CipSoft RealEngine 7.4 [Development Thread] – BETA Phase Incoming

[Ascendia]

I never said shit about TFS... and no, I never believed you to be using any TFS code... so what are you going on about?? Seems like you are pushing your own insecurities on to me....

I believed you to be using leaked and translated code... not TFS code, and definitely not hand rolled, reverse engineered code either, but, I had to ask to be sure, and YOU CONFIRMED THAT FOR ME!

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So stop tagging me and stop quoting me...

I basically said so as to not go off-topic or to not go in to detail and this is excatly why I've been avoiding technical questions. This is not the place for it. But to be clear, it is reverse engineered no matter of your terminology you're inaccurate in calling it translating code. The entire binary leak from CipSoft was decompiled and re-composed completely as source code that could be compiled. It now compiles and runs. It went from nothing to an entire engine.

 

[draken1]

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I didn't mean knowledge of how EXACT thing/parts of code work/should work, but overall reverse engineering knowledge how certain code would look in assembly <=> assembly would look in c++ (for example, your language choice). This is really crucial in understanding of big parts of assembly, one will look in debugger for 7 hours trying to understand what this exact code does, while other will figure it out in a hour. Knowledge as an experience I meant.

@Ascendia "it is reverse engineered no matter of your terminology you're inaccurate in calling it translating code"

then it won't be a problem to show certain parts of your reverse engineering work? i don't mean your written code, but reversed binary. I will pick a function and you'll describe the assembly here, its variables and namings and generally what the function does. It shouldn't be a problem since you have already reverse engineered binary, right?

 

[Ascendia]

I didn't mean knowledge of how EXACT thing/parts of code work/should work, but overall reverse engineering knowledge how certain code would look in assembly <=> assembly would look in c++ (for example, your language choice). This is really crucial in understanding of big parts of assembly, one will look in debugger for 7 hours trying to understand what this exact code does, while other will figure it out in a hour. Knowledge as an experience I meant.

@Ascendia "it is reverse engineered no matter of your terminology you're inaccurate in calling it translating code"

then it won't be a problem to show certain parts of your reverse engineering work? i don't mean your written code, but reversed binary. I will pick a function and you'll describe the assembly here, its variables and namings and generally what the function does. It shouldn't be a problem since you have already reverse engineered binary, right?

If you answer me this one question. What does feeding you answers give me? I'm not in need or seeking any confirmation right? Doing what you ask me takes of my valuable time that I can spend being resourceful and to what goal? Satisfy your curiousity?

For all I know you might be reverse engineering it yourself, could be stuck and want me to solve the issue for you? But I'll play along.

Here's an image of the beginning to one of the source files

https://imgur.com/iwCAKXm

and here is line 3185 in the same file.

https://imgur.com/iGIh9iQ

I'm not giving you anything more begone.

Post automatically merged: May 16, 2025

I didn't mean knowledge of how EXACT thing/parts of code work/should work, but overall reverse engineering knowledge how certain code would look in assembly <=> assembly would look in c++ (for example, your language choice). This is really crucial in understanding of big parts of assembly, one will look in debugger for 7 hours trying to understand what this exact code does, while other will figure it out in a hour. Knowledge as an experience I meant.

@Ascendia "it is reverse engineered no matter of your terminology you're inaccurate in calling it translating code"

then it won't be a problem to show certain parts of your reverse engineering work? i don't mean your written code, but reversed binary. I will pick a function and you'll describe the assembly here, its variables and namings and generally what the function does. It shouldn't be a problem since you have already reverse engineered binary, right?

Now you have your answer. Will you stop garbaging my thread?

 

[leik meris]

I hear you but I'm not here for the technical discussions. I'm not here to get any confirmation. I posted a gif where if you look closely before the engine runs, it had just compiled at the very top. I've taken a gif of every single source file.

If you ask me about the accuracy? I would say it's as close as can be. I dont want to say 100% out loud because for one I don't lie neither to others nor to myself. I am not certain so I cannot claim it. But I do believe its in its high 95+% possibly higher.

Server is stable but we've been max 3 online on it at once so I cant say there arent anything we have overlooked. What I can say is everything feels authentic as can be.

It’s great to see passion projects like this. I get that you’re not aiming for a deep technical reveal, but given how rare this kind of work is, some of us are genuinely curious about the process behind it.

