Dishonesty in the OTS community (starting off with the OTS Septera/Nostalria)

[Drinc]

"We're more likely going to approach the concept of nerfing rather than buffing. We do believe that where Cipsoft and certain big popular servers went wrong, was by buffing everything to the point of unplayable, with melee and distance damage being doubled. Characters reaching ridiculously high levels where the hardest monsters felt like rats and custom distance weapons that would apply ticking damage that one shot everything in entire spawns.

GFB/UE nerfs are better solutions for PvP issues that might arise around sorcerers especially. But we're also looking at some different more skill based concepts where Druids will play a counter-role towards Sorcerers. It'll be up to the community to give their input and decide later on.

We will definitely not look to make any other adjustments towards paladins and knights for a foreseeable future. And if we do, they'll most likely be PvE oriented. Like I said previously, Knights and Paladins are a lot stronger than they've been on other servers, both in PvP but especially in PvE at higher levels. There is a scaling system for both melee and distance, that other servers have failed to implement. A level 200 with same skill as level 80 won't do anywhere near the same damage. " - septeraOfficial

Keep up the lies

 

[xinn]

@Lyky:
Excuse me? All of the hate posts on otland are from the server owners who got banned because of spoofing. Some of them claim i'm corrupted and take money from others to ban them or allowing people to spoof for money YET noone could prove it. And noone will becuase it's a total nonsense. I wonder when some of you will finally notice that.

xKrazyx is just another person on that list, spreading such nonnsenes. He was banned last month becuase I found out he was logging in 150 fake characters to raise the total number of players online.
He was hiding all players below 40lvl on his whoisonline page, and he thought that this way he will be able to spoof and deceive me. Too bad for him, I found another way to extract all online players on his server. And guess what, found players which had lastlogin on 2016 when the server started on 2018. Then he wanted me to check his server "from inside" after he logged off all of that fake characters and the number of players on his server dropped from 300 to 150 in 3 minutes... Yea, sure... Like there is any need to check a server after he logged off fake chars

Anyway @xKrazyx, since you are spreading lies like that, you are now permanently banned on my list. I'm very happy to clear the list from people like you, from people who can't compete in a fair manner.
From people who hurt not only players by deceiving them but also other server owners who work hard on their servers and yet they can't compete with spoofers like you.

 

[emil92b]

like krazy is the only one (not defending him), i can see atleast 3 well known obvious spoofers that's been active even before his server and still are.

you say you're not corrupted and don't take money. either you're blind as fk, or good friends with the owners, since no action has been taken yet.

 

[xinn]

@emil92b:
So why don't you report them? Obviously automatic detection won't catch all spoofers and I don't monitor all servers 24/7. However I check my mailbox every day and take spoofing reports very seriously. You can even post urls and proofs here. Lets see what you got.

 

[emil92b]

@emil92b:
So why don't you report them? Obviously automatic detection won't catch all spoofers and I don't monitor all servers 24/7. However I check my mailbox every day and take spoofing reports very seriously. You can even post urls and proofs here. Lets see what you got.

What's the point in reporting them if you just ignore them tho?, i'm sure someone else had reported in the past, and as i said before no action had been taken.
however if i ever were to use your site again and knew that you would take the reports seriously, maby i would.

 

[xinn]

What's the point in reporting them if you just ignore them tho?, i'm sure someone else had reported in the past, and as i said before no action had been taken.
however if i ever were to use your site again and knew that you would take the reports seriously, maby i would.

How can you know if i ignore reports if you haven't made any? Every report made via our website has been answered. Every one. I thought you will send me at least a list of that spoofing servers you are talking about but I guess talk is cheap...

 

[e.e]

@xinn
Thanks for dropping by and clarifying what your perspective on that situation is.
As you say though talk is cheap, so I think it's impossible to know which one of you are right without any evidence either way, but your comments here shows that you have some interest in clearing your name/service from these kinds of claims.
What I therefor suggest is that if anyone have any evidence of wrongdoing but doesn't dare to post it on OTLand in fear of being banned, or in general would like to talk to me about the situation, contact me on discord e.e#0480 and I'll post it for you here and may also post a compilation of evidence and xinn's comments or counter-evidence to it on my website below.
And I'll report back here in a week's time if nobody has contacted me or shared any compelling evidence.

