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I've been trying to work with Slavi for a long time (more then 1 year), I don't recommend it.
I lost time, money and when I think he will redeem himself by treating his customers like people, he disappears again.

If you are looking for someone to work on your server, I do not recommend him.
 

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Support Dohko about that
He worked on Shadowrealm, made a very shitty bot version (a lot of bugs on autotarget) and when his old admin asked him fix that, he disappears constantly. He is only focusing in his own projects and really dont dedicate time to his programming jobs and he has the nerve to say that he has not had time, when you can see him in Otland advertising his project in Unity of Tibia

Is a good programmer?
Yes, really a good programmer

Is trustworthy?
No
 

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My experience was very unproffessional and I do not recommend. Prepaid for a job and he ghosted me. I asked for an ETA and didnt bother him until that date. I even went through all sorts of hoops with the payment method. I have not received any communication back or a refund for services.

If I recieve further communication from him I will update this post.

One of the main reasons I decided to use this persons services is the fact he is OTLand staff and a board mod.. This should probably be examined. @Don Daniello @Znote

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My experience was very unproffessional and I do not recommend. Prepaid for a job and he ghosted me. I asked for an ETA and didnt bother him until that date. I even went through all sorts of hoops with the payment method. I have not received any communication back or a refund for services.

If I recieve further communication from him I will update this post.

One of the main reasons I decided to use this persons services is the fact he is OTLand staff and a board mod.. This should probably be examined. @Don Daniello @Znote

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it's sad that his behavior or " life situations " mess his rep
 

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My experience was very unproffessional and I do not recommend. Prepaid for a job and he ghosted me. I asked for an ETA and didnt bother him until that date. I even went through all sorts of hoops with the payment method. I have not received any communication back or a refund for services.

If I recieve further communication from him I will update this post.

One of the main reasons I decided to use this persons services is the fact he is OTLand staff and a board mod.. This should probably be examined. @Don Daniello @Znote

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Life happens. Sometimes, things and matters are not in your control. He said that to you, so what I can suggest you to do is to give him time and I'm sure he'll reply.

Either way, OTLand staff are not responsible for deals or personal business in any way (i.e, we usually do not investigate matters like these). It's between you two to settle your own deal. However, I'm certain that you'll get a reasonable answer when he's back.
Being a staff member does not necessarily make you more reliable in terms of personal business. The two does not necessarily correlate with each other.
 

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Life happens. Sometimes, things and matters are not in your control. He said that to you, so what I can suggest you to do is to give him time and I'm sure he'll reply.

Either way, OTLand staff are not responsible for deals or personal business in any way (i.e, we usually do not investigate matters like these). It's between you two to settle your own deal. However, I'm certain that you'll get a reasonable answer when he's back.
Being a staff member does not necessarily make you more reliable in terms of personal business. The two does not necessarily correlate with each other.

"Being a staff member does not necessarily make you more reliable in terms of personal business. The two does not necessarily correlate with each other. "
^ that may be the case in OTland but not really within any other organization.. typically at any job any staff member within that company represents the entity they work for.

I agree its not OTLand staff responsbility to deal with all personal business on the site. My only point was the fact he is OTland staff lead me to believe he was a reliable person, as I assumed OTLand would hire reliable people(which I guess youre saying they may not and thats not their responsibility for who they hire and how they conduct services on the site? Correct me if I misunderstood you). I dont think it would be the best outlook to have someone with 'Staff' credentials who is not following through with services, as he is advertising on Otland. From the look of this thread it seems like it has happened to others.

Answer me this.. Would it not be an initial advertising advantage for me if I ran freelancing service on this site and had 'staff' and 'mod' as a title?

My experience when freelancing when someone cant fulfill their obligations they will blame it on real life excuses most of the time, im not saying thats this case, just my own experience.

I gave him a month I think thats plenty of time to at least get a message response.

Real life happens and I understand, but I cant just leave my job with no communication for a month and say hey I cant come into work.. real life stuff. I would get fired pretty fast.

In any case like I said I will update my review if I get a response.

All the best.
 
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You must not confuse staff members on this forum, with real job positions within a real company. Our mission is to make sure the rules are followed on this website. What we do beyond that, does not necessarily represent the forum itself.
While I can understand your point in blindly trusting a staff member, I would also like to emphasize that it's always best to check previous reviews on a service from other users, before trusting said service.

To be clear, I'm not here defending his service whatsoever. Obviously the job has taken longer than what you have agreed on. What I am saying though, is that OTLand staff are not liable for any personal business matters.
I understand your frustration with not getting an answer, I would be too. However, I seriously doubt that he's intentionally avoiding you. I hope you'll get the answers you want from him, whenever he's back.
 

