J.Dre
Unity Games
I have no interest in continuing any conversation with you after seeing your posts in this thread, you are in no position to discuss the future of this community with me. How about you start your own community and apply your philophosy there and we'll see how well that goes? I don't think you have anything but jealousy to contribute, yet you keep judging other people. At least my projects don't fail on the recruitment stage.
Sorry, I didn't see your post until after I had already replied to the thread but I've read it now and I agree with what you say but there isn't much I can do alone to motivate the community to learn or the developers to be more active. I'm already releasing TFS as an engine, to allow people to create their own scripts, and most of my work on the engine in ShadowCores also go to The Forgotten Server 0.2. Don Daniello has been working on setting up a knowledgebase, which might help users who are new or users who still haven't learned, although I don't know the status on that yet. I simply don't have the time to do everything by myself, the community has to help, and I think the OTClient developers have done a really good job. Remember that no one is stopping you from helping, so don't blame me for lazyness of the community. Unfortunately J.Dre has problems understanding that and that's why he's posting bullshit in this thread expecting me to be the guy who makes everything in OpenTibia happen.
I see the anger state has set in, making things personal. And thanks for repeating what I said, hope it gets out there more now. More dissolution in OpenTibia is not what we need, that's a horrible suggestion. I don't have a problem understanding anything, you have a problem of being too ignorant to accept help and ideas from other people. Your ego gets in the way, I'm not sure why, but it does and you may not even notice it.
I might be one of the persons who knows Talaturen the best, we've been friends for a long time and I have also been a part of TwifySoft(SoftCores, ShadowCores etc.) for many years, working closely together with him. I think therefore that I am one of the persons that can actually see the entire picture and actually realise how much open tibia means to him.
Talaturen cares extremely much about this community and keeping open tibia alive, more than the most of you could ever imagine. Not only did he actually donate money to OTFans in an attempt to keep them alive, he also succeeded to get other developers active again, among other things he was a contributing factor to Remere updating his mapeditor again and that OT was moved to github. Things that has helped the entire community to move on. He have done loads of things that probably none ever would have the motivation to do, simply because he cares. And as some of you have mentioned, no, the motivation isn't money. If it all would have been about money, there is a lot of other things that would give you more money, if you look at the work versus money exchange. So please, J.dre, take your bullshit and go somewhere else.
Nothing I have said is bullshit, it's the hard truth that no one wants to hear. I don't know why you're here defending Talaturen, this honestly has nothing to do with you, Hanna. All you have done is stand by Talaturen letting him take advantage of you all these years.
The reason why he isn't in the support board helping newbs with simple issues is because he knows lots of other members in this community know how to solve that issue, and they will help that person, which brings the community closer, and he noticed the amount of help needed in the support board thus why he created the support team, the support team basically represents him, if none of them know how to solve such issue, odds are Talaturen will show up to explain how its solved. Yes he can do so much more, but he chooses not to, because this is just a game, it's taken a huge part of his life and if he doesn't feel comfortable with working more and more for just a game, let him be, it's his life, be glad for what he has already done for you, if it weren't for him, you wouldn't even be here right now. He opened the gates to Open-Tibia, he is a pioneer.
He has done enough, and contributed more than most will, but it doesn't justify him kicking the can down the road. If something can be done to help, it should be done. "Not enough time" is an excuse we have all used. If he wanted to, and truly cared for this community, he'd make time for it. I don't want to see this forum turn into OTFans, whether it be tonight or ten years from now - it's slowly happening.
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Why does this have to be an argument? I make a statement based on what Evan said, and now I'm being attacked by the Administrators of this forum. My goal was to get their attention and hopefully change things for the best around here. Perhaps my approach wasn't as subtle as it could have been, but I tried other methods. About six months ago I contacted Talaturen about this. You know what he told me? "Just because you're a moderator on OTFans doesn't mean you have the right to help..." or something to that extent. Chris, a former Global Moderator, and I spoke with other members on this forum months before I even became a moderator on OTFans (before the downfall) to address this issue. It had nothing to do with that. Do you see now? I suppose it didn't work out as I thought it would, haha.
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