Complaint Why is free speech dead?

[Phantom22]

Dear Phantom22,

You have received a warning at OtLand.

Reason:
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Offensive language

Watch your mouth, insults won't do anything good.
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Original Post:
http://otland.net/f15/why-free-spee...ad-165049/f251/what-happened...0/#post1590330
Are you that blind, neon came on here flaming us... and I responded to deflate his ego, sometimes I wonder about how people precieve things on the internet or whether they have any social graces what so ever. I said it once and I will say it again Im out i got too much work todo to sit and flame back and fourth, neons being jerk end of story anyone that can put someone down for asking for help is a bully in my eyes. Thats what these forums are for to help. just take it for what its worth I am sure neon is a good dude, but hes disgruntled and i would be too if i spent a year making a custom server and never got to see it reach full fruition because of a frank farmers release that basically saturated the open tibia community these are all true but whats also true is neons a dick and he shouldn't be putting anybody down. Life's too short to get caught up in the trolls so imma do it for the lawls and go back to work. see ya boys
Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,
OtLand


Let's examine this thread very carefully and look at how many times neon insulted any person who was,
1. New to the forums
2. asked for help with scripts or any advice
3. Didnt think the way he did
4. Has/owns a RL map server

Now lets examine my warning. I clearly was rebutting against his post making a logical argument which is what his thread was "an argument thread about how much he basically hates all of otland and the open tibia community"

And then Xenios warns me and starts deleting posts including a newer member that seen the injustice in his moderating.

I am not looking for sympathy, just understanding. I have seen multiple released data-packs with databases and i have seen mods support this behavior, I really would like some answers why people can't speak there mind even in a constructive manner.

I also would like to request the warning be withdrawn because I feel it was not just. The entire warning screams hypocrisy.


Thank you.

 

[Phantom22]

The moral of this thread here is, take it to feedback and just get more negative feedback. "Hey go into our corner so we can all take turns punching you in the face for not obeying our law"

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for cryin' out loud, we aren't ganging up on you -.-'

we are simply standing for what we think its right, you happen to disagree, fine by me, just agree to disagree and move on?
also, this whole thing started because Neon said "FUCK THE NEW OPEN-TIBIA KIDS!"? Please, are you really offended to read something people call each other on a daily basis all around the world nowadays?

im offended because i got a warning for sticking up for myself and anyone new on your forums.

 

[Peroxide]

The moral of this thread is a complaint about your warning you recieved.

 

[Evan]

Phantom22, the reason why you're getting hit is because you took it here and started complaining about it.
If Neon had done the same thing, he'd make a big fool of himself too.

 

[Phantom22]

Phantom22, the reason why you're getting hit is because you took it here and started complaining about it.
If Neon had done the same thing, he'd make a big fool of himself too.

Xenios told meto take it here, i was obeying the moderators request... is there something wrong with that?

 

[Xenios]

You can stand up for yourself without direct insults. And everyone who is new will get punished for standing up for themselves? You really believe that or are you just making it look huge?

 

[Neon]

Phantom22... I recieved a warning too.. People arn't "ganging up on you", I admit my language was very nasty in the other thread, but I got an warning, just like you... I insulted people, not rly, but the ones that took it offensive (got a warning for it). And you insulted me (got a warning for it). What more do you want to be said?

 

[Phantom22]

That wasn't a direct insult, there were about 50 words before that and they were carefully planned. I really didnt think saying dick once in there would yield a warning considering the vast amount of foul language you exhibited in your entire thread.

would you rather me say hes being a richard?

 

[Neon]

You said that "Neon is a dick", not that I care but it is direct insulting.

 

[Peroxide]

but whats also true is neons a dick and he shouldn't be putting anybody down.

You wouldn't take that as a direct insult?

 

[Phantom22]

FUCK ALL NEW TIBIA KIDS, a general insult to anybody thats new??? whos gunna fight for them? I apologies if my detest for such lunacy inst welcomed here.

I like new tibia kids i want more people to join the forums and download maps and start making more OTS because the more the merrier thats how communities grow...

I am sure when someone new signs up they really wanna be reading that there all fuckers and shouldn't belong here.

Do you really not see the problem in neons statements??? and secondly you can stand for such craziness??


How can the mods sit idlely by and watch servers get hacked and peoples work get released yet I can't call someone a richard for insulting every new kid that signs up and wants to belong...

 

[Neon]

FUCK ALL NEW TIBIA KIDS, a general insult to anybody thats new??? whos gunna fight for them?

Report it if you are offended, I hope I get infracted.

 

[Xenios]

Xenios told meto take it here, i was obeying the moderators request... is there something wrong with that?

I didn't order you to post it here, I said if you want/like, this is what I said you on your profile page:

If you want to talk about this then do it here, via a pm or in the feedback thread.

 

[Havocbringer]

I can feel it.. the power of the force...
The power of thread removal.. it is coming.. very soon my young padawongs.

 

[Santi]

FUCK ALL NEW TIBIA KIDS, a general insult to anybody thats new??? whos gunna fight for them? I apologies if my detest for such lunacy inst welcomed here.

Fight? This is not a war, this isn't "oldies" against "newbies", it's just an user saying what he thinks about it, not liek someone new is gonna enter, see that and run away.. And the guy got a warning for insulting too, isn't that enough for you?

 

[Shinmaru]

Tactical nuke, it is all over!!!
On Topic,
Simple, learn to insult with no vulgar words, trust me, no mod will bother you(unless it's offtopic). No one is against you for standing up for yourself.

 

[Phantom22]

I am sure it will get deleted too because nobody wants someone to prove a mod wrong/ stick up for themselves now do they.

 

[Peroxide]

I don't actually remember any time since I've been a mod (August 2011), shit it's been a year already guys D:
anyway, since then I don't think I've ever seen a complaint thread deleted, only closed.

 

[Neon]

Xenios did nothing wrong, so there is nothing to prove wrong. He gave us both a warning, what's wrong with that?

 

[Shinmaru]

I am sure it will get deleted too because nobody wants someone to prove a mod wrong/ stick up for themselves now do they.

Till this day I have not seen a mod delete something that proves them wrong(not even when Slurderp or Chojrak used to attack them), unless it is utterly stupid, then they will delete it.

 

[Havocbringer]

I am sure it will get deleted too because nobody wants someone to prove a mod wrong/ stick up for themselves now do they.

A simple moral that I live by: Thou shalt not insult others with vulgar language or thy should prepare thy Anus, for anal rape by a moderator.