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What should i care when buy a VPS?

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I did a server for years, just local, full custom, now i want to open to the world to test this, max 50/100

I saw in other topics that map is important, so my map size is: 55mb

I test on my local linux and it was using 870mb/ram before i open the sever, then after open it starts to use 2800mb
So my server eat something like 2gb/ram
Could i take a 3gb ram VPS or when there is more players it will use more ram? (i say 3gb instead of 2gb because of the webserver/website)

I would like to save money as much as possible, cause i have no job and brazilian coin is not valued at all

What else should i take a look?
There are good cheap company's?
 
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Firstly to the resources you need. Yeah a bit more RAM than 2GB would be good. The webserver will basically not need any, so don't worry about that. But you will grow and you don't want to move every 2 months. That's just a pain.
You will want to look for a provider with cheap second options as well. If you grow to a respectable point, you will want to use at least 2, ideally 3 or more servers. Those should always be with the same provider. So having this look in the future is important.

Hetzner is definitely one of the top providers in Europe. Mostly targeted at professional services, but also offers a great variety of servers fit for private and small projects (kinda the category of most OTs). Personally, it is definitely my favorite...
Hetzner is alright and cheap, but only has European locations.


The CX21 model should be fine for the time being, and for 5 bucks a month you can't really go wrong.
 
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Firstly to the resources you need. Yeah a bit more RAM than 2GB would be good. The webserver will basically not need any, so don't worry about that. But you will grow and you don't want to move every 2 months. That's just a pain.
You will want to look for a provider with cheap second options as well. If you grow to a respectable point, you will want to use at least 2, ideally 3 or more servers. Those should always be with the same provider. So having this look in the future is important.

Hetzner is definitely one of the top providers in Europe. Mostly targeted at professional services, but also offers a great variety of servers fit for private and small projects (kinda the category of most OTs). Personally, it is definitely my favorite one. I used it for years and was only forced to change because of a dispute between discord and hetzner after which discord banned all Hetzner IPs. It was a dumb child fight. Hetzner was most likely in the right, but discord had the upper hand. So yeah... that happened. 2 kids not willing to agree and punishing both their customers in the end.

You should always consider other options as well.

There is also Contabo. I'd say mostly for private projects or clouds. It is by far the cheapest option. But there is a reason for that. They really overpopulate their VPS alot. To a point where another customer on the same hardware can influence your resources and cause high cpu wait times. This again would result in lags in Tibia. But you may be lucky.

For a few years now I have been with NetCup. Never had any problems. DDoS handling and communication with the provider due to this was great and quick to sort out. Only happened once, after that we took stricter measures and no problems since. Pretty cheap for what you get and a good management system in case you need it or fuck up at some point.

And then there is the always suggested OVH on OTLand. My suggestion here: Don't. Just don't. It is not a good suggestion.
Also stay away from the OTLand offer for server hosting. Not only is it a really bad deal, but there is also alot of questionable and partially illegal shit going on in the background as many posts have shown.
 
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And then there is the always suggested OVH on OTLand. My suggestion here: Don't. Just don't. It is not a good suggestion.
Also stay away from the OTLand offer for server hosting. Not only is it a really bad deal, but there is also alot of questionable and partially illegal shit going on in the background as many posts have shown.

Could you elaborate on both of your points here please
 
Could you elaborate on both of your points here please
I will not elaborate on the OTLand hosting service as this is an entire thread on its own. Going through the threads and support section will give you a general idea already though. For the rest some basic knowledge and a little research is all that is needed. Maybe I will get around to making this a topic at some point, but I doubt it. I would want to do this right with listing sources and references so...
As for OVH: You can find many posts of me stating my reasons for this whenever I see it suggested as "the only true option".
It is a good hosting service, no question. Just not for OT servers. It is aimed at the professional sector and not a single OT fulfills the requirements for this. It is totally overkill and way too expensive for what any OT required or uses in the end. Maybe it was the only good option a while ago. But time moves on even if the OT community doesn't. Plus I doubt that as services as Hetzner are quite old as well. But I can't know for sure. This is just speculation.
There is no reason to spend this kind of money on services you don't actually use. You get more than twice the hardware with everything you need for the same price at other providers.
In general my advice is: Do your research. Don't simply rely on some random guy on the Internet. For all you know what I say might be total bullshit. Just google and figure it out yourself. It's not wrong to ask for opinions or general advice, but in the end it is your decision and you should make an informed one instead of blindly believing some idiot.
 