If you ever feel like sharing parts of the reversing journey like which tools or approaches you used I think the community would really appreciate it, even if it’s not 100% complete or polished

 

[Terotrificy]

If you answer me this one question. What does feeding you answers give me? I'm not in need or seeking any confirmation right? Doing what you ask me takes of my valuable time that I can spend being resourceful and to what goal? Satisfy your curiousity?

For all I know you might be reverse engineering it yourself, could be stuck and want me to solve the issue for you? But I'll play along.

Here's an image of the beginning to one of the source files

https://imgur.com/iwCAKXm

and here is line 3185 in the same file.

https://imgur.com/iGIh9iQ

I'm not giving you anything more begone.

Post automatically merged: May 16, 2025

Now you have your answer. Will you stop garbaging my thread?

You're garbaging yourself, that's not your work. Let me guess, you bought it from Ezzz?

 

[Ascendia]

You're garbaging yourself, that's not your work. Let me guess, you bought it from Ezzz?

Ezz already replied to this question but I will make it simple. Ezz server is proven to carry up to 400 players without issues and has an average of 300 daily. Why WOULD i bother launching an alpha to test the stability of this engine if I had his already proven engine? It makes no sense.

Just deal with it. His engine is complete and tested. Mine is soon going through testing stages. That's it.

 

[Rawesh]

This is not Tibiara/Revol. There is absolutely no point for us to sell the sources to our live sucessful server to someone else that is trying to do exactly what we are currently doing. That would be counterintuitive for Tibiara.

However I'd like to make it clear and do point out that the sources @Ascendia obtained at first was supposed to be exclusive to me from @neptuno but he pretty much scammed us and disappeared then came back to sell it to @Ascendia so that part I am not so happy about. Despite me wishing him good luck on the project I believe that the truth has to be told.

I would also like to point out that these sources we recieved from Ryu/Neptuno were hot garbage and he was not able to fix the issues nor actually RE the functions properly. That's why we decided to scrap it and start our process from scratch.

Now I am not sure nor do I care about who is working on this project along side @Ascendia to have fixed or properly RE functions by now but if it is indeed @neptuno then well it's still gonna be hot garbage cause what he made was at best a prototype that can't be used in production. Besides who would trust a guy like that when he has already scammed several people on OTA as well? That is the truth and nothing else to it.

With all this being said I still wish @Ascendia good luck on his project cause he seems to be a decent guy just trying to provide something nice while working hard.

There is nothing more to discuss from our part (Tibiara). This thread should go back to being a server progress discussion. This has nothing to do with Tibiara and I'd like to have it stay that way.

 

[Ascendia]

This is not Tibiara/Revol. There is absolutely no point for us to sell the sources to our live sucessful server to someone else that is trying to do exactly what we are currently doing. That would be counterintuitive for Tibiara.

However I'd like to make it clear and do point out that the sources @Ascendia obtained at first was supposed to be exclusive to me from @neptuno but he pretty much scammed us and disappeared then came back to sell it to @Ascendia so that part I am not so happy about. Despite me wishing him good luck on the project I believe that the truth has to be told.

I would also like to point out that these sources we recieved from Ryu/Neptuno were hot garbage and he was not able to fix the issues nor actually RE the functions properly. That's why we decided to scrap it and start our process from scratch.

Now I am not sure nor do I care about who is working on this project along side @Ascendia to have fixed or properly RE functions by now but if it is indeed @neptuno then well it's still gonna be hot garbage cause what he made was at best a prototype that can't be used in production. Besides who would trust a guy like that when he has already scammed several people on OTA as well? That is the truth and nothing else to it.

With all this being said I still wish @Ascendia good luck on his project cause he seems to be a decent guy just trying to provide something nice while working hard.

There is nothing more to discuss from our part (Tibiara). This thread should go back to being a server progress discussion. This has nothing to do with Tibiara and I'd like to have it stay that way.

Even I decided to go with TVP instead of the initial code by Neptuno and it came on recommendation from him because he knew it was far from stable or accurate and filled with flaws. So clearly he knew the base was not solid and he was honest about it. The engine today is far different from the version we both initially received from him and it works just as intended and even has a perfect game beat. Ezz can confirm the files were heavily adjusted as i showed him a gif from winmerge of the initial and current version. If ive missed something it will appear on alpha or beta testing.

