Since your rant mainly consists of quoting me I guess I'll reply.
First, a 24 hour ban is not a warning. This would be detrimental to a server's launch, thankfully we have our own following.
Put yourself in a server owner's shoes where they launch their server, and for whatever reason trigger your "automatic banishment" that seems to work so well judging from the countless threads in the section. I wonder how many server launches your system has ruined.
I have an idea. If you can detect spoof accurately enough, why don't you just report the correct number of players, at least then you would not falsely ban servers, you would just have the wrong count. If you cannot detect accurately enough, well that's why you have so many threads.
Yes the players_online table wasn't cleared because it happens on shutdown and startup and we had a crash, it's nothing with the code, it's the process.
It was unexpected and the entire team was debugging the situation and handling communication with the community. I did not notice the online list was still cached.
I don't think that justifies a 24 hour ban as I mentioned above.
Proof that you sent a "warning"? I'm not sure we ever disputed that you sent an email. We said you banished us three times. First last year, second as this "warning" and the final ban. So yes, nice email, and thanks for including my name.
The main reason for this thread is no other complaints against you seem to go noticed. Do you think we really need to be on your list, or we need "free publicity". We've handled promoting and running campaigns already. Notice we have players before this thread.
Everything in that post of mine was truth. I don't know if you can't read, but as I said the list was cached in the database.
The "warning" ban is iffy, but okay, I was even somewhat okay with it. In the post you linked I was trying to be civil.
The final ban, however, since we decided to disable the cast system entirely took a few seconds to apply a change. We were offline for the time it took the server to boot up (as I said before the table is cleared on startup). It was cleared almost immediately. That was our last downtime, we were in your list before we went down. Later on I heard we were removed from your list.
That is a ridiculous response time for an automated ban.
The 613 was the first warning "ban". The 913 was the final ban, yes. This was definitely the illegitimate ban mentioned above.
So either you really have a flaw in your "automatic tools" or you targeted our server.
This right here is a prime example of your poor system. A server with no history and no account history gets banned automatically?
It was banned before I even had a chance to add it. We launched our beta, hit 500 players -> I attempted to add the server -> Your server is banned.
Why would you rely on this method, how is a server supposed to have a successful launch if they are banned for their success.
If your spoof detection is so accurate, rely on that, not on nonsense like this.
Our reputation is fine. I haven't talked to one person that likes you or thinks you aren't corrupt.
I don't think you would sacrifice your great cash cow server list by removing all other top servers. You need servers for people to go to your list, I doubt it would do too well, but maybe you could fit more Hexera ads that way. Why target us specifically, I don't know, it's either you feel Hexera is threatened or it really is your automatic tools and they have a serious flaw.
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Banishment was automatic and justified. They were informed almost 40h prior to banishment that their login server is breaking the rules, they were given a time to fix the problem or delete the server from the list until they fix their login server.
First, a 24 hour ban is not a warning. This would be detrimental to a server's launch, thankfully we have our own following.
Put yourself in a server owner's shoes where they launch their server, and for whatever reason trigger your "automatic banishment" that seems to work so well judging from the countless threads in the section. I wonder how many server launches your system has ruined.
I have an idea. If you can detect spoof accurately enough, why don't you just report the correct number of players, at least then you would not falsely ban servers, you would just have the wrong count. If you cannot detect accurately enough, well that's why you have so many threads.
They didn't do that, and they got automatically banned just like I warned them. What was the reason of the banishment?
Their login server was returning the last known number of players online even when they server crashed and was offline. Such server should return the information that it is offline not the last known number of players online which is totally unfair for other server owners. In the moment of the banishment they were returning 914 players online and were second on the list while their server was in fact OFFLINE.
Yes the players_online table wasn't cleared because it happens on shutdown and startup and we had a crash, it's nothing with the code, it's the process.
It was unexpected and the entire team was debugging the situation and handling communication with the community. I did not notice the online list was still cached.
I don't think that justifies a 24 hour ban as I mentioned above.
Here is a proof, screenshot of send email to Syntax:
Proof that you sent a "warning"? I'm not sure we ever disputed that you sent an email. We said you banished us three times. First last year, second as this "warning" and the final ban. So yes, nice email, and thanks for including my name.