I disagree when someone says OVH is expensive. I've running projects in all sorts of VPN machines, if you route them you'd pretty much ending at Digital Ocean, OVH, Amazon, Azure and Google Cloud at the end, the companies are basically reselling machines.

What they don't tell you:
  • Digital Ocean: probably the cheapest option here, but in OT World you need something reliable and digital ocean doesn't offer what you need unless you really know how to protect yourself. They also will shutdown your machine if you get ddos.
  • Amazon: RUN AWAY! Hidden taxes everywhere, they won't shut you down but if you get ddosed you'll pay for it. And you'll must likely ending up closing your server to avoid bankrupcy. My 20$ machine at AWS usually costs me ~70$ a month because of such hidden taxes.
  • Azure: never tried, but it's very expensive. Probably less than amazon but to see the total value in front of you puts anyone away.
  • GCloud: Probably one of the best options, it's expensive too but less than azure and amazon but it has a lot of restrictions. If you want to do things on your own and try advanced things they won't let you. Simple things like changing user name are simply impossible to be done.
  • OVH: Not only they are among the cheapest options here, they offer a lot of things without charging any extra. I'm talking especifically regarding DDOS control. They can handle A LOT, honestly if do your homework you won't ever get ddosed. It's very realiable and their support is good.

DDOS is important because the community grew into anarcho-capitalism, if someone fear you're getting many players they will try to fuck you up.
Exploiting known website failures in those myACC and TFS itself is very common among owners who want to ruin competitors, DDOS should come second when those don't work.
 
Ugh, I was really hoping not having to start this again. But here we go...
Yes, many of the servers are routing to huge companies (a lot more than the ones you mentioned) due to reselling. That does not matter!
First, you need to understand that different services target different groups. That's the fundamental basis no one here seems to understand.
The Services from Amazon AWS, Microsoft Azure, and Google GCloud are scalable. This has huge advantages in certain areas. Not only for the commonly known ones like big multiplayer games or streaming services but also for scientific calculations for example. It can also be a lot cheaper in those areas, however, it does require you to have a huge fluctuation in needed capacity and huge demands in general.
Digital Ocean is a bit of a special case. With certain options others don't provide as a service. Not having to manage kubernetes yourself for example would be nice. It can be quite the pain. But in the end aimed at professional customers as well.
OVH: I don't understand how you think it would be cheap. Yeah, it's the cheapest one you suggested. But your sample size is quite small and not really a good comparison. Again: You do not need most services they offer. You are right, you don't have to do additional payments. You pay what you see. You simply pay for everything. Too bad you don't need everything. That's such a bad argument. "I don't have any hidden costs, I get a lot" Yeah, but you don't need it...
OVH is aimed at professional services. Open Tibia does not fit in this domain, no matter how commercialized OTs are today. It is not big enough. By far.
I have yet to see a rational argument for OVH being cheap and being the best service. Please convince me. Because I don't understand this. Everyone I asked so far said "because everyone else here says it, so it must be true" What? Really? Idiots... (Yeah now I am not rational anymore, it simply annoys the fuck out of me)
I'm talking especifically regarding DDOS control. They can handle A LOT, honestly if do your homework you won't ever get ddosed. It's very realiable and their support is good.
Ok, do you have any comparisons? Because I do. As I mentioned already. We had multiple DDoS but only one strong one that even needed our provider to intervene. You will NOT be behind protection at any time at any hosting service. It will not happen. It is very expensive to do so. They will move you there whenever you do get attacked. They will contact you in case the attack is strong. I have experienced this with multiple providers, including a direct reseller of OVH. Of course, the protection with different services will vary. But in the end, it is your responsibility. They will not save you. They will kick you out if it is going too far.
Don't be blind. Don't be naive. They want to profit, not give you the best service at any price.
Exploiting known website failures in those myACC and TFS itself is very common among owners who want to ruin competitors, DDOS should come second when those don't work.
You need to understand that DDoS is a very general term. It isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. Nowadays this includes a variety of attacks. Many of which can be very service-specific and not detectable when it comes to a niche like Tibia.
Yes, you need to protect yourself proactively. But relying on a hosting service? Hui... That's risky... Would not recommend. At least not solely (but I guess you didn't mean that anyway). There is a lot more you can and must do. Some of the big servers actually are at OVH (stating it themselves) and do have obvious issues with DDoS attacks. In the end, they had to build their own protection, which nowadays (in simple terms) consists of servers and hardware firewalls in front of the actual service. You do the math.

