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[UK][7.4] Tibiantis Online

Server Website/AAC
https://tibiantis.online
Server Address
tibiantis.online
Server Port
7171
Client Protocol
7.4
no that's where it ends
ur imagined requirement inevitably leads to it

100% manual lvl up or exp service
if u sell the character the result is the same

https://tibiantis.online/?page=character&name
Just because the results is the same does not make the method equally as garbage. A player who actually makes his character, from ingame resources is nowhere even remotely close to a carder or exp serv.


If a player uses an aimbot and his target dies, ur saying thats identical to a player who manually sds his target. The result is identical, one person cheated to achieve it.

A player uses a ring or ssa macro or healbot to complete anni. A player does it manually. According to you, the result is the same and to you they are the same.

We both know they are not. Back to ur sandbox kamala.

P.s : fourceburg was never sold by me. Given to its post lv 120 50% shared owner in exchange for his 50% ownership of kolter. 2 players who both manually made their characters changing vocations. Sandbox, now. Kamala
 
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@kay

stop wasting time and open ur highrate till theres people actually willing to play your ot lmao, ur making stupid decisions from buisness standpoint.
 
@kay

stop wasting time and open ur highrate till theres people actually willing to play your ot lmao, ur making stupid decisions from buisness standpoint.
I don't care about "business standpoint". If it were our motivation we wouldn't have started such a project in the first place.
 
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I don't care about "business standpoint". If it were our motivation we wouldn't have started such a project in the first place.
Do you care about having a highly popular server? If you do, you would open up new server or a highrate. You can charge 1 eu per prem my since you dont want to profit from it.

1 thing is for sure, You clearly do not care abt making fun entertaining updates
 
We do have the server that we wanted, and we are happy with the players we have. I honestly don't care if Recreant, soulado or other trolls think otherwise because they want something else. I'm not and never was committed to please everyone, and you guys really aren't anyone special.

There are servers that are doing a great job "from business standpoint", like Medivia, or even real Tibia. Business-wise their model is well-thought, and you keep bashing on them for that. But when someone creates a server with a certain vision in the first place, you come to bash on them for "making stupid decisions from business standpoint". If we were to make all the right decisions from business standpoint, it would never get you any "Tibiantis highrate" or "Tibiantis but with many updates" either. There would be simply no Tibiantis at all. Once again, you want to have a cake and eat it too.

Knowing that, why won't you just go find a better place for yourself, instead of whinning here? We're running this server the way we clearly said we would, which may be not the best business-wise and not the most popular, but it is our vision, the same we presented here 5 years ago. I understand that vision doesn't suit you, but you must be the one wasting time then, not me.

It's not like we started with something else and then changed everything, that you should be angry with us now. You knew exactly what Tibiantis was to be since day 1. You tried it, you got bored or it turned out that it wasn't for you for various reasons, and that's fine. So move on and play something that suits you better, what's the complaining here for?
 
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We do have the server that we wanted, and we are happy with the players we have. I honestly don't care if Recreant, soulado or other trolls think otherwise because they want something else. I'm not and never was committed to please everyone, and you guys really aren't anyone special.

There are servers that are doing a great job "from business standpoint", like Medivia, or even real Tibia. Business-wise their model is well-thought, and you keep bashing on them for that. But when someone creates a server with a certain vision in the first place, you come to bash on them for "making stupid decisions from business standpoint". If we were to make all the right decisions from business standpoint, it would never get you any "Tibiantis highrate" or "Tibiantis but with many updates" either. There would be simply no Tibiantis at all. Once again, you want to have a cake and eat it too.

Knowing that, why won't you just go find a better place for yourself, instead of whinning here? We're running this server the way we clearly said we would, which may be not the best business-wise and not the most popular, but it is our vision, the same we presented here 5 years ago. I understand that vision doesn't suit you, but you must be the one wasting time then, not me.

It's not like we started with something else and then changed everything, that you should be angry with us now. You knew exactly what Tibiantis was to be since day 1. You tried it, you got bored or it turned out that it wasn't for you for various reasons, and that's fine. So move on and play something that suits you better, what's the complaining here for?
Some ppl just know ur server quality and anti cheat policy is great.

Some of those same ppl dnt wnna see u waste it.
 
Some ppl just know ur server quality and anti cheat policy is great.

