[UK][7.4] Tibiantis Online

[Zyzz immortal]

how mechanics would have to change to remove the purpose of a black market, or at least make it less viable. For example. removing ingame player-to-player trade

It could encourage solo gameplay. However server could be dead due to 1 update in 4 years (this one is debatable because with completely single player idea, you could make yourself fe. 30 bp uh on druid in few months, put it in [bound shared depo with the main character knight] and for a simple dragon hunt {solo} you need to spend few months for xx hours hunt. 4 years goes by, is Annihilator Quest done after this time? You need 4 people spending SO MANY HOURS to prepare for this quest. Do not even start about making alt characters to create your main Knight and supply him. Huge lootbag (the problem with lootbag below) spent on manafluids for runemaker.) Or the fact you could hire and pay another players to create low level sorcerers/druids and join later on behemoth hunt that you block. Ingame player-to-player trade is big reason why the server is alive after years, items are valuable, the demand for items are still ongoing. People spend money on black market so people can play RPG. Without it, you would not see any vzl runemakers, the players would have no runes to exp. Do you want to spend 5000+ hours hunting dwarf guards and 2500 on preparing the character for this?

remove the "throw items to the ground" possibility.

You create new problem, what am i supposed to do with items that i loot from monsters (junk you want to sell). That is nightmare for such server like Tibiantis, where knight takes over ab castle spawn and is not able to gain experience because bunch of 8 lvl brand new main characters pick all the loot because you are not able to make lootbag/pick it due to cap limit. So you are surrounded by 1,2 monster per minute because people would block your spawn to make cash themselves. Knight prepares himself to hunt with 300 parcels and write his name in letter "I started 17.09.2024, spawn taken for 3 months, free on 17.12.2024"

 

[ond]

IDK if mods hide what I write or if you guys miss what I post on purpose, but I'm not talking about curbing this problem in an existing server. I mean if you would make a new type of server with different system - that is why I apologize for going off-topic. I'm not talking about Tibiantis or w/e other existing Tibia server. Nevermind.

 

[iNux]

IDK if mods hide what I write or if you guys miss what I post on purpose, but I'm not talking about curbing this problem in an existing server. I mean if you would make a new type of server with different system - that is why I apologize for going off-topic. I'm not talking about Tibiantis or w/e other existing Tibia server. Nevermind.

People only register 20% of the entire information the first time they read a text. It happens to me as well, I think it might be a human thing.

 

[Cafumbre]

Literally what?

Maybe I just didn't understand what you wrote, but my aim was not on how to combat the black market in an existing Tibia server, rather how mechanics would have to change to remove the purpose of a black market, or at least make it less viable. For example. removing ingame player-to-player trade, and even remove the "throw items to the ground" possibility.

Could it even be done and could you still call the game Tibia after such changes? Sorry for the confusion and sorry for going off-topic again.

I dont think it would work. You could still "pre order" items as in buying them before they are looted and standing outside the spawn/following the player as he hunts and waiting for him to loot it.
I think the fundamentals of tibia make it harder to implement such features however you would have to treat this in a very specific manner in order to get rid of the black market.

Like I suggested previously, it would be easier to just infiltrate the black market just as its done in real life or rely on informants/give people incentives.
Who would want to buy items if you could get the items just by reporting someone that was selling them?
Create incentives like I stated, for every 100k you report being sold and removed from the game you could reward the informant with 20-30% of the value. This would not ruin the economy as you would still get rid of far more gold than you create, and it would implement a fear in anyone that wants to trade. I guess you could never truly get rid of peer to peer trade for people that know eachother well but that would be a fairly small market in my opinion.

Just some thoughts, but in my opinion it would be far more feasible than people in this thread make it out to be.

 

[Handicap Ninja]

np im idiot too
this conversation is based on mutual misunderstanding

so id like to add: ontopic is good offtopic bad

IDK if mods hide what I write or if you guys miss what I post on purpose, but I'm not talking about curbing this problem in an existing server. I mean if you would make a new type of server with different system - that is why I apologize for going off-topic. I'm not talking about Tibiantis or w/e other existing Tibia server. Nevermind.

 

[iNux]

Hello @kay

I'm curious about how you came up with Aruthang and the changes in Ankrahmun. Did you continue the lore, or was it something out of your imagination? Is Aruthang and Ankrahmun a representation of the actual lore?

I'm fascinated and seek knowledge. How did you continue the Durin quest? Was it inspired by some sort of book? Like "The Lord of the Rings," or perhaps even further back stories that inspired you?

