[Switzerland] Classicus 7.4

[R.yan]

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The known bug list we compiled, we fixed. Also the new save system will prevent losses in case of a crash (max 10 minutes loss). All crashbugs that happened we can track the cause and fix it immediately. That doesn't mean we fixed undiscovered crash bugs, but they do get fixed, making the server more stable with every crash. The bot is pretty antibot and close to uncrackable and is developed by one of the makers of Xenobot. The way the client currently communicates with the server is completely changed. Not saying that it will never be cracked and I never did, but I believe it at least it will take quite some time and expertise to successfully get bots working on Classicus.

Regarding hate comments spread that are deleted or spamming same topics over and over I refer you to our server rules and is stated at rule 3d.

Anyways thanks a lot for your feedback and I agree we did a lot of things wrong, which we have learned from. I fully apologize by our lack of activity which is totally wrong on our side and are no excuses for. Hopefully you'll change your point of view at some time and return to Classicus.

 

[Snort Tibia]

You are very welcome. Since your response was so fast i can give you more feedback on this matter.
First ill try to debunk the bullshit you still post and try to actually give tips to improve your service.
*If you could track and fix all bugs instantly you wouldn't had bugs like shielding for MONTHS. Unless you have microsoft + google and pentagon working for you there is no way of FIXING BUG IMMEDIATELY. If your active might take few days. Maybe a week or a month. If dedicated you will fix bugs eventually but please don't try to look so shiny.
*Antibot - again the same team of pentagon , nasa and anonimous razer groups might help you but please sir for the love of humanity PLEASE don't advertise that you have magic wand that will solve botter problems. 1st tibia server in world ever that will solve this problem once and for all. Please don't insult IQ of the readers of this implying they are stupid enough to believe this.
* I do believe you learned from your past mistakes and you being so nice makes me want to be fooled believing you are sincere BUT!

Wrote the same feedback on their facebook page and I got directly blocked from making comments... LOL!

You have NAZI FORUMS and facebook NAZI aswell?! I was posting in classicus forums for days without being noticed yet here you are able to respond in seconds in a very polite manner.
If you really want to have any player base you have to deal with them not ignore them. BASICS 101.This just proves you would rather ignore a person that posted negative in facebook than deal with him. I'm sure that at least 30% of negative posts are not hate posts but disappointed people that were let down by you! They might not have the language to express themselves and sound like "OMG nub server BAD BAD LAG jeperdole mac BRBR?!" but the deeper meaning of part of such text would be that you simply have been let down. Please stop being nice and become realistic and respectful to others.
HINT: Tibia is not a new blockbuster game. Its not a game that attracts crowds of new people. Fanbase and especialy 7.4 playerbase are 20+ , 30+ . You might lack the experience of handling real humans in real life AND that is EXPERIENCE to be learned. We are humans so not perfect that is fine but the way you dealt with your problems shows how far away are you from being able to fix all the problems in few weeks and make it a fresh start. Your server can be reset but it still has the background of your ignorance. You cannot reset that. People were giving you advices asking you for reset or NORESET PLZ but what you did was in YOUR interest not in communities. I'm sorry to say this but Past mistakes can't be fixed in a snap. You proved you need time for that.

To balance out the negative part i would like to say that there is a lot of good things on your server and i do hope your project will not die in matter of weeks. I wish all the JUNKIES of classicus good luck and Hope staff will with time improve.

 

[R.yan]

You are very welcome. Since your response was so fast i can give you more feedback on this matter.
First ill try to debunk the bullshit you still post and try to actually give tips to improve your service.
*If you could track and fix all bugs instantly you wouldn't had bugs like shielding for MONTHS. Unless you have microsoft + google and pentagon working for you there is no way of FIXING BUG IMMEDIATELY. If your active might take few days. Maybe a week or a month. If dedicated you will fix bugs eventually but please don't try to look so shiny.
*Antibot - again the same team of pentagon , nasa and anonimous razer groups might help you but please sir for the love of humanity PLEASE don't advertise that you have magic wand that will solve botter problems. 1st tibia server in world ever that will solve this problem once and for all. Please don't insult IQ of the readers of this implying they are stupid enough to believe this.
* I do believe you learned from your past mistakes and you being so nice makes me want to be fooled believing you are sincere BUT!