I never claimed 100% because there is no actual way of knowing. Its enough there's a > wrong or a small issue and all of a sudden its 99%.

So when I say the engine is solid it means its solid. But it is a reverse engineered engine and unknown bugs can appear but I would never claim even with 1k players online its 100% because there is no way of knowing if every detail is accurate its enough a datatype was changed in the process or an operator is wrong and so on.

For instance im certain you're not running tibiara on a 2005 linux server? Does that mean you had to update threading and by your standards Tibiara is now 99% or less? Tibiara even crashed and had multiple issues because it wasnt 100% but still it was advertised as such while receiving bug reports daily after the launch which strenghtens my point that its hard to claim 100% on this kind of work. You worked through those issues and now your server is perfect which is good and this server has to go through the same process and the hours invested need to be respected.

You mentioned to me that you care about the details well I do too. The difference between us is that i can literally find stuff people with 100 players online cant. Ive actively worked with testing for 5 years. Just debugging for hours every single day. Thats my strength and investing that skillset to have the work diminished like that was wrong. Because the people will now only take the bad you said and ignore the good and that is what bothered me with your reply as it diminished the server and now people are going to believe this engine is what you claimed it to be while countless hours has been spent since I received it to accurately translate the changes needed which was months ago. Almost every single file is different.

So while I do respect all of you on your work I dont feel that my work was respected as it substantially diminishes the servers position and that I did not see coming.

 

[neptuno]

I wasn’t planning to get involved in this, but with all the nonsense being thrown around, I feel it’s time to clear a few things up.

The source code you’re now calling “hot garbage” was the exact same base you used to get your project off the ground. You may have rewritten or refactored parts of it, and that’s totally fine — that’s how development works. But pretending you started from scratch is not only disingenuous, it’s disrespectful.

You paid for an early-stage, untested prototype. That was clearly stated up front. The deal was made, the code was delivered, and you used it. The fact that you later decided to discard or rewrite it doesn’t change the value it initially had — or that you chose to build upon it.

However I'd like to make it clear and do point out that the sources @Ascendia obtained at first was supposed to be exclusive to me from @neptuno but he pretty much scammed us and disappeared then came back to sell it to @Ascendia so that part I am not so happy about. Despite me wishing him good luck on the project I believe that the truth has to be told.

Yes, you paid for exclusive access to (and I quote literally from my ad) "an untested product, not ready to be hosted or be used in production". I did not come offering it to you, you sent someone to ask me for the price of an exclusive copy and I gave a price, and you were ok with it. I never agreed to work for you, and I want to be very clear about this: I DID NOT, NEVER EVER agree to work for (or with) you.

The one who broke the deal was you, when you did the shitty move of filing a claim on PayPal to get your money back (and ofc keep the server, because you were already using it to build your own engine). But you didn't account for your partner's own stupidity, did u? Because PayPal denied your claim without me having to provide any evidence whatsoever. You deliberately (and conviniently) ommit this part of the story. So let me be the one who set the record straight on this: Even the most buyer-biased company in the world considers that u got what u paid for, and that I delivered what I got paid for.

So, if anything, the ones who tried to pull it off on me were yourselves, so fuck no I'm not keeping my part of the deal. "Don't come to collect when you haven't paid your own dues". Regardless if paypal approved or not your claim, you still tried to shit on me.

You also conviniently ommit that I contacted Ezzz and Flupi some time ago (after you claimed that I owed you), offering to fix the engine in exchange for information on the remaining bugs, but ya'll opted to block me. First of all, I don't owe you shit. And now you come to shit on my code, after having used it to build your own thing. You would still be trying to get POSIX signals to work properly. You people didn't even know of the existance of the "hidden" try/catch blocks until Ezzz spoke to me, asking why I was pthread_kill'ing instead of kill'ing like the 2005 LinuxThreads-based engine, for Christ's sake... asking GPT what the pseudocode was doing because you ppl were fucking clueless.

