CipSoft RealEngine 7.4 [Development Thread] – BETA Phase Incoming

[Ascendia]

Regarding TVP I dont want to hear more about it because for one. Sometimes people gatekeep bugs to not have repos evolve and grow to become competitors and secondly sure. He is a busy guy but he tends to look and patch bugs when he comes around to it.

I can understand everyones frustration. It is a similar situation to that of neptunos engine and rawesh in terms of label vs product in the sense that it can be an endless conversation. But try to keep in mind that if you have a copy of the project just report any issues found. Basically like this, one of my communications with Ezzz and how he is taking care of an issue i reported.



Now that everyone got that out of their systems lets focus on what the thread is really about. Which is not ezz, tibiara, TVP or any other project related to ezz or in general throwing shit at each other because it can continue forever.

 

[JeiDi]

Regarding TVP I dont want to hear more about it because for one. Sometimes people gatekeep bugs to not have repos evolve and grow to become competitors and secondly sure. He is a busy guy but he tends to look and patch bugs when he comes around to it.

I can understand everyones frustration. It is a similar situation to that of neptunos engine and rawesh in terms of label vs product. But try to keep in mind that if you have a copy of the project just report any issues found.

Now that everyone got that out of their systems lets focus on what the thread is really about. Which is not ezz, tibiara, TVP or any other project relatef to ezz.

Is it another crypto advertising thread like Ezzz's old TVP thread?

Is it a discussion thread about an engine you will use as a closed source for your server?
Is it a discussion thread about something that will be open source?
Is it a discussion thread about something that you are going to sell on Discord, like Ezzz did with his TVP?

This thread is not labeled as anything, maybe that's because the first post looks like it was written by the AI?

 

[Ascendia]

Is it another crypto advertising thread like Ezzz's old TVP thread?

Is it a discussion thread about an engine you will use as a closed source for your server?
Is it a discussion thread about something that will be open source?
Is it a discussion thread about something that you are going to sell on Discord, like Ezzz did with his TVP?

This thread is not labeled as anything, maybe that's because the first post looks like it was written by the AI?

Yes I restructured the main thread by AI to make sure it was clean, simple and got my message across that Im not claiming anything. What this thread is truly about is showcasing the new engine and looking for beta testers to play on it.

It is closed source and it is not going to be some project where there will be "clients" who can obtain it and it is not for sell. Now I've made it very clear.

 

[JeiDi]

Yes I restructured the main thread by AI to make sure it was clean, simple and got my message across that Im not claiming anything. What this thread is truly about is showcasing the new engine and looking for beta testers to play on it.

It is closed source and it is not going to be some project where there will be "clients" who can obtain it and it is not for sell. Now I've made it very clear.

So, since you said it'll not be open source or sold, why don't you have a discussion (development) thread for your server? Weird strategy to hide that

That being said, why would anyone bother to test it for you?

 

[Ascendia]

Some people are interested in the work done and want to check it out. Simple as that.

Good point. Changed the title.

So, since you said it'll not be open source or sold, why don't you have a discussion (development) thread for your server? Weird strategy to hide that

That being said, why would anyone bother to test it for you?

 

[Ascendia]

 

[NvSo]

Dude it was a loss that Exoria was built on TVP luckily i could make it fully stable in less than 2 weeks, you have no clue how far i went from your engine, so

You say i using your engine, feels like im fixing your mess because the server was based on it. [I won't change whole engine and give up on such a simple challenge]
You say i stagnate/mimic your structure (Stop fantasizing yourself haha) my server today relies on the TFS 1.4.2 structure in your engine nothing else :
QueryManager by SSD (Full of shit Rollbacks without crash, saving/loading problems : useless in production good for testing server which makes it more useless, that you will think its fine but actually its not)
FollowAttack // FollowCreature (Completely messed up till i had to correct many issues about it for myself)
Gamebeat (completely messed up)
Skills Multiplier (Completely Messed up)
BlockHit & Formulas (30% Correct, 70% Messed up)
AttackModes? (Messed up in multiple aspects that you probably didn't notice while mimicing realOTS instead truly reversing the code using IDE tool)
Paralyze // Invisible & Conditions in general (Completely not correct)
SpawnRate (Completely messed up but that wasn't big one yet its game destructive.)
..etc (I can mention more 20 Issue that had to be resolved in your Divine Engine that you don't have any idea how much it went far from all of your solutions and now relies on mine)
NPCs Issues : (That you are clearly aware of )
So You are trying to keep a good face instead getting hold of your shit.

So Almightly Ezzz Why Promise77 by Ascendia had to fall multiple times ? (TVP Issues)
Why Promise77 had to struggle with multiple releases? (Because you didn't give it the care it requires as a customer for you you literally say its solved and the say issue occurs in less than 24 hours so you made it seem relying on useless developers, which actually was the case. )

Almighty Ezzz : Why you didn't use TVP if its the fully Perfected Engine after 10 years of effort? maybe i can tell you why if you don't know.
Because : it had too many flaws to be relied on with RL OT Project.

So if i rely on your engine i rely on the TFS 1.4.2 aspect of it, i had to go through every single change you made over tfs 1.4.2 and rewrite it because the logic was poor & code seemed like (Error & Trail Result) instead being (Logic based structure)

Edit: I lost time, effort to make a corrupted engine flawless and free of bugs, capable of holding a world enough to grow, i wish it didn't rely on your engine or whatever you sold for your clients 1k USD thats a loss to pay 1k usd for.
Thank you for reading.

Another Edit: Proof-case of my capability in Making Poor engines useable and solid is Evolisca, its Engine is OTX2 [TFS0.4 Based] and its flawless.

anyone can achieve a good server without "special engines" TFS, TVP, RealOts or any other is fine, everyone is fine, instead of forming a community, everyone in Otland is constantly killing each other.

