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About the new Layout on OtLand..

Naxtie

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As the title says, feel free to post your opinion about the new OtLand layout style. Personally I like the old one better, what do you think about the new layout style?:)
 
Yes please, a dark theme is always good, so much white is starting to hurt ~
 
I dont want a dark template either, just make it less white or something xD
 
I like tibia makers idea. Just maybe use a pale blue/off white/grey background. But i like it - the oritentation of the boards is kinda different - i think announcments should always be the top board. However - it's fine as in imo. I can see the split between posts but yes - it looks rudimentary. Maybe more definition - other than that i like it.
 
Maybe they can make it so the posts change colors. Like 1st post is a darker color, then the 2nd post has a lighter color, 3rd post has a darker color etc... Would be much easier to see where the post ends and their signatures ends and so on.. xD
 
when I saw it, I clicked the mouse because I thought all header was selected

maybe like this the layout will fit more to the original

[image edited just with chrome]
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I'll say which fields I edited if you want to change like the photo

Code:
#userbar {
    background-color: #1B1B1B;
    border-bottom: 1px solid #969696;
    font-size: 12px;
}

#header{
    background: #000 url('BLA BLA BLA/main-bar-gradient.png') repeat-x top;
}

#headerMover #headerProxy {
    background: #000000 url('BLA BLA BLA/main-bar-gradient.png') repeat-x top;
    height: 151px;
}

.secondaryBar {
    height: 35px;
    background-color: #1B1B1B;
    border-top: 1px solid #FCFCFC;
    border-top: 1px solid rgba(252, 252, 252, 0.42);
    border-top: 1px solid rgb(252,252,252);
    border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;
    position: absolute;
    margin-bottom: -1px;
    bottom: 0;
    width: 100%;
}

.navTabs .navTab.PopupClosed .navLink{
    color: #E0F3FF;
}

.navTabs .navTab.selected .navLink {
    font-weight: bold;
    color: #F0F0F0;
    background: #1B1B1B url('BLA BLA BLA/navigation-tab.png') repeat-x top;
    padding-bottom: 1px;
    -webkit-border-top-left-radius:4px;
    -moz-border-radius-topleft: 4px;
    -khtml-border-top-left-radius: 4px;
    border-top-left-radius: 4px;
    -webkit-border-top-right-radius:4px;
    -moz-border-radius-topright: 4px;
    -khtml-border-top-right-radius:4px;
    border-top-right-radius: 4px;
    position: relative;
}

.footer {
    border-top: 5px solid #969696;
    padding-top: 15px;
}

I didn't found the footer background color in the code, change it to #1B1B1B to fit the top header.

Regards, Tibiamakers


It's a good modification but I don't think blackish colors match the rest of the layout. If you could edit the rest to a darker style, I'd be very sexy.
 
I don't think a dark theme would be so bad though...

At least darker than this. And better borders, like between posts and signatures and post and post.
 
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I think the change from vBulletin to XenForo took place too suddenly, even if it was in response to a "security breach." There is a vBulletin 5.x, right? OTLand was using 4.x before... There should have been some form of transitional phase to get used to it for a while, eventually easing into it as the default. An announcement or something like... "Check out the new OTLand.net coming this winter season!"

Imagine if Tibia had completely done away with the standalone client and required everyone to begin using the Flash Client out of nowhere (back when it was first introduced). That is how much of an impact this change has had on some people, including myself.

It's tolerable, but not preferable.
 
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I think the change from vBulletin to XenForo took place too suddenly, even if it was in response to a "security breach." There is a vBulletin 5.x, right? OTLand was using 4.x before... There should have been some form of transitional phase to get used to it for a while, eventually easing into it as the default. An announcement or something like... "Check out the new OTLand.net coming this winter season!"

Imagine if Tibia had completely done away with the standalone client and required everyone to begin using the Flash Client out of nowhere (back when it was first introduced). That is how much of an impact this change has had on some people, including myself.

It's tolerable, but not preferable.