So here goes a cold hard fact: There's very, very few persons in this scene who know their way around cip files the way I do. I've dedicated half a decade of my life (quite literally) to studying them in every possible way, before AIs were even a thing. I've shared with some ppl here in otland more knowledge than the entirety of what you know about cipcode. I'm the one who taught Ezzz how to port the networking and Inter-Thread-Communication scheme to current Linux, and whatever small issue that could have arisen due to my clumsy, sleepy ass will never take away all the experience I gained. Think of the stuff you were reporting to me. Exana ina making the caster visible too? Fields getting stacked on top of each other?. Stuff that required (literally) changing a 0 to a 1 or fixing the condition of a for loop, lmfao.

In the end, every single issue that u reported to me has been taken care of, and my engine holds up beautifully.

I respect @Ascendia and his project, even tho we've taken separate paths, so this is the one and last time I'll comment on his thread, and will not respond to any rubbish you decide, or not to, throw back on me.

OnTopic: Good luck.

 

[Adposatnr]

wait so that entire engine and files ezzz is proud of was build on somebody else work? I've seen ezzz asking @kay about some basic stuff here on otland so seems like he was getting rest of information directly from @neptuno xdd


this seems right in 2024 march ezzz was claiming on OTacademy that he is working on engine since month (so started around feb) month later he was asking about querymanager here on otland

from what i know he had similar issues to querymanager posted by @Iryont so prolly used his work here

and in may he claimed to have 100% cip code

kinda weird questions for somebody who RE entire engine from 0

 

[Rawesh]

I wasn’t planning to get involved in this, but with all the nonsense being thrown around, I feel it’s time to clear a few things up.

The source code you’re now calling “hot garbage” was the exact same base you used to get your project off the ground. You may have rewritten or refactored parts of it, and that’s totally fine — that’s how development works. But pretending you started from scratch is not only disingenuous, it’s disrespectful.

You paid for an early-stage, untested prototype. That was clearly stated up front. The deal was made, the code was delivered, and you used it. The fact that you later decided to discard or rewrite it doesn’t change the value it initially had — or that you chose to build upon it.



Yes, you paid for exclusive access to (and I quote literally from my ad) "an untested product, not ready to be hosted or be used in production". I did not come offering it to you, you sent someone to ask me for the price of an exclusive copy and I gave a price, and you were ok with it. I never agreed to work for you, and I want to be very clear about this: I DID NOT, NEVER EVER agree to work for (or with) you.

The one who broke the deal was you, when you did the shitty move of filing a claim on PayPal to get your money back (and ofc keep the server, because you were already using it to build your own engine). But you didn't account for your partner's own stupidity, did u? Because PayPal denied your claim without me having to provide any evidence whatsoever. You deliberately (and conviniently) ommit this part of the story. So let me be the one who set the record straight on this: Even the most buyer-biased company in the world considers that u got what u paid for, and that I delivered what I got paid for.

So, if anything, the ones who tried to pull it off on me were yourselves, so fuck no I'm not keeping my part of the deal. "Don't come to collect when you haven't paid your own dues". Regardless if paypal approved or not your claim, you still tried to shit on me.

You also conviniently ommit that I contacted Ezzz and Flupi some time ago (after you claimed that I owed you), offering to fix the engine in exchange for information on the remaining bugs, but ya'll opted to block me. First of all, I don't owe you shit. And now you come to shit on my code, after having used it to build your own thing. You would still be trying to get POSIX signals to work properly. You people didn't even know of the existance of the "hidden" try/catch blocks until Ezzz spoke to me, asking why I was pthread_kill'ing instead of kill'ing like the 2005 LinuxThreads-based engine, for Christ's sake... asking GPT what the pseudocode was doing because you ppl were fucking clueless.

So here goes a cold hard fact: There's very, very few persons in this scene who know their way around cip files the way I do. I've dedicated half a decade of my life (quite literally) to studying them in every possible way, before AIs were even a thing. I've shared with some ppl here in otland more knowledge than the entirety of what you know about cipcode. I'm the one who taught Ezzz how to port the networking and Inter-Thread-Communication scheme to current Linux, and whatever small issue that could have arisen due to my clumsy, sleepy ass will never take away all the experience I gained. Think of the stuff you were reporting to me. Exana ina making the caster visible too? Fields getting stacked on top of each other?. Stuff that required (literally) changing a 0 to a 1 or fixing the condition of a for loop, lmfao.

