This post is an answer to @Joshwa534's topic: https://forum.theoxserver.com/threads/xinns-corruption-discrimination.570/.
First of all I would like to say sorry for all the grammar errors in that wall of text. It would be great if you could read the whole statement - I adress there all lies from OX team who tries to do a buzz around them, divide Otland's community or even bring @Mark and otlands moderators to their drama. I believe this is a part of their planned campaign since lies&rumours about me/list or otland started prior to the start of their server. In opposition to Joshwa534 I will be posting screenshots and proofs. Not just empty words. However, if you don't have time or you simpy don't really care, here is a rather short tldr:
- OXteam really messed up, and I'm not talking about their start where oxserver should change the name to oxrestarter. Banishment was automatic and justified. They were informed almost 40h prior to banishment that their login server is breaking the rules, they were given a time to fix the problem or delete the server from the list until they fix their login server. They didn't do that, and they got automatically banned just like I warned them. What was the reason of the banishment?
Their login server was returning the last known number of players online even when they server crashed and was offline. Such server should return the information that it is offline not the last known number of players online which is totally unfair for other server owners. In the moment of the banishment they were returning 914 players online and were second on the list while their server was in fact OFFLINE.
Here is a proof, screenshot of send email to Syntax:
Joshwa made a strong statement, however don't fall to his cynical game. Everything he and his team do is to make a huge buzz around the server. All he wants is free publicity. He manipulates and lies. Everything could be solved in a respectful manner, despite their fault, however he decided to go on a war. Lets start with a timeline to this war topic.
1) OX server starts.
2) OX server crashes and sends fake information about their online status. Instead of sending that the server is offline (because it crashed) it sends that there are 613 players online.
3) I see that, deactive server for 24h and send information to @Syntax.
4) The first post from their CM here. He lies about the banishment and throws allegations on us here: https://otland.net/threads/im-banned-from-otserverlist.243915/#post-2369477.
5) I address this post here where I explain the whole situation about the banishment: https://otland.net/threads/im-banned-from-otserverlist.243915/#post-2369626
6) Syntax answers and talks some more lies here. https://otland.net/threads/france-t...6-2016-15-00-cest.243552/page-30#post-2369658
7) I haven't yet answered to this topic, I didn't say anything about keeping the banishment or ubanning. However, they started all that drama. They didn't wait for my answer, they didn't try to reach me. They started a war. That's why I think they are cynical and it's just part of their campaign.
Lets address some more lies.
And here is a screenshot of what Syntax said then about that post and whole situation:
The post is here if you want to check it: https://otland.net/threads/the-ox-server-pre-banned.231046/#post-2230138
1) You charge your players for premium/items while your deliver no content and poor stability.
2) You describe your server as 10.95 while you are missing key features such as Oramond, Roshamuul.
3) You let your players CLONE ITEMS and KEEP THEM. Yes this is funny. Your CM's bashed a guy who said that he cloned Steel Helmets. Of course EVERYONE could clone ANYTHING because of how badly you managed to handle the crashes. You didn't do a full rollback and you let your players keep cloned items. Who knows how many CCs were duped. I think every developer here knows about how it works so there is no need to go into the details. If it's needed, sure I can explain it.
First of all I would like to say sorry for all the grammar errors in that wall of text. It would be great if you could read the whole statement - I adress there all lies from OX team who tries to do a buzz around them, divide Otland's community or even bring @Mark and otlands moderators to their drama. I believe this is a part of their planned campaign since lies&rumours about me/list or otland started prior to the start of their server. In opposition to Joshwa534 I will be posting screenshots and proofs. Not just empty words. However, if you don't have time or you simpy don't really care, here is a rather short tldr:
- OXteam really messed up, and I'm not talking about their start where oxserver should change the name to oxrestarter. Banishment was automatic and justified. They were informed almost 40h prior to banishment that their login server is breaking the rules, they were given a time to fix the problem or delete the server from the list until they fix their login server. They didn't do that, and they got automatically banned just like I warned them. What was the reason of the banishment?
Their login server was returning the last known number of players online even when they server crashed and was offline. Such server should return the information that it is offline not the last known number of players online which is totally unfair for other server owners. In the moment of the banishment they were returning 914 players online and were second on the list while their server was in fact OFFLINE.
Here is a proof, screenshot of send email to Syntax:
Joshwa made a strong statement, however don't fall to his cynical game. Everything he and his team do is to make a huge buzz around the server. All he wants is free publicity. He manipulates and lies. Everything could be solved in a respectful manner, despite their fault, however he decided to go on a war. Lets start with a timeline to this war topic.
1) OX server starts.
2) OX server crashes and sends fake information about their online status. Instead of sending that the server is offline (because it crashed) it sends that there are 613 players online.
3) I see that, deactive server for 24h and send information to @Syntax.
4) The first post from their CM here. He lies about the banishment and throws allegations on us here: https://otland.net/threads/im-banned-from-otserverlist.243915/#post-2369477.
