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Why there is 3 otclients here on forum?

1

2

3 (looks the best for now)
GitHub - mehah/otclient: An alternative tibia client for otserv written in C++11 and Lua, made with a modular system that uses lua scripts for ingame interface and functionality, making otclient flexible and easy to customize (https://github.com/mehah/otclient)

???

I'm a linux player and I don't even know which should i use...
Why everybody don't work in only one, so it be always the best?

(searching about otc i see a lot of topics of otv8, there is a lot of new accounts promoting it, pls don't comment here, its close source project by one man, i don't want to use this close project)
 

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It's hard to keep track but im pretty sure mehah otc is the best one openly available that isn't basically abandoned.

the otcv8 situation isn't very nice, however you're only doing yourself a disservice without at least trying it.
 

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Doesn't matter, you still have access to a lot of things. Don't act like limited access to rendering part and all low-level code is somehow blocking you. Not you, not 99% of people here would even know what to do there. The fact that we had to wait so long for someone like kondrah and mehah proves this even more.
The only downside to Developer Edition is that you have to share any additions you do, but hey, we are open source community and that's how it should be, right? Or are you just a hypocrite?

It's hard to keep track but im pretty sure mehah otc is the best one openly available that isn't basically abandoned.

the otcv8 situation isn't very nice, however you're only doing yourself a disservice without at least trying it.
OTCv8 isn't abandoned. Kondrah added Graph support recently, which can be used for example to create 1:1 Cipsoft Loot Analyzer. Then there is upcoming support for 64x64 sprites. It's like you are all living the day that v8 was announced here. Shame how the best client is the most hated one.
 
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Doesn't matter, you still have access to a lot of things. Don't act like limited access to rendering part and all low-level code is somehow blocking you. Not you, not 99% of people here would even know what to do there. The fact that we had to wait so long for someone like kondrah and mehah proves this even more.
The only downside to Developer Edition is that you have to share any additions you do, but hey, we are open source community and that's how it should be, right? Or are you just a hypocrite?


OTCv8 isn't abandoned. Kondrah added Graph support recently, which can be used for example to create 1:1 Cipsoft Loot Analyzer. Then there is upcoming support for 64x64 sprites. It's like you are all living the day that v8 was announced here. Shame how the best client is the most hated one.
Yeah cause its based off another fully open source project, just to make money. I wonder why it's so hated. Also no need to be meanie with all that knowledge bullshit :D

Anyway, let's not get offtopic.
I recommend mehah otc 1.0, it's very decent.
 

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In a weird twisted way i kind of agree with kondrahs approach to creating the developer edition. In the modern era 99% of developers just fork OTcleint and close source all their improvements atleast with developer addition your forced to share. Only person from recent memory who openly shared their improvements is mehan but most other owners wont share their OTclient improvements since the commercilisation of OT's. V8 will be the go to client until that changes wich i dont see happening anytime soon. Mehans done a great service but it still lacks behind V8.

But to answer @hiwyn

The first client you linked is edubarts original thats not maintained anymore, the second is OTlands fork of it wich is not maintained anymore, the third one you linked is mehans wich is currently being maintained but to his own admition wont be maintained for much longer so it will end up like the first 2. Hence why otv8 will likely always be superior because theirs a monitary motivation behind the developer to keep maintaing it so best to probably use that unless you have the programming skills to create and fork your own version of OTclient.
 

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OTCv8 isn't abandoned. Kondrah added Graph support recently, which can be used for example to create 1:1 Cipsoft Loot Analyzer. Then there is upcoming support for 64x64 sprites. It's like you are all living the day that v8 was announced here. Shame how the best client is the most hated one.
I never said it's abandoned, it's just not open, so mehah is the next in line for "best". Maybe I wasn't clear enough.
I also don't hate otcv8, i love it. I don't however love kondrah or the situation in which otcv8 came in to existence and continues to exist.

otcv8 was built in part using this communities open resources and support and the 'thanks' we get is a closed source client that costs 5k for the source and a bunch of other overpriced 'features' deliberately missing for no purpose other than profit and probably more features that aren't publicly known being sold for even higher prices privately. Considering this is an (and THE) OPEN community, then it's not exactly hard to realise why people 'hate' otcv8... lol.