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What I am saying though, is that OTLand staff are not liable for any personal business matters.

Hey quick question can I please have mod status so I can set up my freelancing service and take everyones money without deliverying on anything in return. Seems like there's a bit of money in it without any risk.

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You must not confuse staff members on this forum, with real job positions within a real company. Our mission is to make sure the rules are followed on this website. What we do beyond that, does not necessarily represent the forum itself.
While I can understand your point in blindly trusting a staff member, I would also like to emphasize that it's always best to check previous reviews on a service from other users, before trusting said service.

To be clear, I'm not here defending his service whatsoever. Obviously the job has taken longer than what you have agreed on. What I am saying though, is that OTLand staff are not liable for any personal business matters.
I understand your frustration with not getting an answer, I would be too. However, I seriously doubt that he's intentionally avoiding you. I hope you'll get the answers you want from him, whenever he's back.
I never said OTLand was a real company with real job positions.. What I said was " within any other organization.. typically at any job any staff member within that company represents the entity they work for. " Calling individuals 'staff' to begin with already establishes that 'OTLand' is an organization by definition of the word 'staff'... otherwise I would call them .. 'volunteers'.. I agree previous reviews should be taken into account however I think it would be common most of the time for people to associate an individuals position within an organization with reputation.

You never answered my question?
would it not be an initial advertising advantage for me if I ran freelancing service on this site and had 'staff' and 'mod' as a title?

My whole point is the fact he has those titles and runs an advertising service on OTland is somewhat of advertising(positional) power that normal users do not have. To me it seems like an indirect abuse of power to advertise on the job board with those titles when its not clearly noted anywhere on this site that OTLand does not take responsibility for who they hire and how their 'staff' conducts their services (not that ive seen).

Also let me point you to Addendum 2 in the rules.

Slavi has cost me time and money.. One would argue that is harm. Im not saying he directly abused his powers but due to his 'staff' status, received an indirect positional advantage as I had a preconceived opinion that otland staff were reliable.

" However, I seriously doubt that he's intentionally avoiding you. I hope you'll get the answers you want from him, whenever he's back. "
Could we both agree that its irresponsible to take freelancing jobs at a time where you could possibly disappear and ghost the job?

and with all of that said I have to say I hope hes doing well, nothing serious has happened and we can get this resolved.
 
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We do not hire people. And yes, you should call us volunteers because that is exactly what we are. We do not get paid.
The job section exists, and we monitor the job section in regards to our rules. It is each individual's own choice to send money to a stranger on the internet. Not ours, thus it is not our responsibility either.
The job section is merely an advertisement board of one's services. Slavi hasn't abused his position at all. Never has he once said that he is trustworthy because he's a staff member.
It's completely on you that you misinterpret staff's responsibilities and can't differentiate personal business with moderating the forum. A staff member has the same rights to post an advertisement on the job section, as any other user.
You wouldn't call a staff member to be abusing his position if a user had complaints after playing on the staff member's advertised OT server - would you? It's the same thing here.

To answer your question, no, not for any sensible person doing business online - it wouldn't. User reviews are always the best thing to look at. Not whether or not they were moderating the site.
Since you love making me repeat myself, I will say it again that we do not take any responsibility for personal business. If you think that we have time to play detectives in every case that someone claims that they have been scammed, feel free to create a thread about what you would like to see changed.

This is my last reply. If you want to discuss this further then go ahead and create a thread about it. Perhaps another moderator can clarify the situation for you (if you truly don't understand that we do not interfere with personal business).
 

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We do not hire people. And yes, you should call us volunteers because that is exactly what we are. We do not get paid.
The job section exists, and we monitor the job section in regards to our rules. It is each individual's own choice to send money to a stranger on the internet. Not ours, thus it is not our responsibility either.
The job section is merely an advertisement board of one's services. Slavi hasn't abused his position at all. Never has he once said that he is trustworthy because he's a staff member.
It's completely on you that you misinterpret staff's responsibilities and can't differentiate personal business with moderating the forum. A staff member has the same rights to post an advertisement on the job section, as any other user.
You wouldn't call a staff member to be abusing his position if a user had complaints after playing on the staff member's advertised OT server - would you? It's the same thing here.

To answer your question, no, not for any sensible person doing business online - it wouldn't. User reviews are always the best thing to look at. Not whether or not they were moderating the site.
Since you love making me repeat myself, I will say it again that we do not take any responsibility for personal business. If you think that we have time to play detectives in every case that someone claims that they have been scammed, feel free to create a thread about what you would like to see changed.