Joshwa made a strong statement, however don't fall to his cynical game. Everything he and his team do is to make a huge buzz around the server. All he wants is free publicity. He manipulates and lies. Everything could be solved in a respectful manner, despite their fault, however he decided to go on a war. Lets start with a timeline to this war topic.
The main reason for this thread is no other complaints against you seem to go noticed. Do you think we really need to be on your list, or we need "free publicity". We've handled promoting and running campaigns already. Notice we have players before this thread.
6) Syntax answers and talks some more lies here. https://otland.net/threads/france-t...6-2016-15-00-cest.243552/page-30#post-2369658
This is a lie. Syntax answered my email however they did nothing to fix the problem and haven't deleted the server from the list to avoid banishment. He didn't send the email BEFORE they started to send fake status (Why even you think it's ok to send an email saying "we fake status don't ban us"). I was the one who started the conversation and send them a warning.
Everything in that post of mine was truth. I don't know if you can't read, but as I said the list was cached in the database.
The "warning" ban is iffy, but okay, I was even somewhat okay with it. In the post you linked I was trying to be civil.
The final ban, however, since we decided to disable the cast system entirely took a few seconds to apply a change. We were offline for the time it took the server to boot up (as I said before the table is cleared on startup). It was cleared almost immediately. That was our last downtime, we were in your list before we went down. Later on I heard we were removed from your list.
That is a ridiculous response time for an automated ban.
So you could delete the server from the list if 24h weren't enought to fix your login server. You didn't do that. You wanted a free publicity and now your whole team cries that our automatic tools banished your server. This is exactly why I've sent that warning.
Another LIE. 613 players online were in a moment when I send you a warning. WHen your server got banned you had 913 players online.
7) I haven't yet answered to this topic, I didn't say anything about keeping the banishment or ubanning. However, they started all that drama. They didn't wait for my answer, they didn't try to reach me. They started a war. That's why I think they are cynical and it's just part of their campaign.
The 613 was the first warning "ban". The 913 was the final ban, yes. This was definitely the illegitimate ban mentioned above.
So either you really have a flaw in your "automatic tools" or you targeted our server.
I believe you already know why they got banned with their live server so there is no need to repeat the text. About the beta server here comes another cynical manipulation. He mentioned that the server got automatically banned but he didn't mentin that it was unbanned THE SAME DAY after Syntax contacted me. I didn't do any problems and explained to Syntax why our system banned the server (huge number of players on the server without history added from the account without any history). More info about it is here: https://otland.net/threads/the-ox-server-pre-banned.231046/#post-2229711
And here is a screenshot of what Syntax said then about that post and whole situation:
The post is here if you want to check it: https://otland.net/threads/the-ox-server-pre-banned.231046/#post-2230138
This right here is a prime example of your poor system. A server with no history and no account history gets banned automatically?
It was banned before I even had a chance to add it. We launched our beta, hit 500 players -> I attempted to add the server -> Your server is banned.
Why would you rely on this method, how is a server supposed to have a successful launch if they are banned for their success.
If your spoof detection is so accurate, rely on that, not on nonsense like this.
I believe that your team's reputation is 0 right now and "absolutely zero proofs" turned into wall of proofs.
Our reputation is fine. I haven't talked to one person that likes you or thinks you aren't corrupt.
I didn't target any server. There were and there are numerous competitors on the list which even had higher number of players online than ox or even Hexera. Why I didn't target them? Why Thronx, Shadowcores or Gunzodus weren't banned? Because everything about that servers were ok. Why aurera, fortera, premiera are on the list? They even had or have more players online than Hexera or Hexura? Why? Because I'm totally fine about competition. It's just false accusation. Another lie in our book of lies.
I don't think you would sacrifice your great cash cow server list by removing all other top servers. You need servers for people to go to your list, I doubt it would do too well, but maybe you could fit more Hexera ads that way. Why target us specifically, I don't know, it's either you feel Hexera is threatened or it really is your automatic tools and they have a serious flaw.
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