You have NAZI FORUMS and facebook NAZI aswell?! I was posting in classicus forums for days without being noticed yet here you are able to respond in seconds in a very polite manner.
If you really want to have any player base you have to deal with them not ignore them. BASICS 101.This just proves you would rather ignore a person that posted negative in facebook than deal with him. I'm sure that at least 30% of negative posts are not hate posts but disappointed people that were let down by you! They might not have the language to express themselves and sound like "OMG nub server BAD BAD LAG jeperdole mac BRBR?!" but the deeper meaning of part of such text would be that you simply have been let down. Please stop being nice and become realistic and respectful to others.
HINT: Tibia is not a new blockbuster game. Its not a game that attracts crowds of new people. Fanbase and especialy 7.4 playerbase are 20+ , 30+ . You might lack the experience of handling real humans in real life AND that is EXPERIENCE to be learned. We are humans so not perfect that is fine but the way you dealt with your problems shows how far away are you from being able to fix all the problems in few weeks and make it a fresh start. Your server can be reset but it still has the background of your ignorance. You cannot reset that. People were giving you advices asking you for reset or NORESET PLZ but what you did was in YOUR interest not in communities. I'm sorry to say this but Past mistakes can't be fixed in a snap. You proved you need time for that.

To balance out the negative part i would like to say that there is a lot of good things on your server and i do hope your project will not die in matter of weeks. I wish all the JUNKIES of classicus good luck and Hope staff will with time improve.

So you don't believe we fixed it? Simply join the server for a sec and try it out. I advertise we have a antibot client, because we have.

Also you call this guy is posting feedback, but it's simply a stupid facebook post with no argumentation at all:

Anyways, thank you for your feedback. Again, sorry about our mistakes earlier at the same time we did a great job the first few months but people tend to only memorize bad things, in our opinion we failed at the end, we failed hard but the start was great and overall we had a really fun time we really enjoyed and so did other players. Propaganda is deleted and will always be deleted, same goes for subjects that are posted multiple times in stead of posting in the appropriate topic someone else already made earlier.

Thank you for your feedback and we will certainly take things in mind that you stated. We evaluated with the whole staff team what went wrong and basically you summarize for the most part what actually went wrong.

 

[Nikolairomanov]

Why do people argue so much geez. Registered to say I'll be playing with a few friends, see you all there.
Shame its released at the such time, it's 2AM Sunday morning for us Australians. :'(

 

[Sagez]

When will we hear about the ways to reclaim our vip days/points in our old accounts?

 

[Bloxx]

@ To everyone thinking of joining this server :

Hello guys! Ive been playing Classicus few months ago or so so i would like to give you insight on server administration.
I've read every post here and most in Classicus forums by their admins so keep that in mind.

Story of how server died:
Main reason of server to die is its ADMINISTRATION. Server crashed and people lost VIPS. Instead of giving effort to restore donations admins decided to give everyone 7 day vip. (if you donated recently sucks to be you)
2-4 day Heavy DDOS followed making Any previous donated VIP useless.
Houses items lost MULTIPLE times. Forums started go grow negative and ask what is going on and why there is no support (btw main reason me and my crew left) instead of any reply administration DELETED FORUM NAZI EVERYTHING and kept monitoring forum only for positivity for some time. Insert random crashes and loosing items from your house at any given random time without any support. Administration DISRESPECTED most of donators and major part of server community. Then HATE DDOS started. Server became so unstable it was unplayable.
Some guy in comments stated he was banned from their facebook instantly. If i would be an admin i would do the same but do not forget they will CENSOR ANYTHING THEY DONT LIKE because when you compare Classicus to north korea then North korea looks like birthplace of democracy and freedom of speech.
Admins are not stupid and their job right now is to look as good as it gets to attract the critical mass for their server success.
Please do NOT get fooled. Server had 1000+ players at its peak. Every single city was alive until problems began that were IGNORED and whole community let down. Simply disrespected. Its not easy for server of 1000 people to die in matter of 1-2 weeks. Think for yourself what could have caused it and how much wrong has administration done.
Please read other comments all the negative comments aren't made by haters. There were reasons why there are negative comments and they are not lacking in numbers. By joining this OT you will join server that puts shiny things first and does sweet talk but shows no shame in dealing with other people. Their customers and supporters! Regulars are not worth mentioning since they are trash to them.

Quoting some statements by rian :
1. Rollbacks and stability : " server has been stable now for over a month."

A dead server stable for over a month is hardly any sign of stability.

2. Lacking support and time investment by the admins
I would rephrase : Not giving a shit while sitting on a golden throne drinking ice tea.

3. completely bug free
PLEASE SIR. ANYONE in this universe having basic education reading words like "COMPLETELY" should instantly suspect this is bullshit. You could say 99.xx% or use some cheesy strategy to promote the absence of bugs but stating its BUG FREE is first LIE (small nano lie but still ;P )

4. ANTIBOT, BOT FREE CLIENT
Sir please. Save the oxygen that is consumed in the process of stating this publicly. Bots were the reason the server had its population in first place. Aimbot/MC+proxy-VPN mc/Cavebot. I have PERSONALY used WORKING cavebot in your server. Ever bot, classic botter. Might not work 1st day after you relaunch but there will be bots SWARMING right after. You might fight them and I sincerely hope you will and have success with that but PLEASE DO NOT say you have a ANTIBOT client. You might have SUPER dedicated staff in stopping botters but by this time you have around 3485768^238474587 servers even Retail version of tibia having botters. Are you saying you will be the 1st bot free server out there? I salute the bullshits Sirs, well done!