I say it again: Do your research. Don't simply rely on some random guy on the Internet. For all you know what I say might be total bullshit. Just google and figure it out yourself. It's not wrong to ask for opinions or general advice, but in the end it is your decision and you should make an informed one instead of blindly believing some idiot.
 
I will not elaborate on the OTLand hosting service as this is an entire thread on its own. Going through the threads and support section will give you a general idea already though. For the rest some basic knowledge and a little research is all that is needed. Maybe I will get around to making this a topic at some point, but I doubt it. I would want to do this right with listing sources and references so...
As for OVH: You can find many posts of me stating my reasons for this whenever I see it suggested as "the only true option".
It is a good hosting service, no question. Just not for OT servers. It is aimed at the professional sector and not a single OT fulfills the requirements for this. It is totally overkill and way too expensive for what any OT required or uses in the end. Maybe it was the only good option a while ago. But time moves on even if the OT community doesn't. Plus I doubt that as services as Hetzner are quite old as well. But I can't know for sure. This is just speculation.
There is no reason to spend this kind of money on services you don't actually use. You get more than twice the hardware with everything you need for the same price at other providers.
In general my advice is: Do your research. Don't simply rely on some random guy on the Internet. For all you know what I say might be total bullshit. Just google and figure it out yourself. It's not wrong to ask for opinions or general advice, but in the end it is your decision and you should make an informed one instead of blindly believing some idiot.
If you won't elaborate then you shouldn't really be saying anything at all then, same goes for asking me to search for my own evidence. You can't make claims and then ask people to research them, that's your job since you're making the claim. Don't make claims if you aren't going to back them up.

If you don't want people to rely on "some random guy on the internet" then you should stop being that guy and stop making statements "on the internet".
 
@Merrok I understand the root of your comment, but the rest of it simply doesn't make sense.
I agreed that people should be doing their homework and researching and testing on their own, but many people in OT community live in third world contries, most of players are from South America and with the economy going down spending even 10$ to test a VPN might be too much.

OVH: I don't understand how you think it would be cheap. Yeah, it's the cheapest one you suggested. But your sample size is quite small and not really a good comparison. Again: You do not need most services they offer. You are right, you don't have to do additional payments. You pay what you see. You simply pay for everything. Too bad you don't need everything. That's such a bad argument. "I don't have any hidden costs, I get a lot" Yeah, but you don't need it...
OVH is aimed at professional services. Open Tibia does not fit in this domain, no matter how commercialized OTs are today. It is not big enough. By far.
My claims are supported by my own personal experience, but I gave you indications on why I have those claims. If 95% of hosting machines are from 4~5 companies I can't expand my range of data, the rest is simply reselling so there's people winning something on behind, which means more costs.