Some of those same ppl dnt wnna see u waste it.
Then, you need to understand that enforcing that policy is highly consuming in terms of time and effort. It's not like we got some magic anti-cheat system from nowhere that does all the job, and we're just sitting and sipping coffee. It takes long hours to check everything, day in day, and more hours to work on improving the tools we have or developing new ones. Without all that, that "anti cheat policy" would be nothing. And since we spend so much time on that, we can't be spending that very time on something else. The more time and effort you put into A, the less you have left for B, and vice versa.

So if you really appreciated it, you should be much more understanding of the fact that other tasks (e.g. updates) may take up longer. Yet, you keep bashing on us for that constantly, which implies one of the following. (1) You either don't appreciate it so much and would prefer that we redirect most of that work to e.g. deliver updates sooner. It's technically possible, but the "anti cheat policy" would get worse, and we were always clear about our priorities and won't change them. So you have to go elsewhere, each to their own. I'm sure there's plenty of servers that don't prioritize rule enforcement as much as we do, but they deliver frequent updates for you to enjoy. Or (2) you do appreciate our work here, but regardless, still demand (unrealistically) that we put the same amount of work into something else too. Like that guy a few pages back, who argued that we should track everyone who trades items for real money: "I don't know and I don't care how you do it, but you must do it!!!". In this case, you're wasting the opportunity to play a server nearly free of cheaters, while waiting for the utopian server of your dreams that will never happen.
 
Then, you need to understand that enforcing that policy is highly consuming in terms of time and effort. It's not like we got some magic anti-cheat system from nowhere that does all the job, and we're just sitting and sipping coffee. It takes long hours to check everything, day in day, and more hours to work on improving the tools we have or developing new ones. Without all that, that "anti cheat policy" would be nothing. And since we spend so much time on that, we can't be spending that very time on something else. The more time and effort you put into A, the less you have left for B, and vice versa.

So if you really appreciated it, you should be much more understanding of the fact that other tasks (e.g. updates) may take up longer. Yet, you keep bashing on us for that constantly, which implies one of the following. (1) You either don't appreciate it so much and would prefer that we redirect most of that work to e.g. deliver updates sooner. It's technically possible, but the "anti cheat policy" would get worse, and we were always clear about our priorities and won't change them. So you have to go elsewhere, each to their own. I'm sure there's plenty of servers that don't prioritize rule enforcement as much as we do, but they deliver frequent updates for you to enjoy. Or (2) you do appreciate our work here, but regardless, still demand (unrealistically) that we put the same amount of work into something else too. Like that guy a few pages back, who argued that we should track everyone who trades items for real money: "I don't know and I don't care how you do it, but you must do it!!!". In this case, you're wasting the opportunity to play a server nearly free of cheaters, while waiting for the utopian server of your dreams that will never happen.
All valid points.

Except in a hr style this lv of dedication is not required. Players will report obvious cheating and you can legalize 1-2 mc since the serv is supposed to be low input high results w fighting. You could also make the loot values high enough such that cheating is not required to maintain a strong lv.

Like i said, some ppl myself included, view u as wasting potential that the 7.4 community has not seen since the first classictibia.

There is no downside and no reason to not have a seasonal high rate. Itll benefit the lowrate more than you think.
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will be a good time to buy new character @soulado

-50% discount on high lv ek'sod
Id just make my own and dominate like I do anytime I play. I can make you a guide if you want
 
Then, you need to understand that enforcing that policy is highly consuming in terms of time and effort. It's not like we got some magic anti-cheat system from nowhere that does all the job, and we're just sitting and sipping coffee. It takes long hours to check everything, day in day, and more hours to work on improving the tools we have or developing new ones. Without all that, that "anti cheat policy" would be nothing. And since we spend so much time on that, we can't be spending that very time on something else. The more time and effort you put into A, the less you have left for B, and vice versa.
I'm just not buying it sorry.

In resume you:
1) You do not seek profit from this project.
2) You do not care if players are getting tired of no new content.
3) What retro tibia community wants its not important for you.
4) Its not important if at least 50% of the tibia diaspora can't play cuz high ping.

All of this based that you 'cant manage more cheaters'. Based on this if the very same server we have now get suddenly 2k players you couldn't manage and it woulda be just one more OT with unreacheable cheaters lol, since the 10 cheaters you are monitoring right now its just too much it seems. (only two cheaters caught last week xD).
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I just don't buy it... so you also;
5) You do not care what people want, take or leave it.