@xKrazyx @Drinc @Vitoko
I don't know who else to tag, you three go ahead and tag whoever else you want to if you wish.

 

[xKrazyx]

Xinn banned me for talking about him on a public forum when currently, I am breaking no rules on his site or this one. Theres no said rule that I was going to be banned for talking about his service.. but I guess he really took it personally. I'd understand if I made a false statement.. but what I said isn't a fallacy, it's a true statement.. and I get punished? xD

Saw a post a while back stating that this community is not about money, that this community is not for profit.. I think this needs to be examined severely.

I ran a high rate version of Waropolis a few months ago. I DID NOTHING DIFFERENT THIS TIME AROUND THAN BEFORE.. EXCEPT LAST TIME I WASNT BANNED.. Any of my player community can tell you I was on otservlist last season(I have screen shots with yellow banner buried deep and paypal proof). I had purchased yellow banners on his website a week prior and posted the server a week before, and actually that time around chars were noted in the database as being created in 1969, so what he said about char creation that should have triggered 9 million flags right there but it didnt at the time? The server ran well and died eventually like all highrates do, and it was never banned on Otservlist. Had over 400+ chars logged in~

Heres my mistake.. I deleted the server instance on his website which reset the date the server was added which is why I was banned.. If I never did this, I wouldnt have been banned.

NOW.. This time around I said screw paying Xinn, im not going to buy yellow banner on his website its 20$ damn and just add my server the day of. Which I did.
The server was INSTANTLY banned for too many chars logging in, this was during rook logins.. Any player on the server who logged in can tell you there were hundreds of chars running around rook and my server was banned before 200 players were able to login in the start. This is due to his dumbass code where if you add a server and do not buy yellow banner and it has a huge amount of players after being added.. you get insta banned.. which is what happened.. Many developers around this forum can tell you its obvious thats how his 'spoof detection' code works..

I was banned at this point.

Spoiler: start

Xinn never manual banned me with checking last login dates or anything like that, his 'spoof detection' booted my server because I had too many logins the date the server was added without yellow banner list(I didnt give him money).

I have levers in rook instead of NPC for christ sake because so many people start at the same time no one can use the ORACLE. Server was banned 5 seconds after it opened..

So Xinn wants to say im using my online list hiding under level 40's.. WHICH I AM, cant deny that ofc.. Do you want to know how many players are currently logged in the RPG server? 0-10. seems spoofed to me lol
Heres Waropolis.net online.. and I am banned.. Meanwhile theres currently 4 people online.

Go to my website yourself see how many are online. Waropolis.net ..
Then watch the war video on the front page of all the 'spoofs' fighting in a 30v25v20 lol.

Welp ok surely with everything Xinn's said and everything i've said theres surely no one else doing this that has a massive number of players online that isnt banned from his list?

oh wait.

That being said you can get level 50 on DarkOT in 30 minutes(ive played it), meanwhile it takes around 1-3 hours to get level 40 on Waropolis, and im only hiding lvl 40's.. not 50's..

Count the players on his map only around 100 ppl online. Ask anyone who plays the server it is 100% spoofed and yet it remains on OTservlist even after I had made requests to xinn to please stop.. And guess what I was ignored..
Guess who bought yellow banner, count down box and shot xinn money? DarkOT.

I did NOTHING different in my two editions of my server.. first edition I gave xinn money and wasnt banned. 2nd edition I added my server the day of. gave him no money, insta banned.
Now he perma-banned me for stating something that is true..? How is this right? Lol I never made any false statements, yet he got mad and banned me?

I think more developers who have used xinn's service need to weigh in on this issue.