This is my last reply. If you want to discuss this further then go ahead and create a thread about it. Perhaps another moderator can clarify the situation for you (if you truly don't understand that we do not interfere with personal business).
'you wouldn't call a staff member to be abusing his position if a user had complaints after playing on the staff member's advertised OT server - would you? It's the same thing here. '
Actually to any staff that I hire on my ots, or anything I manage for that matter, I tell staff they are a representation of me and my organization, and to conduct themselves accordingly because it goes back on me. Ive also experienced many times people abusing their position just from their title. The strings 'GM' and 'ADMIN' are restricted when making accounts on every single OT for a reason?
Actually to answer your question if a staff member here was running a scummy OT I would judge other staff members for recruiting him yes, based on the logic I have described previously.

If you want to debate symantics OTLand 'recruits' not hires sure..

You sound like the communist party of china repeating yourself xD 'we dont know anything, we aren't liable for anything.. we know nothing'

again.. I agree with you.. OTland staff shouldnt be responsible for all personal business on the site, that would be exhausting. however in the case that a staff member is selling services, imo he has promotional power gained by titles. I would argue that creates a different scenario than personal business between end users of the site and again

You had said 'no' but never answered my question directly?...

would it not be an initial advertising(positional) advantage for me if I ran freelancing service on this site and had 'staff' and 'mod' as a title?

I dont think many people would agree theres no advantage unless its clearly noted somewhere on the job board that having staff titles means nothing in regards to personal business and services... which I have not seen other than noted in your reponses. It irritates me your not giving credence to the fact I hired this person mainly due to the staff titles because he had mixed reviews. I guess if you want to imply its completely my fault for making the decision to hire the guy based on the fact hes staff here and ignored the negative reviews while embracing the positive.. sure il agree with that but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth coming from another staff member.
 
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We do not hire people. And yes, you should call us volunteers because that is exactly what we are. We do not get paid.
You can call yourself anything you want, but most members of this forum, including top staff members such as Don, are freelancers and make money from jobs advertised on this very website by staff.
Like to play wordgames much?
 

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'you wouldn't call a staff member to be abusing his position if a user had complaints after playing on the staff member's advertised OT server - would you? It's the same thing here. '
Actually to any staff that I hire on my ots, or anything I manage for that matter, I tell staff they are a representation of me and my organization, and to conduct themselves accordingly because it goes back on me. Ive also experienced many times people abusing their position just from their title. The strings 'GM' and 'ADMIN' are restricted when making accounts on every single OT for a reason?
Actually to answer your question if a staff member here was running a scummy OT I would judge other staff members for recruiting him yes, based on the logic I have described previously.

If you want to debate symantics OTLand 'recruits' not hires sure..

You sound like the communist party of china repeating yourself xD 'we dont know anything, we aren't liable for anything.. we know nothing'

again.. I agree with you.. OTland staff shouldnt be responsible for all personal business on the site, that would be exhausting. however in the case that a staff member is selling services, imo he has promotional power gained by titles. I would argue that creates a different scenario than personal business between end users of the site and again

You had said 'no' but never answered my question directly?...

would it not be an initial advertising(positional) advantage for me if I ran freelancing service on this site and had 'staff' and 'mod' as a title?

I dont think many people would agree theres no advantage unless its clearly noted somewhere on the job board that having staff titles means nothing in regards to personal business and services... which I have not seen other than noted in your reponses. It irritates me your not giving credence to the fact I hired this person mainly due to the staff titles because he had mixed reviews. I guess if you want to imply its completely my fault for making the decision to hire the guy based on the fact hes staff here and ignored the negative reviews while embracing the positive.. sure il agree with that but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth coming from another staff member.


completely agree with whats been said, regardless of if otland staff are not getting involved in personal deals... when hes using your platform and his staff position as a way to advertise himself then rip people off and not follow through on jobs or refunds... then yes to me its definitely your problem & he should not have a position on a website as everyone knows this will give him a position of which he will be seen as a trusted member, if u ever walked into a open market where loads ppl are trying to sell u things who are the 1 people u can trust? the ones who work there.
 

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So what if he created this thread before joining staff? That would mean he does not really use his position to back up his services.
 

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Using the presumption that Slavi used his position to aquire this job, and that him not refunding is a sign of position abuse
(which I don't agree with, but will presume this for the sake of the conversation):

Slavi being unavailable due to life circumstances is not considered position abuse. This is a logical fallacy.
Correlation does not imply causation
It might be an unfortunate situation but wait for him to become available before raising pitchforks.
Going full "cancel culture" on someone who is unable to defend himself is disgusting.
If I know him right he will do a refund or remedy the situation once he is back on track.