In the end, every single issue that u reported to me has been taken care of, and my engine holds up beautifully.

I respect @Ascendia and his project, even tho we've taken separate paths, so this is the one and last time I'll comment on his thread, and will not respond to any rubbish you decide, or not to, throw back on me.

OnTopic: Good

Lmao Im not gonna argue with you. You are banned in multiple communities cause you have scammed several people with different fully broken projects that you claimed to be perfectly working.

You are always welcome to send me the fixes and updated engine that you owe us @neptuno but you instead broke our exclusive deal and sold it to other people. You should have atleast honored that deal since you kept the money. Scumbag. You told us you couldnt fix anything cause your pc broke fully ghosting us for months, then it turns out you were working magically on another project where you scammed that guy too. How did you work without a pc?

All people have to do is search for Ryu & Neptuno and they will see the truth of his shady business.

As for OP I dont know why you are pressed, just clarify for people what you have done to improve/fix the engine and who is working with you on this project and you will be fine. It was never an attack towards you. I was just making clear that this is NOT Tibiara and where the origins of your engine came from. All you have to do is prove to us and everyone that you and your team are working on fixing/correcting the mess the engine was. Like I said in that post.

Post automatically merged: May 17, 2025

wait so that entire engine and files ezzz is proud of was build on somebody else work? I've seen ezzz asking @kay about some basic stuff here on otland so seems like he was getting rest of information directly from @neptuno xdd

At best it gave us some information yes but it is not based off of neptunos attempt at all. Like I said we had to scrap that engine and start from scratch hence why it took a year. It was a prototype at its best.

 

[Adposatnr]

At best it gave us some information yes but it is not based off of neptunos attempt at all. Like I said we had to scrap that engine and start from scratch hence why it took a year.

so its based on what? dude in 3 months reverse engineered entire cip code but struggled to solve querymanager and thats literally what was missing in neptuno's work

somebody is lying here

 

[Ezzz]

Neptunos sources are not even a correct reverse engineering attempt, they are hot garbage and it’s even filled with guessed code everywhere. It’s plain raw shit scam.

I wish the best to Ascendia on his attempts to make something good, I consider him a friend and I know he is working very hard and has passion for this like I do and I love that about him.

wait so that entire engine and files ezzz is proud of was build on somebody else work? I've seen ezzz asking @kay about some basic stuff here on otland so seems like he was getting rest of information directly from @neptuno xdd


this seems right in 2024 march ezzz was claiming on OTacademy that he is working on engine since month (so started around feb) month later he was asking about querymanager here on otland
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from what i know he had similar issues to querymanager posted by @Iryont so prolly used his work here

and in may he claimed to have 100% cip code

kinda weird questions for somebody who RE entire engine from 0

I thought that Tibiantis was a project like Revol / Tibiara, a full reverse engineer project from CipSoft source leak, but it was not, it’s pure RealOTS with hex editions (this is why Tibiara is better than Tibiantis also).

Revol took me 1.2 years and 10+- hours a day to be built, it isn’t a 3 month job, this is why Tibiara is a success because it’s the REAL THING, not a simulator or TFS with reverse engineered codes from Cip.

 

[Ascendia]

Lmao Im not gonna argue with you. You are banned in multiple communities cause you have scammed several people with different fully broken projects that you claimed to be perfectly working.

You are always welcome to send me the fixes and updated engine that you owe us @neptuno but you instead broke our exclusive deal and sold it to other people. You should have atleast honored that deal since you kept the money. Scumbag.

All people have to do is search for Ryu & Neptuno and they will see the truth of his shady business.

As for OP I dont know why you are pressed, just clarify for people what you have done to improve/fix the engine and who is working with you on this project and you will be fine. It was never an attack towards you. I was just making clear that this is NOT Tibiara and where the origins of your engine came from. All you have to do is prove to us and everyone that you and your team are working on fixing/correcting the mess the engine was. Like I said in that post.

Post automatically merged: May 17, 2025

At best it gave us some information yes but it is not based off of neptunos attempt at all. Like I said we had to scrap that engine and start from scratch hence why it took a year.

But that's just the thing Rawesh. I've many times been very outspoken in this thread that I do not come here seeking confirmation nor attention. I do not want to end up in a crossfire here since other users have been tagged aswell the next step will be escalations.