PS:I tried to resolve the issue.. I had told xinn I would give him a GM on my server to run around.. and teleport to every single player that is logged in.. I told him 'you can login and tp to anyone ingame as long as you want.' and 'I will tp to every single player ingame' in short he said 'Fk off'... He told me he was going to permaban me if he had to check and that players could be coded lol...

Spoiler: pic

PPS:Im not mad about being banned for a month. That is not the issue. That is not why im posting..
PPPS: The fact he says every report is answered is a joke xD

 

[SepteraOfficial]

We will definitely not look to make any other adjustments towards paladins and knights for a foreseeable future. And if we do, they'll most likely be PvE oriented. Like I said previously, Knights and Paladins are a lot stronger than they've been on other servers, both in PvP but especially in PvE at higher levels. There is a scaling system for both melee and distance, that other servers have failed to implement. A level 200 with same skill as level 80 won't do anywhere near the same damage. " - septeraOfficial

Keep up the lies

My bad, the last part refers only to Paladins whom gets minimum damage based on their level. Not knights.

However, at this point the thread seems to have moved on to another topic. I wish you all good luck in your discussion.

 

[Drinc]

yeah coz u keep saying we lie so we have to look at specific quotes and are forced of topic, similar to how the media is forced of topic when trump calls shit fake news. It was not a typo, u said the same shit like 4 times + more stuff + trash talk, thats what started the whole thread.

 

[Wazzup88]

This forum is fucked at this point too, I see moderators that run some of these shit servers. It looks like the good days are over. DarkOT is a prime example of terrible managment, with a greedy system that is favored by some mods here on the forum that won't let you use free speech.

 

[Peonso]

My bad, the last part refers only to Paladins whom gets minimum damage based on their level. Not knights.

That is default feature of Otserv since ever.

 

[Lyky]

@Lyky:
Excuse me? All of the hate posts on otland are from the server owners who got banned because of spoofing. Some of them claim i'm corrupted and take money from others to ban them or allowing people to spoof for money YET noone could prove it. And noone will becuase it's a total nonsense. I wonder when some of you will finally notice that.

xKrazyx is just another person on that list, spreading such nonnsenes. He was banned last month becuase I found out he was logging in 150 fake characters to raise the total number of players online.
He was hiding all players below 40lvl on his whoisonline page, and he thought that this way he will be able to spoof and deceive me. Too bad for him, I found another way to extract all online players on his server. And guess what, found players which had lastlogin on 2016 when the server started on 2018. Then he wanted me to check his server "from inside" after he logged off all of that fake characters and the number of players on his server dropped from 300 to 150 in 3 minutes... Yea, sure... Like there is any need to check a server after he logged off fake chars

Anyway @xKrazyx, since you are spreading lies like that, you are now permanently banned on my list. I'm very happy to clear the list from people like you, from people who can't compete in a fair manner.
From people who hurt not only players by deceiving them but also other server owners who work hard on their servers and yet they can't compete with spoofers like you.

Well you definitely became more active since otserv.pl times; My apologies.
I still have seen some myself or heard from friends of numerous ots faking numbers of people thats actually logged into the game. Like Chrona.pl (as for the example.) I'm sure there's more... since people cry some much about it - there must be something in it.

 

[xinn]

I'm not going to torture you all with a similar wall of text of so called "evidences" which unfortunately are falsified or biased.
However, since @xKrazyx isn't clever person at all, he still left all spoofed characters on his server Therefor he made it very easy to prove my point. I will just link to one of the spoofed characters which were logged in at the time I've banned him. Just, look at this:

http://waropolis.net/characterprofile.php?name=Senior+Major

When he tried to cover the spoofs when I caught him, he changed lastlogins from 2016 to a normal value. Then, removed that table cell on website. However, he forgot to change highscores, such as this one where a person on rook on level 1 has 46 magic lvl Obviously such situation can't happen on regular server. At the moment I've checked his server he had 150 fakes out of 250 characters logged in on different hidden characters.

(In case he changes highscores, screenshot: screenshot_4 — Postimage.org)

@Lyky: Got any evidences that chrona.pl is spoofing? If so, please send them to me (via website or PM).