Unfortunately there's no such thing as "hosting for non professional services", unless you're hosting at your own house. Every hosting company treats it seriously, I don't follow your rationale.


Ok, do you have any comparisons? Because I do. As I mentioned already. We had multiple DDoS but only one strong one that even needed our provider to intervene. You will NOT be behind protection at any time at any hosting service. It will not happen. It is very expensive to do so. They will move you there whenever you do get attacked. They will contact you in case the attack is strong. I have experienced this with multiple providers, including a direct reseller of OVH. Of course, the protection with different services will vary. But in the end, it is your responsibility. They will not save you. They will kick you out if it is going too far.
Don't be blind. Don't be naive. They want to profit, not give you the best service at any price.
I'd love to hear more about your comparisons or experience with OVH as this seems to be driving this bad feedback. Depending on the size of the attack even Google will sucumb, the thing is that OVH blocks most of layer 4~7 attacks which will be more than enough for the kind of people we have in the community, unless Don Danielo itself puts all his machines to attack you.
I agree when you say it's users responsability, but most of people setting up a server are layman to the subject. Considering this opting for an alternative that already gives you basic ground checked on protection is still a best alternative.

I knew a guy that was able to take down several sites, including otland and others sites. He even took down a porn site in Brazil which is very famous. He took my server down in a couple of seconds, even with my firewall rules, iptables and so on. He especifically told me as of this point THE ONLY SERVERS HE COULDN'T TAKE DOWN are the OVH, because of their load balancer.
Ofc if you have a bad architecture, OVH only won't be enough and you might need additional protection. Exploiters will run detailed scans in your website and try to exploit the fact that many people use the same host for both web and server to exhaust resources and kill your server.

I think by the end you are misunderstanding the echo you have been hearing, when people say "Go to OVH" they are simply repeating a good and reliable option for end users who doesn't have that much background. It's fine that you have this background, but you are not special because of this, and all of this 'do your research, don't trust others' it's sort of true, but let's not fall into the stupidity that some people use this as an argument to challenge stablished things like gravity, vaccines and earth not being flat. OVH is good, it gives you a fair price and offers free DDOs protection for low-mid attacks which I haven't seen ANY other host offers so far. Many people have avoided attacks simply by moving to it.
 
On my experience, I used to have OVH with a cheap VPS service, but it works well for NA, Mexico, Venezuela...

I'm from Chile and I felt the lag because of the distance. My tip is, if you're planning to host for latin-america (Chile, Argentina, Peru, etc...) this options worked well for me Grupo ZGH | Web Hosting, VPS, Dedicados, Housing | Datacenter Chile (https://www.zgh.cl/). Also I been noticed that SSD Cloud Server en Linux y Windows | OpenCloud Chile (https://www.opencloud.cl/) is a good option for this region.

If you're going for Brazil, hire a VPS located there. Dont know much about thoose.

Hope this helps, regards!
 
If you won't elaborate then you shouldn't really be saying anything at all then, same goes for asking me to search for my own evidence. You can't make claims and then ask people to research them, that's your job since you're making the claim. Don't make claims if you aren't going to back them up.

If you don't want people to rely on "some random guy on the internet" then you should stop being that guy and stop making statements "on the internet".
What? I gave you a good reason why I won't ^^
You have to understand that making specific claims and not backing them up with references is stupid in general and on a website with the same owner... yeah...
So I don't go into specifics in public. You are right, I shouldn't make any claims at all then. But do I need to list sources for why right now cuddling with 50 random people might not be the best idea? Or will you just take it and look up yourself why? Then again, maybe you will attack me on this and just do it.
Also, I simply don't want to put in the effort. I'm sorry but my life is not OTLand ^^
As for "some random guy on the internet". I put myself in the argument to show that I am not excluding myself. You should always do your own research and use your brain. You act as if it was my job to do this for you. To be fair, we gotta be careful as @Night Wolf said. But then again if you do your research right wrong information should not convince you.
many people in OT community live in third world contries, most of players are from South America and with the economy going down spending even 10$ to test a VPN might be too much.
I totally agree, which is why OVH is not a good option here ^^
And honestly, for anyone still in education that might even be a bit much.

