just depends what you are using.

 

[BahamutxD]

Latest TFS - I'm working on updating the official map and saw houses like those I pictured in #1 and this been a doubt I've had for some time.

 

[Nekiro]

I have had problems on servers where tapestry's and trophy's go missing. Maybe just depends what you are using.

Good point, walls are necessary then too. Forgot about hangables.

 

[BahamutxD]

Thank you guys - it kind of makes sense, just wanted to be sure as I see many maps missing those.

 

[alxaa12]

I have a doubt about house tiles - as I don't have a running server to test this maybe someone can solve me this.

Whats the correct way to create a house.

Shall the walls in red be house tiles? Will items attached to those walls (hanging) save if they are not house tiles as the wall itself is outside the house?

If the house empties for whatever reason (abandon, sell..) will items on those walls (not house tile) be removed?

If someone can solve me this I'll be very thankful ❤

Don't mind the pole (NW corner)

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Hey, can you invite me to your ot? I want to deco houses only.. thanks

 

[pink_panther]

Walls are not necessary, doors are though.

But will it save wall hangings/tapestries, etc ?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

But will it save wall hangings/tapestries, etc ?

Nope, it won't. You have to include walls.
What's more you should also think about higher floors, you can use itemid 460 under the wall, then place the house tiles on it.

 

[BahamutxD]

Nope, it won't. You have to include walls.
What's more you should also think about higher floors, you can use itemid 460 under the wall, then place the house tiles on it.
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Sorry I don't get it. Why would you need to place item 460 below walls?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Sorry I don't get it. Why would you need to place item 460 below walls?

It's not necessary, however without it you just can't see if the the wall is within the house, or not (no color change or anything to confirm).
You may skip placing item 460, but I wouldn't recomment it since it is more likely to miss some wall(s) and not include them into the house.

Example:
left side with 460: north wall included, west wall not included - you can see it right away
right side without 460: you can't see a s**t about those walls

Of course the field is invisible in the game, it is red only in RME.

 

[Silba]

And today I have learned that it is only by sheer dumb luck and coincidence that my houses work correctly (or have appeared to) for the past 15 years.

I have never ever considered or even thought about walls being part of the house tiles so that they work with tapestry etc. I'm sure some of my house walls have been bugged over the years due to this but just by dumb luck no one used them in a way to show it. Amazing.

Thanks guys I will be hiding in a corner with my dunce hat now.

 

[BahamutxD]

It's not necessary, however without it you just can't see if the the wall is within the house, or not (no color change or anything to confirm).
You may skip placing item 460, but I wouldn't recomment it since it is more likely to miss some wall(s) and not include them into the house.

Example:
left side with 460: north wall included, west wall not included - you can see it right away
right side without 460: you can't see a s**t about those walls
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Of course the field is invisible in the game, it is red only in RME.

Oh right. I just do CTRL+W and CTRL + E to check house tiles but its good to know theres other options. Thanks.

 

[pink_panther]

And today I have learned that it is only by sheer dumb luck and coincidence that my houses work correctly (or have appeared to) for the past 15 years.

I have never ever considered or even thought about walls being part of the house tiles so that they work with tapestry etc. I'm sure some of my house walls have been bugged over the years due to this but just by dumb luck no one used them in a way to show it. Amazing.

Thanks guys I will be hiding in a corner with my dunce hat now.

Yeah, but luck, I guess, mine worked too, because I have a system that also saves items/etc to world tiles, like real tibia does, only refresh tiles will be cleaned, but as luck has it, even though towns are flagged refresh tiles, none of the walls are, they are also not all part of houses, except maybe ones i've manually edited, so they still save, but as part of the world data, not players houses... This might be a problem if people decide to leave their house without taking everything down first.