 

[Lyky]

pm'ed; again i'm sure plenty more people are doing stuff like that... and there's more servers alike; as that person owned a company and he stated he is hosting couple of them at this moment so... he's just milking it.

 

[xKrazyx]

I'm not going to torture you all with a similar wall of text of so called "evidences" which unfortunately are falsified or biased.
However, since @xKrazyx isn't clever person at all, he still left all spoofed characters on his server Therefor he made it very easy to prove my point. I will just link to one of the spoofed characters which were logged in at the time I've banned him. Just, look at this:

Waropolis - MMORPG

When he tried to cover the spoofs when I caught him, he changed lastlogins from 2016 to a normal value. Then, removed that table cell on website. However, he forgot to change highscores, such as this one where a person on rook on level 1 has 46 magic lvl Obviously such situation can't happen on regular server. At the moment I've checked his server he had 150 fakes out of 250 characters logged in on different hidden characters.

(In case he changes highscores, screenshot: screenshot_4 — Postimage.org)

@Lyky: Got any evidences that chrona.pl is spoofing? If so, please send them to me (via website or PM).

Once again Xinn talks about why I was banned. Im not mad I was banned for a month, which is what he keeps refering to.. You don't see me here sitting typing that I wasnt spoofing or trying to prove im not. Once again im not posting for that reason. Theres no point argueing with the guy after I agree to give him a GM on my server and run around to every single character lol.. so thats not what im arguiing/that is not the issue here.

Ill address your screenshot? Congratulations you found a test char..? Did you also notice he has 10000 hp? Lol

Show me this SS of 150 characters from 2016..?

The problem is Xinn white lists individuals and treat users differently based on how much money they send him. How is that not taking advantage of this community for those who can afford to pay him?
I've tested this first hand.. My first server was up on otservlist yellow banner'd without a problem, never banned. 2nd server I added the day of and was banned instantly on my rook logins.

Xinn wants to say this that all of this is falsified? I can prove it all.. I have screenshots.. I have paypal transcactions to him.. I have time of banishment of my server.. I can prove last edition I wasnt banned. Everything i've said...
I have proof of it all.. just simply ask me for what you need and I will provide..

I like how you acknowledge my post but completely disregard 95% of everything I said.

Xinn fail's to mention anything about DarkOT.. Go ahead and state to the world how you think that DarkOT "isnt spoofing". Please put that in public text lol

Xinn why dont you copy the time my server was added and when it was banned? It was banned 5 seconds after it was added by your the amazing auto spoof system... My server was banned on rook char logins. Xinn never noticed any 'ml' at the time and never banned me manually...

Xinn talks about 150/250 chars but there were over 500 on launch... He wasnt there to manual ban me and his auto system banned it at launch..

if(!giveXinnMoney AND os.date()-dayServerAdded(server)<3 AND players>200)then
banServer(server)
end

This is the msg you get when you get auto banned by his dumb system. Notice its 30 Days AFTER my launch date meaning I was banned on launch.. hmm..? Doesnt that coincide with what im saying?

When Xinn manually bans you, you get this msg.. Like Tibijka got smacked with.

Xinn claims I spoof 150 chars? Well where are they ? Lol theres 4 ppl logged in to my OT. Waropolis.net..

The issue im trying to get at is that its wrong that he white lists individuals based on if they send him money, while leaving everyone else fkd.

 

[xinn]

@xKrazyx:
Oh so now fake characters logged in to raise the total number of players online to deceive more people into joining a server are called test characters Good one.
I guess I will just address some of your bullshit and stop posting here, since those who have a brain on a right place, already know what kind of person you are and what you did.