But there are a bit more than 4~5 providers. A lot more actually. And there is also colocation.
Unfortunately there's no such thing as "hosting for non professional services", unless you're hosting at your own house. Every hosting company treats it seriously, I don't follow your rationale.
Yeah there isn't the way you phrase it right now. Of course, they all treat you seriously and professionally. It would be a problem if they wouldn't. But there is a difference between offering a service like Reddit and OTLand. Small difference here. Very small. :p
unless Don Danielo itself puts all his machines to attack you.
But that was one of my points, DDoS nowadays is not just hammering a server anymore. But yeah in those terms (and Don is not a good example here because this is still small shit) there are better and worse systems. Of course. Some put you behind the protection faster, some slower. It is for their own protection as well though. And of course, some are gonna have more consequences than others. I cannot say for sure what is better and what is worse. Though maybe there are tests for this out there, but I don't care enough to look it up tbh :p (Making me attackable here again, I bet someone is gonna pick up on this and say "why do you say anything then" because there are lines i draw... it's irrational, so?)
Anyway, you won't be behind protection all the time. And the problem is that you aren't immune just because you are with OVH. There are enough ways to still DDoS you and I have heard of bigger OT servers (no, not stating names) that had to implement their own (very expensive) solution to deal with it while being at OVH.
I agree when you say it's users responsability, but most of people setting up a server are layman to the subject. Considering this opting for an alternative that already gives you basic ground checked on protection is still a best alternative.
Very true, but does a beginner really need such a strong and expensive service? I see the conflict there. No experience so should get support wheels. But at any price? And does a small bike need support wheels the size of a truck? I don't think so. It's not like you can't upgrade later. You can move even if it is a hassle and you will need to put a few hours into it. If you do it right, you only have a downtime of about 5-15min though.
I knew a guy that was able to take down several sites, including otland and others sites. He even took down a porn site in Brazil which is very famous. He took my server down in a couple of seconds, even with my firewall rules, iptables and so on. He especifically told me as of this point THE ONLY SERVERS HE COULDN'T TAKE DOWN are the OVH, because of their load balancer.
That is kind of out of context and I would love to know the whole story, all "numbers" and how they got to be. But It may very well be for him. I am very curious if he could take down our infrastructure (not with OVH). Firewall rules, iptables, and so on will only protect you from small script kiddies though. As soon as the kiddie has advanced knowledge, this will be much less effective.
Load balancers are normal with all providers. But see above for the rest. There are better and worse, you just need to find the correct balance.
I think by the end you are misunderstanding the echo you have been hearing, when people say "Go to OVH" they are simply repeating a good and reliable option for end users who doesn't have that much background.
I totally agree with you here. But it is still not a rational opinion and not based on numbers ^^
And I am sure the service is great. I just don't see the price being justified for OTservers.
OVH is good, it gives you a fair price and offers free DDOs protection for low-mid attacks which I haven't seen ANY other host offers so far. Many people have avoided attacks simply by moving to it.
It definitely is a good service and a fair price if you use all the options included. But are you sure they couldn't have avoided attacks otherwise? And if so, how do you know?


I think in the end we just have a very different view of expensive. For me 6€ for a 1 core, 2GB RAM server is very expensive as I can get a much better offer for twice the resources. Maybe that's also because the resources I require are not "a few GB of RAM and some processing power" but rather (currently) 8 servers, each with at least 32GB RAM and 6-10 cores. And all of them are root servers since vServers have one specific disadvantage (shared resources) you cannot really effort from a certain size on anymore. So it adds up fast.