Not meeting deadlines and going dark for a couple months has happen on multiple occasions for me, shit happens.
That doesn't mean that I am abusing my power. This is not a benefit granted to Moderators of this forum, and has nothing to do with forum moderation.

But it does hit my online reputation, which unfortunately might also bleed (by association) to any otland mod. Which I think personally is a bit unfair. Which again is why I hope this will be resolved peacefully.
 
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Just to clarify some things:
Using the presumption that Slavi used his position to aquire this job, and that him not refunding is a sign of position abuse
(which I don't agree with, but will presume this for the sake of the conversation):
I don't think there's any signs of Slavi using his position to acquire the job, he wasn't staff when he created the thread, and there's no positional requirements afaik to create a job thread, I've created one myself and I'm not staff.
Seems to me that the concern here is in regards to Kaspar's posts, that even if this was a confirmed scam, maybe even in the case of multiple scams, that you (staff) wouldn't do anything about it, that's pretty much what I got from Kaspar's posts, a complete disinterest in holding any staff member accountable for "anything other than violating otland's forum rules", I can quote him exactly if you need me to.

It might be an unfortunate situation but wait for him to become available before raising pitchforks.
That's fair, but raises a question: how long should you have to wait? Months? Years? If you don't set a time limit to how long one should have to wait then you're basically saying scamming is fine as long as you just stop responding to the client.

Going full "cancel culture" on someone who is unable to defend himself is disgusting.
1) Has anyone asked for Slavi's retirement/loss of position?
2) Did Slavi "say something offensive", as in the definition of "cancel culture", or did he refuse to pay a client and hasn't replied for weeks?

If I know him right he will do a refund or remedy the situation once he is back on track.

Not meeting deadlines and going dark for a couple months has happen on multiple occasions for me, shit happens.
That remains to be seen. The professional thing, no matter what the situation - I mean unless your house literally burned to the ground or something, is to notify your client, give them a short update like "I have to (...) because of (...), I'll get back to you in x days/weeks", and you're pretty much off the hook, it really doesn't take much.
The concern here is if you're ever going to hold staff members accountable for anything other than "violating otland forum rules", the rules being so vague/open for interpretation (and staff cherrypicking) that the statement "hold staff accountable for violating otland forum rules" doesn't really even mean/amount to anything.
 

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Using the presumption that Slavi used his position to aquire this job, and that him not refunding is a sign of position abuse
(which I don't agree with, but will presume this for the sake of the conversation):

Slavi being unavailable due to life circumstances is not considered position abuse. This is a logical fallacy.
Correlation does not imply causation
It might be an unfortunate situation but wait for him to become available before raising pitchforks.
Going full "cancel culture" on someone who is unable to defend himself is disgusting.
If I know him right he will do a refund or remedy the situation once he is back on track.

Not meeting deadlines and going dark for a couple months has happen on multiple occasions for me, shit happens.
That doesn't mean that I am abusing my power. This is not a benefit granted to Moderators of this forum, and has nothing to do with forum moderation.

But it does hit my online reputation, which unfortunately might also bleed (by association) to any otland mod. Which I think personally is a bit unfair. Which again is why I hope this will be resolved peacefully.
I agree with most everything you said however your presumption misses what im trying to say. As someone who doesn't like cancel culture I will def state I never said slavi should loose his staff or directly abused any powers, no words between him and i came up about his staff position.. but what im trying to say is he does have an advertising advantage for his services due to his staff titles. If anyone denies that then they're probably staff here...

Im sure slavi will get back soon and refund me but that still doesn't change the fact I lost time and money due to my decision to hire his services. And my decision to hire his services was mostly influenced by the fact he was staff here at otland. I realize that's on me. again im not saying he abused his powers to get the job, just stating the position im in.

I will state as well i'm not a lending service.. at some point a professional standard should be held regardless of the excuse(if its happened before). If that makes me an asshole well I guess I'm an asshole.

This will be my last reply until I hear from slavi.
 
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I think that all the guys that are supporting slavi are not being objective at all ... the issue is simply he PUFF and haven't reply in a long time. As xKrazyx says. in which job you can do this? in real life, on almost any job after 1 or two days you'll receive a kick in the butt... and common we are in 2020 we have plenty ways to communicate each other, email, phone, net, etc etc. as far i know slavi is not an amish.
Such thing is just being irresponsible.
The thing here is not that if he used his position or not, to do a thread or a job. That's not the issue. The issue is that he puff and haven't reply.
stop defending the indefensible
 
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