 

[kay]

Hello @kay

I'm curious about how you came up with Aruthang and the changes in Ankrahmun. Did you continue the lore, or was it something out of your imagination? Is Aruthang and Ankrahmun a representation of the actual lore?

I'm fascinated and seek knowledge. How did you continue the Durin quest? Was it inspired by some sort of book? Like "The Lord of the Rings," or perhaps even further back stories that inspired you?

It's a good question, but the answer is impossible to put in one sentence. I will try to answer and tell more about that when I have some free time, and will tag you then.

 

[Doyouevenlift]

I dont think it would work. You could still "pre order" items as in buying them before they are looted and standing outside the spawn/following the player as he hunts and waiting for him to loot it.
I think the fundamentals of tibia make it harder to implement such features however you would have to treat this in a very specific manner in order to get rid of the black market.

Like I suggested previously, it would be easier to just infiltrate the black market just as its done in real life or rely on informants/give people incentives.
Who would want to buy items if you could get the items just by reporting someone that was selling them?
Create incentives like I stated, for every 100k you report being sold and removed from the game you could reward the informant with 20-30% of the value. This would not ruin the economy as you would still get rid of far more gold than you create, and it would implement a fear in anyone that wants to trade. I guess you could never truly get rid of peer to peer trade for people that know eachother well but that would be a fairly small market in my opinion.

Just some thoughts, but in my opinion it would be far more feasible than people in this thread make it out to be.

do you encourage people to become snitches?

 

[Handicap Ninja]

Hello @kay

I'm curious about how you came up with Aruthang and the changes in Ankrahmun. Did you continue the lore, or was it something out of your imagination? Was it inspired by some sort of book or perhaps even further back stories that inspired you?

hey man im curious how u started running tibiantis shop and what gave u this idea maybe u can share some statistics

I enjoy reading Kay's writing in the morning with a cup of coffee, it's like reading a well-structured thesis.

You analyze all possible outcomes which I like

yea enjoy reading gm comments on discussion about black markets before starting the day collecting paypal commissions from ur p2w webshop

 

[Cafumbre]

do you encourage people to become snitches?

I have learned through my very tough life that in order to survive you must adapt. A goatloving friend taught me that snitching is OK.
Unfortunately in Tibiantis this is not yet an option and thats why its doomed.
RIP Tibiantis!

 

[soulado]

I have learned through my very tough life that in order to survive you must adapt. A goatloving friend taught me that snitching is OK.
Unfortunately in Tibiantis this is not yet an option and thats why its doomed.
RIP Tibiantis!

Wait until you realise ppl can lie while they snitch

 

[Cafumbre]

Thats why there is a button on your keyboard that records the screen, in todays world there are even tools that can record your screen for you. Some very new and brave inventions have been made in the last few months for sure, or is it years, or decades? idk

 

[soulado]

Thats why there is a button on your keyboard that records the screen, in todays world there are even tools that can record your screen for you. Some very new and brave inventions have been made in the last few months for sure, or is it years, or decades? idk

you rly dont get it rofl.

 

[Kresh170]

How come there hasnt been any wars lately on this server?

 

[Cafumbre]

you rly dont get it rofl.

Post clown emoji one more time maybe I will magically get the ability to read ur mind

 

[soulado]

Post clown emoji one more time maybe I will magically get the ability to read ur mind

U dont need to read anybodys mind. Its been written in text by multiple people on this thread.

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How come there hasnt been any wars lately on this server?

You wouldnt want to watch a war w this current roster anyway. Whole bunch of wheelchairs and wooden hands

 

[Cafumbre]

U dont need to read anybodys mind. Its been written in text by multiple people on this thread.

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You wouldnt want to watch a war w this current roster anyway. Whole bunch of wheelchairs and wooden hands

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[Dark Legend]

Why ppl keep threathening Tibiantis?
Its everybodys own decision to play or not.
If not, than not but stop talking bad about the server.

I think there was a time, u enjoyed playing there. Why you didnt act like that before?

 

[Jonathewise]

Why ppl keep threathening Tibiantis?
Its everybodys own decision to play or not.
If not, than not but stop talking bad about the server.

I think there was a time, u enjoyed playing there. Why you didnt act like that before?

Envy... and som others cuz theres no server for their region a.k.a NA Region

 

[rinoo]

Envy... and som others cuz theres no server for their region a.k.a NA Region

There is no server in my region. Im mad as hell. In my opinion...
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