Blinkz and MysteriousDot are 2 pretty good friends of mine so I would personally trust what they say until they are proven to be wrong.
I do not know MysteriousDot, but Blinkz has proven to be very mature in the past so I can see why you would trust everything he says. /InternetSarcasm
My statements were based off of the ones made prior to mine.
Statements made by someone that is angry that they found a t12 by accident, did not get to keep it, and is now willing to start problems over a forum about said situation.
it's also said that this person paid over/under 1000$ for it
I don't know how the item was obtained, I do know that there is no "official" way of donating for gear so no record of said action could have been recorded thus my decision to help said player could not have been based on money even if I wanted it to be.
Now say I was in his position and I lost my t12 bow. Would I be angry and upset? Yes. Would I beg the staff to get my item back? Yes.
Would the staff have helped you with your problem?
Most likely yes.
Would that have resulted in you being happy?
Yes.
Would you continue to play the server?
Yes
If the answer had been no, would you continue to play the server.
Chances are no.
Given the answer yes, would the player that found the item be upset?
Yes.
Will they continue to play the server?
Chances are yes in most cases.
If I was to accidently drop my magic plate armor on real tibia and someone picked it up, do you think if I complained and begged enough the staff would give it back to me?
Does real tibia have 100-200 players?
Almost but not quite.
Does it take 12 months to obtain a magic plate armor on real tibia?
No.
Does real tibia have in-game staff?
No.
But it's the staff's job to keep their professionalism under control.
So basically what I understand from this comment is that in order to preserve my professionalism I must always default to doing nothing no matter what the problem is because no matter what choice I make that involves taking action, it will always be deemed unprofessional depending on what view you have of the situation.
- Helping the player is unprofessional in the eyes of the person that found the item.
- Allowing both players to keep the items is unprofessional in the eyes of everyone else in the server that did not get a free item.
So the only real solution is to do nothing.
I am sorry if you do not agree, but if these are the choices you give me... I choose to be the admin that cares, instead of the professional admin that doesn't. And to be honest, if that is the level of professionalism you are looking for in a game, then I must question why you are involved in OPEN TIBIA which is the polar opposite of a professional game.
Okay you have one big ass flaw in your statement. If you thought the bow was lost in Server save which is a lie, then once you realized that we had it why would you go on by taking it back? And don't give me that shit about going around flaunting it, because that is also a lie we told 2 people. THATS IT
P.S Shawn I recall when I was hacked you got my account back for me but you absolutely REFUSED to give back my items and keys so don't give me that shit.
This will be the last post I make about this topic. I will not sit and argue over a forum about such a silly incident. At the end of the day, nobody lost anything they had a few hours prior and nobody gained anything they didn't. Logically speaking, the outcome of this situation was spot on 100% as perfect as it could have been. The only problem now is that someone decided to come onto the forum and throw a tantrum because they didn't get their way.
I was presented several options over the course of this incident. I think any admin presented with these options on a server such as Deathzot would have made the same decision I did.
Here is my logic, it's not perfect but it is some insight into how I problem solve and it might help you understand why I did what I did, why I would gladly do it again, and why I honestly think any admin that is passionate about their game/server/players/ect... would have made the same decision.
~ Player A presents admin with situation ~
Options:
- Help Player A with a lost item but inform them that if it is found out that he/she is lying then they will be punished accordingly.
- Assume that someone located said item in a random container that was dropped somewhere in the world.
- Assume the player is completely lying about the entire situation.
Option 1 is ideal because of course we want to help someone, even if we do not find out they were lying right away eventually the truth will come out because nothing stays secret forever.
Option 2 is highly unlikely given the amount of containers dropped in the world every day and the frequency of server cleans (every hour).
Option 3 is actually very likely in most situations but generally speaking with an item of such value and rarity, a player who has played long enough to obtain such a thing is not going to risk losing everything they have just to get an item for free... that would be quite silly.
~24 hours later Player A informs admin that the item was indeed picked up by a player and that they know who found it ~
Options:
- Help Player A that just lost well over 5 months of work because of a stupid mistake.
- Allow Player B that just found an item in 2 seconds to keep it at the expense of the Player A's loss.
- Allow both players to keep the items.
Option 1 helps Player A with their mistake. Player B's net loss is 0 as they never actually had that item to begin with until randomly finding it on the ground.
Option 2 makes Player B happy because they just gained a huge amount of value for free but at the expense of Player A who will likely quit because equipment on a server such as Deathzot is everything and when you lose everything after playing 6-8 months you are unlikely to start over unless absolutely addicted.
Option 3 is unrealistic. An admin is never going to willingly "duplicate" an item especially one of such value. It may not seem like such a problem to the normal player but in order to preserve the integrity of the server, items put into the server via admin must be avoided at all cost unless there is a good reason. Good reasons being events/contests/ects... Bad reasons being fri itens plx/you are my friend/i lost my item for <insert reason here> give me new one.
P.S.
I helped you recover an account in the past? I don't remember that but not to fear! It will never happen again, rest assured!