You also don't need to defend otcv8 reputation, it's forever stained and will never change. The damage is done, the otcv8 brand is ruined.

Let's also not pretend that the 'developer edition' isn't just a way to get free development to increase the exposure of otcv8 and thus increase sales of the source and additional features.
 

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Let's also not pretend that the 'developer edition' isn't just a way to get free development to increase the exposure of otcv8 and thus increase sales of the source and additional features.
THIS!
This is why I'm here. Because all of you are clueless, you have no idea at all about v8 situation and who kondrah is.
Developer Edition came to life only for ONE reason. Everyone that bought sources DISAGREED when kondrah wanted to go FULLY open source. DE was the only way to get close to open source without making his clients fight him (maybe even sue).
 

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THIS!
This is why I'm here. Because all of you are clueless, you have no idea at all about v8 situation and who kondrah is.
Developer Edition came to life only for ONE reason. Everyone that bought sources DISAGREED when kondrah wanted to go FULLY open source. DE was the only way to get close to open source without making his clients fight him (maybe even sue).
What I know is that if I kick kondrah's balls it will break your teeth. How much does he pay you to defend him all the time? Can't him speak by himself? 🤣
 

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THIS!
This is why I'm here. Because all of you are clueless, you have no idea at all about v8 situation and who kondrah is.
Developer Edition came to life only for ONE reason. Everyone that bought sources DISAGREED when kondrah wanted to go FULLY open source. DE was the only way to get close to open source without making his clients fight him (maybe even sue).
That sounds to good to be true, Why would he want to open source a client he had been selling sources for? Like surely he knew he couldn't open source he's not stupid. lol sounds like a bad attempt at PR on his part.
 

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What I know is that if I kick kondrah's balls it will break your teeth. How much does he pay you to defend him all the time? Can't him speak by himself? 🤣
There we go, now real community shows up. Go on you toxic shits, throw mud and not arguments as you always do, that's all you can do. This is why I'm not publishing my scripts anymore, that's why I'm only making money out of this community, cause you deserve NOTHING.
That sounds to good to be true, Why would he want to open source a client he had been selling sources for? Like surely he knew he couldn't open source he's not stupid . lol sounds like a bad attempt at PR lol.
Right, because every week someone buys v8 sources... Kondrah doesn't have time to work on v8 24/7, I bet that he didn't sell sources in months. If I were him I would do the same, even if he sold few copies of v8 sources, it would be painful to just give up and abandom something that he spent so much energy on. Didn't that cross your mind? Or only hate is what you guys can think of?
 

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There we go, now real community shows up. Go on you toxic shits, throw mud and not arguments as you always do, that's all you can do. This is why I'm not publishing my scripts anymore, that's why I'm only making money out of this community, cause you deserve NOTHING.

Right, because every week someone buys v8 sources... Kondrah doesn't have time to work on v8 24/7, I bet that he didn't sell sources in months. If I were him I would do the same, even if he sold few copies of v8 sources, it would be painful to just give up and abandom something that you spent so much energy on. Didn't that cross your mind? Or only hate is what you guys can think of?
I don't hate kondrah or you, I have spoken to him a few times he isn't the demon that people on here make him out to be I just think that sounds ridiculous that he had a sudden change of heart lol let's not kid ourselves he was in it for the cash, nothing wrong with it but yea just sounds to good to be true is all I'm saying. From what I hear, right or wrong he's done pretty well selling stuff.
 

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There we go, now real community shows up. Go on you toxic shits, throw mud and not arguments as you always do, that's all you can do. This is why I'm not publishing my scripts anymore, that's why I'm only making money out of this community, cause you deserve NOTHING.