You have your perfect engine and I've many times aknowledged it and showed support for your awesome work and we can both agree on the fact that the initial engine was highly incomplete with issues nobody even knew where they began or ended as it was not made for production.

I gained access of the files without ANY awareness between the drama that's been around these files, neptuno was upfront about the stability and I decided to go with TVP not too long after but the work has continued since.

I just dont feel that this thread is the right platform to be settling personal issues with other people and that is all. I like when it's a respectful tone and I'm not much for drama. So if I can ask we stick to the requests and contents of the main post and just live and let live. We can all be proud of ourselves it sounds here. Everyone has their own engine it seems, awesome.

 

[Adposatnr]

Revol took me 1.2 years and 10+- hours a day to be built, it isn’t a 3 month job, this is why Tibiara is a success because it’s the REAL THING, not a simulator or TFS with reverse engineered codes from Cip.

somebody doing such work on his own wouldnt have problem with querymanager stuff that was missing in neptuno work is exactly the same stuff u had problems before tibiara start

 

[neptuno]

not a simulator or TFS with reverse engineered codes from Cip.

like the pile of hot garbage you sell for close to $1k and has taken an investment of more than $5k usd to get running correctly

edit: When will you implement the heartbeat fix you owe your customers and promised almost 5 months ago? Will your $1k replica actually be a replica better than Nekiro's public downgrade?

 

[Adposatnr]

like the pile of hot garbage you sell for close to $1k and has taken an investment of more than $5k usd to get running correctly

edit: When will you implement the heartbeat fix you owe your customers and promised almost 5 months ago? Will your $1k replica actually be a replica better than Nekiro's public downgrade?

answer is never dude is making 7.72 mana system on 7.4 servers on purpose peoeple will call me crazy but u cant do it by mistake 5 times in a row


and thats since 10+ years preying on people's dreams of making 7.4 vanilla servers spamming dm after evry new topic on otland with his 100% accurate copy/replica/real engine 100% bug free cheap only 800$*


*bug fixes not included

 

[Terotrificy]

Neptunos sources are not even a correct reverse engineering attempt, they are hot garbage and it’s even filled with guessed code everywhere. It’s plain raw shit scam.

I wish the best to Ascendia on his attempts to make something good, I consider him a friend and I know he is working very hard and has passion for this like I do and I love that about him.

I thought that Tibiantis was a project like Revol / Tibiara, a full reverse engineer project from CipSoft source leak, but it was not, it’s pure RealOTS with hex editions (this is why Tibiara is better than Tibiantis also).

Revol took me 1.2 years and 10+- hours a day to be built, it isn’t a 3 month job, this is why Tibiara is a success because it’s the REAL THING, not a simulator or TFS with reverse engineered codes from Cip.

I'm seriously done with those guys.

Ezzz is nothing but a pseudo developer who’s been riding the wave of public engines like OTHire, "leaked" Nostalrius, "private repo 100% bug free" Nostalrius, TVP, and god knows what else and pretending they're his own creations.
He’s been selling all of them as “100% stable” and “100% RealOTS accurate”, and every single one has eventually failed. Just ask any of the countless users who have publicly exposed the flaws and crashes in those so-called engines.

Seems like lately, he teamed up with Rawesh, who had Neptuno’s sources—real reverse engineered code from the hacked 7.7 tarball back in 2007. At some point, Neptuno disappeared, and suddenly Ezzz claims he “had to rebuild everything from scratch,” something that took Neptuno years to put together. And now, magically, Ezzz did it all in what… 3 months?
Even more absurd is how he trashes Neptuno’s work, calling it garbage, while 90% of what he has is based on that same work. It's pure hypocrisy. Just a few months ago, he was preaching about how TVP was “100% CipSoft accurate,” and now suddenly this new thing is the real one? Come on.
It's so funny that not long ago, he was asking Kay extremely basic questions about how the QueryManager works. And now we’re supposed to believe he reverse engineered the entire system and wrote his own from scratch? It's laughable to say the least.

I’ve had Neptuno’s sources for nearly 3 years. I never leaked them, never even publicy ran them, never claimed they were mine, and they are far from garbage. Sure, they’re missing code in several places and many things are off, but it’s nothing a competent developer can’t fix. The core is solid and real if you do some worksarounds.
And above all, I never pretended to own it, never went around shitting on it publicly while secretly depending on it for 90% of my own work.