I don't even know why I bother. Probably because I don't like one service being praised as the only true one and the only real option. I mean... It's bullshit. And anytime I say "why not consider this or that" I am being attaked with "NO, ONLY OVH. YOU ARE WRONG. THERE ARE NO OTHERS."
Ok fine :(
 
TFS is monocore and takes up to 1.3gb ram. 6$ it's the bare minimum you can pay for hosting a server. Any other provider will offer you something either worse than that, or that costs more (up to 15$). Besides all this they offer you a very realiable load balancer and they will auto redirect many attacks to a different server to avoid you being impacted >> FOR FREE <<.

I cannot see downsides for using OVH, especially if you don't know what you're doing.
OFC, if you have a company built on top of your game, if your income relies on that.. IT'S A MUST to invest further in protection, regardless on what you already have.

I don't know the name of this guy though, I used to call him 'Flecha' (Arrow in portuguese). He used to randomly appears in a discord sv I'm on and start nuking any site people sent to him. He didn't seemed like a random kid with scripts, and he had resources and knowledge to take down several robust websites. The nickname was because how fast he managed to take websites down... to be honest I don't really think he has anything to do with OTs, he just lurked our community and from time to time.
 
Any other provider will offer you something either worse than that, or that costs more (up to 15$).
Where did you get that information from? A simple comparison of a few providers will show you the exact opposite.
I just did, sadly I couldn't find the exact CPU model OVH uses in their vServers. But other than that, I get the same RAM, amount of cores and a better network connection for half the price with NetCup or Hetzner. Ionos offers better resources for a little less than OVH. You get 4 times the capacity for less money with strato and Contabo. That was only by looking at the first results in google for a few minutes. Yes, there is more to account for that just the hardware, but that was what you were about right? And even if not, not taking something completely cheap like Contabo (stated the reasons for this and my experience earlier) will give you a more than just decent service that will most likely satisfy more than all the needs for most OT servers.
Everyone can rent wherever they want, but don't do so blindly. And don't make such wrong claims...
Besides all this they offer you a very realiable load balancer and they will auto redirect many attacks to a different server to avoid you being impacted >> FOR FREE <<.
Well it's not "FOR FREE". You do pay for it. it's just within your monthly costs. As is with most others. You will always pay for it somehow :)
And again: It is standard today to have such precautions and offer them to your customers by default. They just aren't all of the same quality, that is true.

What you write rather sounds like advertising. I think I said this to you before lol.
As I said, I am not claiming they are not good, I am simply claiming most OTs and definitely someone starting can do with a cheaper offer and doesn't need all of this.

I don't know the name of this guy though, I used to call him 'Flecha' (Arrow in portuguese). He used to randomly appears in a discord sv I'm on and start nuking any site people sent to him. He didn't seemed like a random kid with scripts, and he had resources and knowledge to take down several robust websites. The nickname was because how fast he managed to take websites down... to be honest I don't really think he has anything to do with OTs, he just lurked our community and from time to time.
It was more of a joke anyways ^^ It would be interesting, but meh.
 
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@binny will need 4 GB VPS and it costs 5 EUR :(
He is from Brazil, so cheap spanish servers will be interesting ONLY, if this already works (brazil-spain fiber connection): Map - EllaLink (https://ella.link/network/map/)

Virtual Private Servers | Quality VPS at Incredible Price | Contabo (https://contabo.com/en/vps/) is cheaper [still 5 EUR, but 8 GB ram] and they got datacenter in US.
 
@binny will need 4 GB VPS and it costs 5 EUR :(
He is from Brazil, so cheap spanish servers will be interesting ONLY, if this already works (brazil-spain fiber connection): Map - EllaLink (https://ella.link/network/map/)

Virtual Private Servers | Quality VPS at Incredible Price | Contabo (https://contabo.com/en/vps/) is cheaper [still 5 EUR, but 8 GB ram] and they got datacenter in US.
they have datacenter in the US too apart from europe not only spain =) but actually contabo is better because they give some little support against ddos
 
Hetzner is alright and cheap, but only has European locations.