This, but I'm not saying I hate this forum. It's just ever since XenForo came out (with this layout) my activity has dropped, my interest in OT on this forum specifically has diminished. It seems to be a bit harder to track boards and threads, I usually relied on the New Posts sidebar back on vB. The social connection with several members have disappeared. I don't know what it is, somewhere it's becoming a very bland environment for me. Maybe I just need to adapt to it more, I've been on OTLand ever since it first opened, almost 6 years I have been with the vB, then suddenly it changed.
 
This, but I'm not saying I hate this forum. It's just ever since XenForo came out (with this layout) my activity has dropped, my interest in OT on this forum specifically has diminished. It seems to be a bit harder to track boards and threads, I usually relied on the New Posts sidebar back on vB. The social connection with several members have disappeared. I don't know what it is, somewhere it's becoming a very bland environment for me. Maybe I just need to adapt to it more, I've been on OTLand ever since it first opened, almost 6 years I have been with the vB, then suddenly it changed.

You should've seen our old MyBB with Ubuntu theme, lol.
 
Knee-jerk reaction to an already patched vulnerability in VBulletin.

The new forums are a joke. Also, I donated to have access to the SVN, not to keep the site alive... Where's the SVN?
 
Knee-jerk reaction to an already patched vulnerability in VBulletin.

The new forums are a joke. Also, I donated to have access to the SVN, not to keep the site alive... Where's the SVN?

It's no more. It's dead. You killed it when you "donated" to get access to it instead of keeping something alive.

It's also funny how people are saying that it's a patched vB vulnerability while they don't even know what kind of vulnerability it was.
 
Knee-jerk reaction to an already patched vulnerability in VBulletin.

The new forums are a joke. Also, I donated to have access to the SVN, not to keep the site alive... Where's the SVN?

Sorry you feel that way, but it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction. I don't expect anyone with your attitude to understand though, but I'll explain anyway. The decision to switch over from vBulletin to XenForo was made a very long time ago, the vBulletin vulnerability (which has not been patched, and also affects vBulletin 5, and has only been called a "potential exploit" by Internet Brands) was just too much for us to stay with something we already had planned to migrate from. The private subversion was not removed because we switched to XenForo, the idea of closing the private subversion and the marketplace were planned too. If you donated for access to the private SVN, then you can find the continued development of 0.2/1.0 on GitHub now, or maintained revisions of 0.3/0.4 in the Premium Board (e.g. http://otland.net/threads/8-6-tfs-0-3-0-3-7-r5916-v8-60.178246/). Downloading an old revision directly from the private subversion wouldn't have been a good idea.

I think the change from vBulletin to XenForo took place too suddenly, even if it was in response to a "security breach." There is a vBulletin 5.x, right? OTLand was using 4.x before... There should have been some form of transitional phase to get used to it for a while, eventually easing into it as the default. An announcement or something like... "Check out the new OTLand.net coming this winter season!"

Imagine if Tibia had completely done away with the standalone client and required everyone to begin using the Flash Client out of nowhere (back when it was first introduced). That is how much of an impact this change has had on some people, including myself.

It's tolerable, but not preferable.

I've followed the development of vBulletin 5 since early alpha and it is even worse than vBulletin 4 in many aspects, vBulletin 4 was already going in a very bad direction. For the last 4 years, nothing interesting happened vBulletin 4. The CMS was a complete mess (which is why we never made it the landing page, we just used it for articles). Features they added were basically integration of other software that Internet Brands had some kind of business agreement with, features which either costed money or had negative impact on the community (such as ads when hovering words in posts). There was no future with vBulletin.

The developers of XenForo were key developers in vBulletin 3, and part of vBulletin 4 I believe. They know exactly what they're doing, and Internet Brands who acquired the company that owns vBulletin obviously couldn't compete with them and tried to sue them. The lawsuit had a huge impact on the development of XenForo, which is one reason why we waited before switching to XenForo, because we didn't know the outcome of the lawsuit yet.

OTLand is not in the state we want it to be in right now, and I will keep improving it as I find free time to do so.
 
I've made changes to the posts style, it should be much easier to see where a post begins and ends now.
 
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