TL;DR
This is not worth your time. Yet another server that is not special and will die out eventually BUT has NAZI administration and DDOS problems. If your masochistic, lack self respect, hate your life or just like justin bieber then look no further! Community of people like you are waiting for adventures in the lands of Classicus.

http://otland.net/threads/switzerla...r-system-exp-share-task-system.213600/page-10

Truth about this server is posted in multiple forum posts. If you consider playing this OT please Spend your half an hour reading the negativity before committing playing here for weeks. You will thank me later.

Thank you for reading

@Snort Tibia <- This guy doesn't understand that when you got shit to do in real life its by far more important than a game. They apologized already like 10 times and they say they have the time to focus on the server. So don't botter me and the other players with your crappy story about the old server. It will be all fixed. Give them a chance people to prove their selfes!

I see you all on Saturday and hope you give Classicus a second chance!

 

[R.yan]

When will we hear about the ways to reclaim our vip days/points in our old accounts?

Saturday once the game is live.

Why do people argue so much geez. Registered to say I'll be playing with a few friends, see you all there.
Shame its released at the such time, it's 2AM Sunday morning for us Australians. :'(

No-life! No problem bro, you can join the next day if you can't make it =)

@Snort Tibia <- This guy doesn't understand that when you got shit to do in real life its by far more important than a game. They apologized already like 10 times and they say they have the time to focus on the server. So don't botter me and the other players with your crappy story about the old server. It will be all fixed. Give them a change people to prove their selfes!

I see you all on Saturday and hope you give Classicus a second chance!

See you on Saturday !

 

[53701688]

The client has a dll file in there that codecave the addresses but still able to bot with mouse & keyboard based bots.

 

[Mtslodo]

Ryan, thanks for abandon all the player for the last 2 months of classicus.

I played the server for 3 months, and its no real feeling of 7.4, Knight and paladins hitting 300+ without runes is stupid.

Check out how tibia used to be in 7.4, look for the player named "SMOKED" on youtube, knight with 105 sword hitting players (link below) or even E.O. with 113 sword fight.

Smoked :

EO :

Check how hard was to kill a dragon looking with a paladin even with 100 distance, go back in the days when we used to record with tibiacam and see the damage with powerbolts on anihi quests.

Either you can go to Tibianic and see how it feels like to play an original oldschool ot server.

Classicus was a very easy server, with unbalanced vocations and unreal damage.

Regards,

 

[R.yan]

Thank you for reporting, we'll check our current formulas out. I know they are increased intentionally by us but maybe a tad to high. I'll get on to this, thank you for posting a video as reference.

 

[Mtslodo]

Srly killing monsters that easy alows everyone to hunt on "hot spots" like dragons and DL's, which makes most part of the players to clump up and fight for caves.

Don't u think that the real map back in 7.4 tibia was made for the noobs? so why let increase dmg that much?

Lets take a look at the "free cities", carlin,folda,senja,vega,kazordoon,ab'dendriel,venore and thais... I BET 80% of the monster are made for lv 8-50

How much does it represents of the whole map? 60% or even more? since we just excluded darashia, ankrahmun and edron.
Thats the part of the map that you lost when u do an easy OT with RL MAP

So WHY make getting level 50+ SO EASY?

Have you seen the phrase "you never forget you first dragon" ?

It was markable on yours char history because it was hard to kill, not EVERY SINGLE PLAYER was abble to solo it.

Go to youtube and look for some references from Tibianic ot, they have to hunt monsters with teams, and use their map very well.

I hope someday you realize that there is no tibia 7.4 oficial avaliable to play anylonger, and people miss that old feeling of an hard and serious RGP,

Conclusion : Making loot and EXP higher then used to be is enough, there is no need of 2x runes and strong hits from knigh and paladin and 2 high mana reagen because life ring was avaliable for everyone since it lasts 20min and its too cheap and OP for 900 gold. (Money comes to easy)

Regards,

 

[Sufit]

Thank you for reporting, we'll check our current formulas out. I know they are increased intentionally by us but maybe a tad to high. I'll get on to this, thank you for posting a video as reference.

now looking at the characters created there are more sorcerers created than knights and paladins together, i think its fine to keep them a bit stronger than they were on 7.4, like wtf everyone knows they were shit for exp back then, especially since this is an OT and you can use runes with profit, in rl tibia even though sorcerers were faster to exp atleast it wasnt as easy to get profit, here with 4x loot u can get profit everywhere so its only fair to keep knights and pallys stronger. if you make them as they were on rl tibia 7.4 its gonna take 40 seconds to kill a dragon with 80/80 skills and its gonna be sorcerer only server.

im gonna start this on saturday, one thing i havent been able to get info on is the frags, its not in this thread nor in the website, or maybe im just blind? can someone please provide the information on how much does a frag last and how much for rs/ban?

