The end - for botters. BattlEye comes to Tibia

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  1. Arashel

    Arashel Stefan the Stormtrooper

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    You're wrong. You've glanced at those stats without even thinking about them.
    At this moment there is about 680 players on 7.1 - 7.6 server and about 9000 players on 7.1 - 8.6 versions, with ~7500 playing solely on 8.6 version. Total number of players on all servers is about 17700, so 7.6 players are in minority and the number of 7.1 - 8.6 players barely classify as majority. Giving example of relaunching 7.6 server was poor choice. And even if we assume relanuch of 8.6 version, there is still the matter of many servers not being vanilla servers. Most of the server on 8.6 version have a lot higher rates and other features like custom map, fast attack system or others. That confidence of yours shouldn't exist.
     
  2. aklopis

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    7.1-8.6 - 9k players just counting otserverlist
    rl tibia right now 9,8k(when bot is still runnable).

    i still think there's more ppl playing 7.1-8.6 tibia than rl, so that's actually majority :)
    well i guess one of the reason why barly noone wants to play 1x exp otserver is that there's much less guarantee that the server goes down and you will lose all time invested than on rl tibia.
     
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  3. Marcus

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    Sorry but look at otservlist for reference.
    There's thousands and thousands of oldschool players.
    There's probably right now 5k players online in oldschool servers, Medivia for one has 2+k alone.
    And there's a shitload of retired oldschool players that either don't play OTs anymore or play 8.6+ because there's most players there, but all of whom, would not with an blink of an eye, create a character in a <7.7 world in tibia.com if they opened one.

    I bet, if CipSoft made an EU and USA 7.7 server right now, without launching it, there would be 20,000 characters created within a week.
     
  4. Arashel

    Arashel Stefan the Stormtrooper

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    Make up your damn mind...
    First you talk about relaunch of 7.6 server and when arguments pro-7.6 don't suit your example, you immediately switch to more favorable example. Also I gave roughly estimated numbers, to show that even with combing many version, numbers aren't that impressive. That 9000 number was estimated from bunch of versions, incuding 8.6, 7.6 and 7.1. Don't use in that general manner of yours. It doesn't make any sense. 7.1 is not 7.6 and it is not 8.6. Don't fuse it into one giant blob of preferences, because only ~7000 play on 8.6 version and You don't have any proofs to say that rest of the players would switch and also play on 8.6


    This is just your hypothesis. Don't treat is as fact. The lack of any vanilla servers is the only fact here. If you want dwell into psycho-analysis of players, then please go to any server and preform any actual survey. If not, I'll not even pretend to treat your hypothesis like some kind of actual theory.



    Jesus Christ, your logic is so chaotic and illogic... I based my number on otservlist. Also You say to me to look at otservlist for references and in the next sentence You gave example of Medivia which is not on the otservlist.
    Besides, I think you don't really understand the term "old school". It means that EVERYTHING must be done just like in older versions. This includes rates. 7.6 Server with 999x rates is not old school. The only old school version of 7.6 is server with 1x rates.


    This is just yet another hypothesis made by yet another OtLand user disconnected from reality of dying community of this game. People tend to grow up and lose interest in video games. Especially from games that requires a lot of time and at the same time don't look so good. Don't expect them to come back. This is just wishful thinking.

    I like how You weren't bald enough to say that it will get 20k of players online, so you went with slightly more reasonable amount of created characters xD
     
  5. tddf1995

    tddf1995 New Member

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    @Arashel there is around 1300 players online in medivia (1x/2x/1x and one midexp sv 7x) and on own tibia have 3500 right now...
    Why do think it's happen?
     
  6. aklopis

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    I said 7.6 for example, but I guess you studied journalist and you read only what you want to read. I bet cip has access to otserverlist and can filter data and find what's the best to relaunch. And still 7k ppl on 8.6 is not all of players. There's many more servers than on otserverlist.




    Look medivia. I know it's custom but look at theris SMS shop and compare it to other 2weeks, p2w otservers. Medivia isn't p2w. You can only buy premium like on real tibia. Can you see how many ppl play there?

    The only thing I can agree with you it's that tibia community is dying ;) but looking at numbers on otservers it's not so bad yet.
     
  7. Arashel

    Arashel Stefan the Stormtrooper

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    @tddf1995
    It because very few people bother to play that old game. There is currently 14,000 online players on official tibia, otservlist and Medivia. This is ridiculously low amount of active players for any MMO. High ratio of Medivia players towards official players, doesn't mean that many people would play official Tibia in ~7.6 version. It means that ~1000 players more would play that game. It's nothing.
    Also if Medivia is not clone of older Tibia and possess any new and additional mechanism, then You cannot just say that those players would join official Tibia. Old protocol is not the only factor that somehow overwrites any other aspects. If someone like OTS on ver. 7.6 with some new features, it doesn't mean that this person would love to play vanilla version. You're making connections between almost unrelated aspects.




    Dude... You gave example and I debunked that example. You did even have enough courtesy to acknowledge your poor choice of example. How can I "read only what I want to read", when I'm the one who give the stats about 8.6 version...? Grow up...
    And again... Most servers are not resemble old Tibia. Those are servers that use old client and have higher rates and other custom maps or mechanism.


