OtLand Attachments & More

Dear Otlanders!

Today I wanted to formally announce changes that were gradually implemented over the past two weeks.

Attachments & Downloads
First and most important, we have enabled attachments and raised the limit of a single attachment to 50 MB.

Why and how was it possible?
Over the past few years I have noticed that many links are dying. We have created The Graveyard and we were force to move content with dead links that couldn't be recovered there. A lot of downloads were reuploaded by good people and a lot of content was recovered from our private mirror (some files were archived when moderators approved them). However, we now see that the most popular (by the number of links) hosting site - speedyshare - is dead. So is rapidshare, megaupload and many more, previously popular sites. It is clear that there is no permanent place we can count on to keep the files alive over so many years.

Therefore, we have decided that the only safe place for that valuable content is attachments on forum. I personally developed an addon for our XenForo forum software to be able to store attachments in safe, replicated storage. Otland is able to pay for the storage costs thanks to our Premium members, so please consider upgrading to a Premium account!

We have began the work of reuploading any files that still exist as attachments. You will see those threads tagged as "attached". By the way, I have also made the tags available on thread list so it is easier to see what content is definitely available and some other information that may be in tags. You can search by tags as well (e.g. by clicking on them) or by multiple tags using the advanced search by tags. This way it is easy to find attached resources for e.g. "7.6" version.



Now that we can fully utilize attachments, we start requiring that new content be uploaded as attachments. It is OK to link to additional mirrors but all the files MUST be attached (so that they don't die with links).

It is also NOT necessary to post links to scans e.g. on VirusTotal in Downloads. If you are downloading a file and want to make sure it is safe, you should scan it yourself. Do NOT trust links to scans because you never know what was actually being scanned!

If you have uploaded something to Downloads in the past, please check if it's still alive and if you find it in The Graveyard, please reupload if you can. If screenshots are missing, please fix that too. We recommend using only Imgur for image hosting (or attachments, but please compress them <100 KB). We also appreciate any help in recreating screenshots for content that has them missing.

If you find content that is dead and you can reupload it, or you can upload new screenshots, please let moderators know by reporting it and explaining your reason.

We have once again turned on moderation for all new threads in Downloads section and disabled editing of your posts in there. This is to avoid someone replacing a valid file with a trojan. Attachments also show their MD5 sum.

Code highlighter
Since the move from vBulletin to XenForo we were lacking a proper syntax highlighter for code blocks. Now this problem is solved and you can once again highlight code for Lua, C++ and many other languages thanks to the popular Geshi syntax highlighter.

See this thread for information how to use the new tags: How to display CODE properly in your post They are different than previously!

Changes in Staff
We would like to thank @Deavz, @wyzr and @Evan for their contributions as Global Moderators on Otland. They have been demoted due to inactivity.

Changes in display
Links now show up as the title of the page they link to.
New tags must not include space. Please tag content by Tibia version (e.g. "8.6", "7.92"). Maximum length is 12 characters in a tag.
On the left side of every post under the avatar of the author we added the number of likes and number of "Best answers". Those serve as "reputation" points that was seen in vBulletin.


Full log of changes:

• Forum changes (deduplicated and moved around less popular forums), new forum Spriting Showoff
• Geshi Syntax Highlighter
• Tags visible on thread list
• MD5 sum now visible for attachments
• Attachment size limit raised to 50 MB
• New file types allowed as attachments
• Can't edit first posts in Downloads anymore
• Moderation (approval) enabled for Downloads
• When posting URLs, they change into page titles
• New "Requests" board under Premium Board
• "Best Answer" is now available on "Request" boards to mark requests being fulfilled!
• Staff changes: @Deavz, @wyzr and @Evan
• Tags must not include space, max 12 characters
• Best Answers count now shown below avatar next to every post

New rules:

• Please do not use pastebin for posting resources! Either attach complete files as attachments or if they are only snippets, embed in code tags. Does not apply to the Support forum - especially logs or errors in output.
• New posts in Downloads: must use attachments, add tags

The Otland Staff

 

[Raggaer]

Its good to see changes coming up

 

[Animera]

<3

 

[Extrodus]

So happy to see some nice changes in the community! The likes/best anwsers under avatars brings back a "reputation system" type of feel.

 

[Xikini]

-- Edit
I may have spoken too soon.
It looks like you can colour hyperlinks without using the glitch now.
Maybe it was always supposed to be able to be coloured, and now it's fixed?

Oh well.

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I know awhile ago I found a way to "glitch" the forum to allow me to colour hyperlinks, even though the forum doesn't specifically allow for links to be coloured.

Can we get a built-in option for coloured hyperlinks?

OtLand - Attachments & More

OtLand - Attachments & More

https://otland.net/threads/attachments-more.249561/#posts-2425050

 

[Colandus]

-- Edit
I may have spoken too soon.
It looks like you can colour hyperlinks without using the glitch now.
Maybe it was always supposed to be able to be coloured, and now it's fixed?

Oh well.

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I know awhile ago I found a way to "glitch" the forum to allow me to colour hyperlinks, even though the forum doesn't specifically allow for links to be coloured.

Can we get a built-in option for coloured hyperlinks?

OtLand - Attachments & More
OtLand - Attachments & More
OtLand - Attachments & More[/URL]

It's not that the forum didn't "allow" it. It's just the way CSS rules work. Yes it was a "bug", but the bug was rather the fact that the links did not get colored and not the contrary.