Right, because every week someone buys v8 sources... Kondrah doesn't have time to work on v8 24/7, I bet that he didn't sell sources in months. If I were him I would do the same, even if he sold few copies of v8 sources, it would be painful to just give up and abandom something that he spent so much energy on. Didn't that cross your mind? Or only hate is what you guys can think of?
Well your argument is "Im saying that kondrah is a good guy". He made thousand of dollars on top of an existinf open source project and now that he is tired you want us to call him a hero because he decided to go 10% open with a dev version? Cut off the bullshit. If he wanted the good of the community he would help since day 1, not make all profit possible then play hero on us. Lol
Your defending a toxic guy with 0 reasonable arguments, only the "he is good believe me" speech. I have no other answer to you than making jokes about your blind devotion, that's not being toxic just pointing out in a funny way all that pitiful behaviour of yours.
 

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THIS!
This is why I'm here. Because all of you are clueless, you have no idea at all about v8 situation and who kondrah is.
Developer Edition came to life only for ONE reason. Everyone that bought sources DISAGREED when kondrah wanted to go FULLY open source. DE was the only way to get close to open source without making his clients fight him (maybe even sue).
Okay, maybe you're right. However, with 0 transparency do you really expect people to behave differently once all things are considered? Do you not think that maybe this 'hate' situation was entirely self inflicted? You act like you know more than everyone else, maybe you do but don't take it out on us for being ignorant of information that doesn't exist or at least has had no effort of being publicised.

Edit: do take it out on the actual toxic people, i don't agree with the hate some people put forward.
 

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Well your argument is "Im saying that kondrah is a good guy". He made thousand of dollars on top of an existinf open source project and now that he is tired you want us to call him a hero because he decided to go 10% open with a dev version? Cut off the bullshit. If he wanted the good of the community he would help since day 1, not make all profit possible then play hero on us. Lol
Your defending a toxic guy with 0 reasonable arguments, only the "he is good believe me" speech. I have no other answer to you than make jokes about your blind devotion, that's not being toxic just pointing out a funny fact of your shameful behaviour.
Kondrah have all the rights to do what he does, blame edubart for choosing OTC license and allowing this.
He started with closed source, made some money out of it (nothing wrong with that) and then wanted to give it for free but couldn't because his clients (which are a part of this open source community) prevented him.
I have never said that kondrah is a hero or wanted the best for this community, but sure, read between lines and throw more bullshit at me.

You act like you know more than everyone else, maybe you do but don't take it out on us for being ignorant of information that doesn't exist or at least has had no effort of being publicised.
I know more because I bothered trying v8 and contacting kondrah when I needed help or custom source modifications (before Developer Edition). He helped me multiple times, added custom stuff without asking for a single penny. No one here tried that because they still have opinion based on that drama from the day when v8 was announced here. Even I was against him and v8, there are my posts that clearly say that, now I'm glad I actually gave it a shot.

I care more about OTCv8 reputation rather than kondrah, honestly. I know what person he is, I know he doesn't deserve this hate but he won't be here all the time and v8 will be in our hands at some point, it will fail if people won't give it a try because of kondrah's decisions.
 
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Holy fuck, i told on first topic to don't bring otcv8 here and here i'm reading 10 posts about this shit...
Every topic i search about otc there are a lot of kondra fakes/bootlicker
I don't know kondra and none of you here

For me as a not custom ot player it could fit, but a marketed project did by fixing a other free open project shouldn't be relevant for the community, imagine if people do the same thing to on RME for example...

We would not have a OT community, anyways fuck it, i'm not here to convince anyone of anything

My point was why otclient fork was not in edubard repo?
Why mehas changes was not on edubard repo?
Why there is not only main OTClient, instead of 3?

Why RME was 1 repo, tfs 1 repo but OTC 3?
 
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