Post automatically merged: May 19, 2025

Ive done it 10 times i gave up eventually it keeps going away

jus use massgrave and lets goo

 

[Ascendia]

People are free to namedrop suggestions to the project.

For those who want to test and provide feedback you can just hop on and see the progress.

23.157.88.55
Use the regular 7.7 client and otland ip changer
(Some tiles might look different but its because you will be using 7.7 spr/dat while we use 7.4, with the converted map)

123/123 to login with regular characters
111/111 to login with GMs

 

[Ascendia]

Update on our downgrade to 7.4
Here you can see some old mechanics we just re-implemented.

• Pushing items that are not top pos in the stack depending on which item was seleced to when you began your action
• A glitch that existed back then to self rope your lootbag

 

[Way20]

The map conversion was succesful and on its way to as close to 100% as we can get information on.

Few years ago I was working on getting correct 7.4 map as well but standard OTs map (otbm) not CIP files, I ended putting it away and didn't finished it. I've spent many hours on it though and may be able to help you with possible differences on map between 7.4 and 7.7

Use the regular 7.7 client and otland ip changer
(Some tiles might look different but its because you will be using 7.7 spr/dat while we use 7.4, with the converted map)

Is there anyway to log in using 7.4 sprites? That way would be easier to check.

 

[Ascendia]

Few years ago I was working on getting correct 7.4 map as well but standard OTs map (otbm) not CIP files, I ended putting it away and didn't finished it. I've spent many hours on it though and may be able to help you with possible differences on map between 7.4 and 7.7

Is there anyway to log in using 7.4 sprites? That way would be easier to check.

Download regular client 7.7 and use this spr and dat.
Accounts are available from 100/100 to 499/499

 

[jeanphilip]

Yet another downgrade special engine... we have how many now? Nekiro downgrade, millhoire downgrade, TFS 1.7 downgrade., OTHire, TVP, Nostalrius.... I think I could keep going for days if I cared enough to keep looking...


So my question to you, is what makes your version so special? Why is it a better option than TVP for example? Are you actually reverse engineering, or are you just claiming "reverse engineered" like ezzz did, simply because you are using translated code from the cipsoft leak?

that's so true I reviewed TVP and its nothing close as ezzz have said. it just another tfs with ezzz modification.
it's ridiculous and he made tools for that same as with nostalrius like a new znoteacc website so simple. Obviously to after that sell a layout with his adaptations LMAO, i made it work it with mine website although.

 

[Codinablack]

that's so true I reviewed TVP and its nothing close as ezzz have said. it just another tfs with ezzz modification.
its ridiculous and he made tools for that same as with nostalrius like a new znoteacc website so simple. obiously to after that sell a layout with his adaptations lmfao, i made it work it db with mine db altough

For the record, I put TVP as the example to compare against because it's pretty well established as THE best distro for the old school lovers.

I don't personally use those kinds of servers, so I'm not giving my opinion, I'm just speaking on what seems to be the general consensus

PS. Please people don't quote me and then talk smack. My words were not meant as an attack on anyone. I was just being forward and upfront with my questions and opinions

 

[Ascendia]

Few years ago I was working on getting correct 7.4 map as well but standard OTs map (otbm) not CIP files, I ended putting it away and didn't finished it. I've spent many hours on it though and may be able to help you with possible differences on map between 7.4 and 7.7

Is there anyway to log in using 7.4 sprites? That way would be easier to check.

For the record, I put TVP as the example to compare against because it's pretty well established as THE best distro for the old school lovers.

I don't personally use those kinds of servers, so I'm not giving my opinion, I'm just speaking on what seems to be the general consensus

PS. Please people don't quote me and then talk smack. My words were not meant as an attack on anyone. I was just being forward and upfront with my questions and opinions

Its a bad example to create a distro and then complain about others doing the same. Its contradictive and yet not what is being done here.
This is the actual engine, with no TFS related code at all and its not a free distribution thread. Its a discussion thread regarding the projects advancement and downgrade to 7.4. Basically a display of sort to include the community in the project being built.

 

[Way20]

The map conversion was succesful and on its way to as close to 100% as we can get information on.

I've been checking a few places on map and overall you did a good job but it's still not 100% accurate to 7.4 version.

I will point out some I looked into:

The ice islands borders are internal instead of external, so you have to consider that when converting.
Your map:
Correct 7.4 map (look also at the details around the mountain):


This building in northport didn't exist yet in 7.4:

Correct 7.4 map (four of those trees in the picture above were also 1 sqm to the left):


Memory Stone didn't exist back in 7.4:


If you care for the little details it's far from 100% actually. You've inspired me to go back and start working again on the map I mentioned before, I plan on releasing it for the community so everyone who wants can help with inconsistencies like these.

 

[Ascendia]

I've been checking a few places on map and overall you did a good job but it's still not 100% accurate to 7.4 version.

I will point out some I looked into:

The ice islands borders are internal instead of external, so you have to consider that when converting.
Your map:View attachment 92751
Correct 7.4 map (look also at the details around the mountain):
View attachment 92752

This building in northport didn't exist yet in 7.4:
View attachment 92753
Correct 7.4 map (four of those trees in the picture above were also 1 sqm to the left):
View attachment 92757

Memory Stone didn't exist back in 7.4:
View attachment 92755

If you care for the little details it's far from 100% actually. You've inspired me to go back and start working again on the map I mentioned before, I plan on releasing it for the community so everyone who wants can help with inconsistencies like these.

We didnt implement the new map yet, this one is basically a downgrade from cipsofts own 7.7 map, with few map edits.

The new one is based on tibiacams. Mid way we understood there is a fast way to do it or an accurate way to do it. So its basically a complete map sweep of tibiacams in the next map.