It’s time someone calls this out. Anyone can just look at the code quality in his OTHire, Nostalrius, or TVP releases. It's barely functional, filled with spaghetti logic and unsafe practices. Let’s be honest—Ezzz isn’t even a competent C++ developer, let alone someone who can RE CipSoft-level code or sell to others any kind of product.

I wonder if Rawesh or any other person involved in the actual project ever saw Ezzz actually doing reverse engineering, translation or whatever you wanna name it, I wouldn't be surprised if they never did. The guy is just delusional, cynical and over all, scammer.

 

[Rawesh]

I'm seriously done with those guys.

Ezzz is nothing but a pseudo developer who’s been riding the wave of public engines like OTHire, "leaked" Nostalrius, "private repo 100% bug free" Nostalrius, TVP, and god knows what else and pretending they're his own creations.
He’s been selling all of them as “100% stable” and “100% RealOTS accurate”, and every single one has eventually failed. Just ask any of the countless users who have publicly exposed the flaws and crashes in those so-called engines.

Seems like lately, he teamed up with Rawesh, who had Neptuno’s sources—real reverse engineered code from the hacked 7.7 tarball back in 2007. At some point, Neptuno disappeared, and suddenly Ezzz claims he “had to rebuild everything from scratch,” something that took Neptuno years to put together. And now, magically, Ezzz did it all in what… 3 months?
Even more absurd is how he trashes Neptuno’s work, calling it garbage, while 90% of what he has is based on that same work. It's pure hypocrisy. Just a few months ago, he was preaching about how TVP was “100% CipSoft accurate,” and now suddenly this new thing is the real one? Come on.
It's so funny that not long ago, he was asking Kay extremely basic questions about how the QueryManager works. And now we’re supposed to believe he reverse engineered the entire system and wrote his own from scratch? It's laughable to say the least.

I’ve had Neptuno’s sources for nearly 3 years. I never leaked them, never even publicy ran them, never claimed they were mine, and they are far from garbage. Sure, they’re missing code in several places and many things are off, but it’s nothing a competent developer can’t fix. The core is solid and real if you do some worksarounds.
And above all, I never pretended to own it, never went around shitting on it publicly while secretly depending on it for 90% of my own work.

It’s time someone calls this out. Anyone can just look at the code quality in his OTHire, Nostalrius, or TVP releases. It's barely functional, filled with spaghetti logic and unsafe practices. Let’s be honest—Ezzz isn’t even a competent C++ developer, let alone someone who can RE CipSoft-level code or sell to thers any kind of product.

I wonder if Rawesh or any other person involved in the actual project ever saw Ezzz actually doing reverse engineering, translation or whatever you wanna name it, I wouldn't be surprised if they never did. The guy is just delusional, cynical and over all, scammer.

I have no reason to lie. Ezzz did RE the engine. Like I said at best he was taught some stuff from neptuno. I literally have absolutely no reason lie. I wish neptunos code would have worked otherwise we wouldnt have needed to wait a whole year to launch. It is not 3 months I dont know where you guys are getting that from, neptunos sources were purchased december 2023 iirc.

Ezzz has been nothing but exemplary for us, there is no way he can fake this shit. Its ridiculous that I even have to explain this. His past work has been based off of TFS which were OK and good but I wanted the real deal and he has delivered even more than I expected. Anyway I dont really care what people think. Tibiara speaks for itself.

Out of respect for @Ascendia we should stop discussing this or open a new thread if you guys have more questions or doubts.

 

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I have no reason to lie. Ezzz did RE the engine. Like I said at best he was taught some stuff from neptuno. I literally have absolutely no reason lie. I wish neptunos code would have worked otherwise I wouldnt have needed to wait a whole year.

Ezzz has been nothing but exemplary for us, there is no way he can fake this shit. Its ridiculous that I even have to explain this.

Out of respect for @Ascendia we should stop discussing this or open a new thread if you guys have more questions or doubts.

then why there are still 4 server saves on ur server and entire anti-bot is based off sniffing process (bypassed long time ago on other servers already?)

it looks like somebody working on tibiara isnt experinced enought to even solve crashing issues