5) I address this post here where I explain the whole situation about the banishment: https://otland.net/threads/im-banned-from-otserverlist.243915/#post-2369626
6) Syntax answers and talks some more lies here. https://otland.net/threads/france-t...6-2016-15-00-cest.243552/page-30#post-2369658
This is a lie. Syntax answered my email however they did nothing to fix the problem and haven't deleted the server from the list to avoid banishment. He didn't send the email BEFORE they started to send fake status (Why even you think it's ok to send an email saying "we fake status don't ban us"). I was the one who started the conversation and send them a warning.As I've emailed you before we weren't sending a fake status, the online list was cached due to a crash (the online list wasn't reset).
So you could delete the server from the list if 24h weren't enought to fix your login server. You didn't do that. You wanted a free publicity and now your whole team cries that our automatic tools banished your server. This is exactly why I've sent that warning.Our first priority wasn't to check and clear the online list during this crash. I get your system is automated though, but we weren't down with the cached count very long.
Another LIE. 613 players online were in a moment when I send you a warning. WHen your server got banned you had 913 players online.Also it was cached at 612~ we've had much more on average, I think the term spoof is an exaggeration.
7) I haven't yet answered to this topic, I didn't say anything about keeping the banishment or ubanning. However, they started all that drama. They didn't wait for my answer, they didn't try to reach me. They started a war. That's why I think they are cynical and it's just part of their campaign.
Lets address some more lies.
I believe you already know why they got banned with their live server so there is no need to repeat the text. About the beta server here comes another cynical manipulation. He mentioned that the server got automatically banned but he didn't mentin that it was unbanned THE SAME DAY after Syntax contacted me. I didn't do any problems and explained to Syntax why our system banned the server (huge number of players on the server without history added from the account without any history). More info about it is here: https://otland.net/threads/the-ox-server-pre-banned.231046/#post-2229711We launched our BETA last year (April 2015) and before we were even live, you banned us for "spoofing player count". This year, you've done it again. We officially launched our server June 18th, 2016 at 10:00 CEST and within a few hours, you banned us again for 24 hours for "spoofing player count". The following day, June 19th, 2016, you enforced a 30 day ban against us for "spoofing player count".
And here is a screenshot of what Syntax said then about that post and whole situation:
The post is here if you want to check it: https://otland.net/threads/the-ox-server-pre-banned.231046/#post-2230138
I believe that your team's reputation is 0 right now and "absolutely zero proofs" turned into wall of proofs.My team's reputation alone should hold some validity against your claims of spoofed player counts. We are the administrators of (...) Do you really think that you can attempt to shame us, call us liars about our player count and ban us without some sort of repercussion while holding absolutely zero proof? Do you honestly think people of our position would actually try to achieve any benefit on your list, whatsoever, by faking player counts?
I didn't target any server. There were and there are numerous competitors on the list which even had higher number of players online than ox or even Hexera. Why I didn't target them? Why Thronx, Shadowcores or Gunzodus weren't banned? Because everything about that servers were ok. Why aurera, fortera, premiera are on the list? They even had or have more players online than Hexera or Hexura? Why? Because I'm totally fine about competition. It's just false accusation. Another lie in our book of lies.We are not the only server you've done this to Xinn and we won't be the last. You can either work with us, or against us, and currently you're choosing to risk your reputation by targeting our server.
And this part is so low. Bringing Mark into it, otland's moderators or trying to boycott this community, a community from which YOU TOOK YOUR SERVER is pure hypocrisy. OXserver is based on this communities work. They use TFS and now they come here and wants to boycott it?Furthermore, we will not support https://otland.net/ or anyone else that is openly engaged with Xinn and his corruption until this is resolved. Mark can speak with us directly if he has any input about the situation, or his involvement with Xinn, however the dedicated forum space here on OTLand speaks volumes already. There have been more than enough claims on these forums about Xinn's corruption in the past and not a single flinch from Xinn or OTLand. OTLand's staff deletes threads, bans users and sweeps it under the rug.
If it was so overpriced we wouldn't have reserved dates for 1 or 2 months in advance and so many returning clients. And here I want to address some rumours about the otservlist advertisement. I've never said that I will not sell an advertisement to OX. Actually even If he tried to buy a countdown, I wouldnt be able to sell it since Ryan reserved that date like 2 months earlier. Also, I don't really think Im gouging anyone. Actually I think you are gouging your players. Why? Lets get some facts about oxserver:OTServlist countdown is ridiculously overpriced, and although we can afford it, we're not paying it.
Xinn is taking advantage of his monopoly and gouging server owners.
1) You charge your players for premium/items while your deliver no content and poor stability.
2) You describe your server as 10.95 while you are missing key features such as Oramond, Roshamuul.
3) You let your players CLONE ITEMS and KEEP THEM. Yes this is funny. Your CM's bashed a guy who said that he cloned Steel Helmets. Of course EVERYONE could clone ANYTHING because of how badly you managed to handle the crashes. You didn't do a full rollback and you let your players keep cloned items. Who knows how many CCs were duped. I think every developer here knows about how it works so there is no need to go into the details. If it's needed, sure I can explain it.
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