The CX21 model should be fine for the time being, and for 5 bucks a month you can't really go wrong.

European severs give a bad ping to br players and i think they will be the majority


Firstly to the resources you need. Yeah a bit more RAM than 2GB would be good. The webserver will basically not need any, so don't worry about that. But you will grow and you don't want to move every 2 months. That's just a pain.
You will want to look for a provider with cheap second options as well. If you grow to a respectable point, you will want to use at least 2, ideally 3 or more servers. Those should always be with the same provider. So having this look in the future is important.

Hetzner is definitely one of the top providers in Europe. Mostly targeted at professional services, but also offers a great variety of servers fit for private and small projects (kinda the category of most OTs). Personally, it is definitely my favorite one. I used it for years and was only forced to change because of a dispute between discord and hetzner after which discord banned all Hetzner IPs. It was a dumb child fight. Hetzner was most likely in the right, but discord had the upper hand. So yeah... that happened. 2 kids not willing to agree and punishing both their customers in the end.

You should always consider other options as well.

There is also Contabo. I'd say mostly for private projects or clouds. It is by far the cheapest option. But there is a reason for that. They really overpopulate their VPS alot. To a point where another customer on the same hardware can influence your resources and cause high cpu wait times. This again would result in lags in Tibia. But you may be lucky.

For a few years now I have been with NetCup. Never had any problems. DDoS handling and communication with the provider due to this was great and quick to sort out. Only happened once, after that we took stricter measures and no problems since. Pretty cheap for what you get and a good management system in case you need it or fuck up at some point.

And then there is the always suggested OVH on OTLand. My suggestion here: Don't. Just don't. It is not a good suggestion.
Also stay away from the OTLand offer for server hosting. Not only is it a really bad deal, but there is also alot of questionable and partially illegal shit going on in the background as many posts have shown.

I just have to look at RAM?

This change stuff can be painful, but €1 is almost R$7

NetCup have only EUR servers too?

OVH was too expensive for me, i would have to pay the €10 one

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They offer an EUA VPS 8GB ram for €6
Have u ever use this?


I disagree when someone says OVH is expensive. I've running projects in all sorts of VPN machines, if you route them you'd pretty much ending at Digital Ocean, OVH, Amazon, Azure and Google Cloud at the end, the companies are basically reselling machines.

What they don't tell you:
  • Digital Ocean: probably the cheapest option here, but in OT World you need something reliable and digital ocean doesn't offer what you need unless you really know how to protect yourself. They also will shutdown your machine if you get ddos.
  • Amazon: RUN AWAY! Hidden taxes everywhere, they won't shut you down but if you get ddosed you'll pay for it. And you'll must likely ending up closing your server to avoid bankrupcy. My 20$ machine at AWS usually costs me ~70$ a month because of such hidden taxes.
  • Azure: never tried, but it's very expensive. Probably less than amazon but to see the total value in front of you puts anyone away.
  • GCloud: Probably one of the best options, it's expensive too but less than azure and amazon but it has a lot of restrictions. If you want to do things on your own and try advanced things they won't let you. Simple things like changing user name are simply impossible to be done.
  • OVH: Not only they are among the cheapest options here, they offer a lot of things without charging any extra. I'm talking especifically regarding DDOS control. They can handle A LOT, honestly if do your homework you won't ever get ddosed. It's very realiable and their support is good.

DDOS is important because the community grew into anarcho-capitalism, if someone fear you're getting many players they will try to fuck you up.
Exploiting known website failures in those myACC and TFS itself is very common among owners who want to ruin competitors, DDOS should come second when those don't work.

But there is 2GB/RAM = 5,00 €
And 4GB/RAM = 10,00 €

There is no 3GB/RAM or i don't found, and looks like i need a little bit more then 2GB
And for me this 10,00€/mouth is too much (12,30 € with final tax)
 
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