What I think is that simply 'the character took over you' and that's all. One day you said you won't do it and it's just not gonna happen. Its not because you can't or you dont want to. You got carried away by the role character of being stubburn, willful and unyielding.
 
since the 10 cheaters you are monitoring right now its just too much it seems. (only two cheaters caught last week xD).
This has to be one of the most stupid arguments I've read in a while. You seriously assume that we magically know upfront who's going to cheat and we only have to "monitor" them and not everyone?🤦‍♂️

Tibiantis is nearly free of cheaters, only BECAUSE we've been catching them effectively for years, which is only possible thanks to all that time and effort we're putting into checking everything we can. IF NOT FOR THAT, there would've been many more, just like in other servers. Cheaters don't avoid Tibiantis for no reason or because of an unfavorable alignment of the stars. The work we're doing everyday is exactly THAT REASON. Take it away and it's going to be like in every other OT. How hard is it to understand this cause-and-effect sequence?

If you'd go back to my posts from 2019, long before this server even started, I presented the main principles necessary to effectiively eradicate cheating from Tibia server. Back then, almost nobody believed that it was even possible. One of those principles said that you should never assume that the work is done. It's going to be an endless war and a never-ending arms race, that you must be ready to take part in and not give up at any point. The next five years prove that I know what I'm talking about when I'm talking about fighting cheaters. But then rinoo comes and says "huh, you only have to follow 10 characters, half an hour and you're done", wow. Just get lost, how about that?

As for the rest: I said it straight many times, you just refuse to accept it. We are NOT here to please everyone. We are NOT commited to please every Tibia player or the whole "retro Tibia community". We were never commited to that, and we never said we would. We are here to run this server with certain vision in mind - for all those, who agree with that vision and enjoy it. If you are one of them, that's great. If you are not, whatever, there are other servers for you. Stop imagining that we have some burden of pleasing the entire community.
 
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This has to be one of the most stupid arguments I've read in a while. You seriously assume that we magically know upfront who's going to cheat and we only have to "monitor" them and not everyone?🤦‍♂️
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serio mordo?

The point is you can't guarantee this anti-cheat system in a second world because you can't manage it. Then if its about numbers now numbers are lower than ever and there is no reason it would be tested in a second world with whatever stages or location. Also based on this if we inject 1k players in curren tTibiantis from one day to another based on your words you coulnd't also manage. So what? it seems its about numbers? Na?

So could you do it or no?
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"huh, you only have to follow 10 characters, half an hour and you're done", wow. Just get lost, how about that?
Very cheap words from someone that calls every arugment not comming from his mouth a "falacy" xD
Funny fact I actually play Tibiantis. Im one of the 15 players playing at the time im writing this. (not counting zomby makers)
 
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serio mordo?

The point is you can't guarantee this anti-cheat system in a second world because you can't manage it. Then if its about numbers now numbers are lower than ever and there is no reason it would be tested in a second world with whatever stages or location. Also based on this if we inject 3k players in curren tTibiantis from one day to another based on your words you coulnd't also manage. So what? it seems its about numbers? Na?
1. The cost of work and time does not increase linearly with the increase in players on one server. Managing one world with 800 players is not the same as managing 8 worlds with 100 players each.
2. Fighting cheaters in a lowrate world, where everything is meaningful and players are more likely afraid to lose it, and where creating new chars for cheating takes long enough, is not the same as fighting them in a highrate where you don't care so much and can get new chars in no time. This was actually another of those anti-cheating principles I mentioned before.
3. You're not going to "inject 3k players" in the current world, because no OT has ever handled so many players and realistically no one ever will. Also, you'd see a login queue much much sooner, if you're curious.
4. The current number of Tibiantis players is not "lower than ever" and not even anywhere near that. It gets about 300 online in the peak hours lately (with the smallest percentage of cheaters), which is better than it was for the most of its nearly 5 years long history.

Please, don't post when you're drunk.
 
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ppl would say about anything to get tibiantis 2.0 lol
Yea honestly all i want is to play Tibiantis with less lag. I tried shadecores for 6 months but it didn't work. I wish marcus was in otland for review.
 
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