 

[Mtslodo]

now looking at the characters created there are more sorcerers created than knights and paladins together, i think its fine to keep them a bit stronger than they were on 7.4, like wtf everyone knows they were shit for exp back then, especially since this is an OT and you can use runes with profit, in rl tibia even though sorcerers were faster to exp atleast it wasnt as easy to get profit, here with 4x loot u can get profit everywhere so its only fair to keep knights and pallys stronger. if you make them as they were on rl tibia 7.4 its gonna take 40 seconds to kill a dragon with 80/80 skills and its gonna be sorcerer only server.

My paladin lv 130 use to hit 500+ with SD's , 150-200 below a sorcerer's SD,

My lifepool was 2x higher and I had infinit mana always avaliable for exura vita, so I was a sorcerer with 2x HP and a little less mana =D

My bolts closed the gap from SD , I used to hit 700 every "turn"(500SD+200Bolt), like a sorc would do... OP?

Knights used to hit a little less per "turn", melee damage and explo were too strong, and u had endless runes since its 6x per explo ... and everyone used MC to make runes =)​

 

[Sufit]

My paladin lv 130 use to hit 500+ with SD's , 150-200 below a sorcerer's SD,

My lifepool was 2x higher and I had infinit mana always avaliable for exura vita, so I was a sorcerer with 2x HP and a little less mana =D

My bolts closed the gap from SD , I used to hit 700 every "turn"(500SD+200Bolt), like a sorc would do... OP?

Knights used to hit a little less per "turn", melee damage and explo were too strong, and u had endless runes since its 6x per explo ... and everyone used MC to make runes =)​

i think u are exaggerating, 500 with sd on monsters was probably your TOP hit not always, it was more like 400-500 range while a 130 sorc would have 650-750 iirc and bolts 200 yes(power bolts more like) but vs monsters, and not always, sometimes u miss, sometimes u hit shit, rp dmg is still much lower than ms, doesnt have UE, doesnt have the speed, idk what are u complaining about, u want it to just be sorcerers vs sorcerers?

 

[Sagez]

Exactly, for me it was way easier to get a sorcerer from lvl 0 to 70 than a paladin. mages can lvl up easy with ml 40 while paladins have to wait a lot to get ml 15 to throw sd. Vocations in my opinion are fine as they are. each have they pros and cons. Paladins could be fixed, they could lower damage and get more hit percentage. im with Sufit on this one.

 

[Chaoio]

remake the damages into what 7.4 really was, higher the experience rate and you will be able to stabilize the gap between making hunts boring and having too low/high levels
im aware this would take time, but I think everyone would love this

 

[Mtslodo]

remake the damages into what 7.4 really was, higher the experience rate and you will be able to stabilize the gap between making hunts boring and having too low/high levels
im aware this would take time, but I think everyone would love this

AGREED!

 

[Mtslodo]

i think u are exaggerating, 500 with sd on monsters was probably your TOP hit not always, it was more like 400-500 range while a 130 sorc would have 650-750 iirc and bolts 200 yes(power bolts more like) but vs monsters, and not always, sometimes u miss, sometimes u hit shit, rp dmg is still much lower than ms, doesnt have UE, doesnt have the speed, idk what are u complaining about, u want it to just be sorcerers vs sorcerers?

All that I said was average, go play it and check for urself, best dmg on bolt was 300+

SD's started hitting 500 when I was lv 100

4-5 turns to kill a DL is IN - SA - NE

 

[Sufit]

All that I said was average, go play it and check for urself, best dmg on bolt was 300+

SD's started hitting 500 when I was lv 100

4-5 turns to kill a DL is IN - SA - NE

u want to tell me u hit 500 with sd on 100 pally? im calling bullshit on that cause that would mean the sorcs hit like 700+ at 100
and dl has 1900 hp so 4-5 turns is normal.. ?

 

[Mtslodo]

u want to tell me u hit 500 with sd on 100 pally? im calling bullshit on that cause that would mean the sorcs hit like 700+ at 100
and dl has 1900 hp so 4-5 turns is normal.. ?

Sufit I'm not here to discuss my opinion with anybody, I'm just saying what my impressions of the server was.

Im not gonna play it anyway, you are the one that is gonna be looking for resps to level up not me =D

Im too old different from most part of the OT's players , so my opinion and likes are very different then you.

All you want is an easy RPG

Peace.