Before, when attempting to color a link the BBCode would look like [ color ][ url ][ / url ][ / color ] which would also convert into the same type of HTML <span style="color:xxx"><a href="url"></a></span>. In CSS this would mean the links style would be dominant (the a-tag) because it's the innermost one, thus the color tag ignored..

However, the right way to achieve this would be to put the color tag inside the url tag (in BBCode) which would lead to the HTML being <a><span>url text</span></a> and thus render the text color correctly. I assume that was the "glitch" you were using, putting the color-tag inside the url-tag, which the BBCode editor failed to do at the time.

 

[Xikini]

Google
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It's not that the forum didn't "allow" it. It's just the way CSS rules work. Yes it was a "bug", but the bug was rather the fact that the links did not get colored and not the contrary.

Before, when attempting to color a link the BBCode would look like [ color ][ url ][ / url ][ / color ] which would also convert into the same type of HTML <span style="color:xxx"><a href="url"></a></span>. In CSS this would mean the links style would be dominant (the a-tag) because it's the innermost one, thus the color tag ignored..

However, the right way to achieve this would be to put the color tag inside the url tag (in BBCode) which would lead to the HTML being <a><span>url text</span></a> and thus render the text color correctly. I assume that was the "glitch" you were using, putting the color-tag inside the url-tag, which the BBCode editor failed to do at the time.

Sounds right.
Basically I had to do it *exactly* like this.

Write text -> colour text -> hyperlink text -> put spaces inbetween text -> write text in middle -> colour text -> delete both outsides of text -> never touch it again, or it reverted all my changes.

 

[president vankk]

Nice changes.

 

[Ambrax]

nice update.

 

[Krabaten]

It is also NOT necessary to post links to scans e.g. on VirusTotal in Downloads. If you are downloading a file and want to make sure it is safe, you should scan it yourself. Do NOT trust links to scans because you never know what was actually being scanned!

We have once again turned on moderation for all new threads in Downloads section and disabled editing of your posts in there. This is to avoid someone replacing a valid file with a trojan. Attachments also show their MD5 sum.

What does a moderator do when he approves a download thread? Isnt the purpose to check if the files are valid and not trojans?

 

[Don Daniello]

What does a moderator do when he approves a download thread? Isnt the purpose to check if the files are valid and not trojans?

Yes, we do that. That's exactly why you shouldn't trust links posted by others to any "scans", even the thread authors. In the past, we haven't always approved threads in Downloads so not all of them are checked but we always remove bad content if we see it. You can always report a thread if you suspect malicious content. A new link to scan results under the attachment details now links to the scan results for that file that was checked.

 

[wyzr]

Dear Otlanders!
....
Changes in Staff
We would like to thank @Deavz, @wyzr and @Evan for their contributions as Global Moderators on Otland. They have been demoted due to inactivity.

Full log of changes:

• Staff changes: @Deavz, @wyzr and @Evan....

The Otland Staff

No, thank you!
I'm happy to see this community growing, pleasure working here was mine.

) love u @Mark and OtLand Staff

 

[dominique120]

Baning pastebin links seems a little backwards. Now if we want to see someones file we have to download it and open it on our computer. Before all we had to do was click a link and we had access to it.

This applies only to support section. In the downloads section its better to have the files here on OTLand.

 

[Colandus]

Baning pastebin links seems a little backwards. Now if we want to see someones file we have to download it and open it on our computer. Before all we had to do was click a link and we had access to it.

This applies only to support section. In the downloads section its better to have the files here on OTLand.

I agree

 

[Doomdice]

same here I agree with dominique

 

[Don Daniello]

@dominique120 @Colandus @Doomdice
I was hoping that the CODE or QUOTE tags would be sufficient for those. I never wanted people to upload logs as files. The rule exists to make sure that people don't post e.g. single-page modifications for Gesior or other AACs as a link to pastebin. I made the rule clear now in the main post.

 

[Colandus]

@dominique120 @Colandus @Doomdice
I was hoping that the CODE or QUOTE tags would be sufficient for those. I never wanted people to upload logs as files. The rule exists to make sure that people don't post e.g. single-page modifications for Gesior or other AACs as a link to pastebin. I made the rule clear now in the main post.

Yeah I guess, but sometimes they post massive scripts and I guess the word limit prevents them from posting them.

 

[dominique120]

@dominique120 @Colandus @Doomdice
I was hoping that the CODE or QUOTE tags would be sufficient for those. I never wanted people to upload logs as files. The rule exists to make sure that people don't post e.g. single-page modifications for Gesior or other AACs as a link to pastebin. I made the rule clear now in the main post.

Yeah I guess, but sometimes they post massive scripts and I guess the word limit prevents them from posting them.

I'm not sure if we are on the same page here.

For the downloads sections the rules are great. Attach everything in a zip file or alone.

But for the support section, it is at times more convenient for someone to pate their items.xml file(for example) on pastebin than having to attach it. That way we can give it a quick look and see what the problem is.

 

[Don Daniello]

I'm not sure if we are on the same page here.

For the downloads sections the rules are great. Attach everything in a zip file or alone.

But for the support section, it is at times more convenient for someone to pate their items.xml file(for example) on pastebin than having to attach it. That way we can give it a quick look and see what the problem is.

Amended the rule above.

 

[grafit]

Much valuable content has been lost over the years. Thanks to the change! Now we will not lose more content