    Huh...? Why the hell do you use Medivia, which is custom server, as example for some imaginary need for old vanilla Tibia server...? This is like proving market demand for SUV cars with argument that there is a lot of people who like sedans... It doesn't make any sense.
     
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    And again you totally ignored why I mentioned medivia... :)
     
  9. Get_Rooked_469

    Get_Rooked_469

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    So how's Tibia doing now with BattleEye? Any news, updates, opinions on this subject?

    @Arashel Actually, you're right. It wouldn't be smart to open a 10 year old version in that exact state.
    On the other hand, it does open the door to reintroduce crosshairs aiming/ disabling auto hotkey for runes and spells on retro servers, IF it works. :D

    Question is, are players still botting in Tibia these days?
     
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    ofc
     
  11. Azze19

    Azze19 Solo developer

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    Currently BE shielded worlds are the most populated, also, believe it or not we've been having a decent influx of completely new players plus those who are returning due to BE. So far people playing in the new worlds have been saying there's no bots. Hopefully that'll happen with Rowana, Garnera and Serdebra.
     
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    Get_Rooked_469

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    That's good to hear. :) Thanks for the info.
    Checked the news on homepage just now. Sounds promising!
    I'll be sure to try one of the BE shielded retro PVP worlds when free accounts are allowed.
     
  13. BahamutxD

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    So BE is now active in almost every world, anyone seen any difference in botting?
     
  14. Sajgon

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    Ofcourse, there are no botters, only some macros. I am playing Vita and its BE protected since release.
     
  15. HalfAway

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    BE is active in every world, the remaining worlds will be merged into new worlds.
    The PVP-Enf will be removed because of low player base.
     
  16. Tony32

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    People abusing casks with auto refill and spellcasters, even on BE servers. Cannot be stopped unfortunately.
     
  17. Marcus

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    BattleEye can ignore macro recordings actually, I'm not sure why Tibia decided to disable that part.
    When they first started fresh worlds with BattleEye, I tried out if it really protected against Macro, and so it did..
    A simple macro was recorded, and once I enable playback and it took control over my mouse/keyboard, the tibia client acted like an image and not a client, mouse could click and move around but nothing happens ingame.
    This part however, I noticed was gone some weeks ago.

    So they did have a good way to ignore it, question is why they removed that part o_O
     
  18. Thexamx

    Thexamx worst coder

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    Maybe cipsoft is aware that no one will stay 12h clicking F1 and F2 to get 80 mlvl? Macro cant do shit tbh, it just replay ur mouse movement so it cant be harmful to people or affect the gameplay, maybe slightly. I would do the same.
    They were disallowing, but doing nothing to prevent that (which in fact was allowing) botters for all these years, so I think it's like that for people to help them somehow.

    Also after battleye was completely integrated into Tibia my ping jumped from 150-200 to 50-100, no idea if this is the reason tho.
     
  19. Marcus

    Marcus User.postCount++; Premium User

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    Actually you can create a very simple bot using a macro recorder :)
    If the macro contains functions to play another macro file, jump to, detect color by pixel, or pixel by color... then you can set up a very simple bot.
    For instance, I could create mysel an auto-heal and auto-mana bot using only a macro recorder by pointing out which pixels should change color to trigger a hotkey command.

    With that, you can also create auto-logout with correctly set-up battle list, you can make a simple autoloot and so on.

    Only your imagination is your limit :)
     
  20. Fenrisus

    Fenrisus Ferin-Sha

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    I can suggest for "skilled botters" one great solution. And no one can stop you in that case and it's 1000% undetectable.
    Those solution - called UOPilot. Programm, that developed originally (like Razor, UOAssist and etc) for Ultima Online. But nowadays it's still works for any game. Just one of UO Pilot features - screen pixel analyzes. You can make an minimap walker by waypoints. And other interesting things.

    Just for example, we have a mini-map:
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    Code (Text):
    1.  
    2. set #a 540 //starting x(minimap) position
    3. set #b 250 /starting y(minimap) position
    4. While_not #a, #b 4543057 //looking for a color
    5. set #a #a + 1 //x + 1
    6. If #a = 580 //our X value
    7. set #a 540 //Current Value== X starting
    8. set #b #b + 1 //Y + 1
    9. end_if
    10. if #b = 270 //Y Value
    11. end_scripg 2 //in my case it's stops script number 2
    12. end_if
    13. end_while
    14. right #a, #b //right mouse click on coordinates where you found a mini-map mark.
    15. end_script
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    UO Pilot Pros & Cons.

    PROS:
    You can do everything if you know how.
    Undetectable, cuz they are dont hooks into your game. It's simple emulate Keys press, mouse clicks and etc. As you do it manually.
    CONS:
    Not user-friendly, medium "enterance - level"
    You CANT do anything else, while UOPilot script is active.
    Hard to sharing scripts between users, cuz their clicks and scan coordinates based on your resolution and client window position.

    But anyways, you may try. For example, i used that for making hotkeys (before Tibia hotkeys exists, UOPilot can send any text into chat: say "exura vita send Enter), auto-healing, auto runes auto-targeting, auto loot and simple walking on small area aka CaveBot. It's like a Tibia Auto, but undetectable and without hooks into client ;)
     
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