1) What would be a point to check your server using a game master character? I would find suspicious characters (for example on trainers) and I would say those are fake characters scripted to change direction near training monk logged by you. You would say that it's not a true and how could anyone of us prove his point?
Why don't you mention that I offered you checking your server via TeamViewer. Why don't you mention that I told you that no problem, I will share every proof I have but then you will be permabanned. Some could ask why I don't just share proofs when asked.
The reason is very simply - when I share such knowledge to people who spoof, they basically know what to hide next and it makes such servers harder to find in a future.
However, if someone tries to use the card that I don't show proofs because I don't have any - I offer them possibility of sending all of them for perma banishment. Of course xKrazyx didn't agree Why? Obviously because he cheated.
Why didn't you agree to that? Why you forgot to say that you wanted me to check your server AFTER you logged off all 150 fake characters? I WARNED you that if there will be a sudden drop in players it will just mean what it means, that you turned off your spoofing mechanism and I will keep you banned.

2) This guy keeps mentioning darkot. You guys know why? Because darkot also hides some players on their whoisonline list. At the first glance, he thought I banned him based on lack of players on that online list. Basically he thought that his line of defence would be "i have all characters real, just some of them aren't displayed on who is online page because of the RPG, darkot is doing the same, you don't ban them so don't ban me". He thought that if he will mimic their who is online list and hide his spoofing characters on the whoisonline he will not be banned. Well, he was wrong. I could find that spoofing characters and ban him.

3)

Show me this SS of 150 characters from 2016..?

You ask me to do that post factum? Almost a month after you got banned? Are you serious? I offered you showing all the proofs when we chatted. You didn't want to.
Now post factum, after I revealed one of the evidences and you could prepare everything, you ask me to show proofs?
You had your chance to prove you are not spoofing, but you didn't want me to:
1) show all the proofs
2) check your server from inside via TeamViewer

4) xKrazyx also suggested that he got banned because he didn't pay me a penny. This iss just the most ridiculous and stupid thing anyone could say. There are TONS of servers on the first page who didn't pay me a single euro yet they are on the list. You know why? Because they don't spoof and cheat. That's why.

For me your case is closed and you will never be welcome on otservlist.org

Xinn why dont you copy the time my server was added and when it was banned? I will do it here soon if you dont. That way we can prove it was banned 5 seconds after it was added by your dumbass auto system. My server was banned on rook char logins. Xinn never noticed any 'ml' at the time and never banned me manually which is another lie.

That dumb system prevented yet another spoofer from entering the otservlist

Xinn claims I spoof 150 chars? Well where are they ? Lol theres 4 ppl logged in to my OT. Waropolis.net..

Lol. Why do you even say that? Did I ban you today or a month ago? Why would anyone care how many players you have on your server now when it's dead?

And for the reference, since he already posted some of the chat-logs but not the most important ones, here are the logs where I offer him checking his server and where we talk about him logging off his fake characters.
The funny thing is that he told me that he restarted the server then thats why they logged off. What he didnt know is that status protocol shows the uptime of the server and I could check if that's a true or not.
Of course you already know the rest of the story

screenshot_1599 — Postimage.org
screenshot_1600 — Postimage.org

People who want to do any business with xKrazyx should really look into that topic and see what deceiving methods he uses. DON'T do any business with that guy. He will most likely try to scam you just like he tried to scam me, other server owners or his own players.
Also, since I don't really have time to address all his lies and he will keep writing all that nonsences, this is my last post regarding that case here.

Also I wanted to say sorry @e.e for this offtopic here. I just thought it will be good for everyone to see my side of the story. I don't really post often on the otland and people like xkrazyx uses that to post such nonsenses...

Oh. This is the good one I didn't delete all the evidences gathered on that 12 march Guys, see that

1) Last login displayed on this website, yet another screenshot of spoofed character: Tonto.
screenshot_1603 — Postimage.org
Of course SOMEHOW after I posted a link to Senior Major, his magic level was changed to 0 ;-) Which can be seen here:
screenshot_1605 — Postimage.org
Also you can see that he was displaying Last login on 12/03 which was eventually deleted - yet another try to hide spoofs.

2) Full list of all (140) fake characters. You can be 100% sure that this list is legit because all of that characters still exist on his server. 2 of them (or even more) are even logged in (Smoqus and Zmarzlyna). This is not strange at all that they haven't gained a single level for almost a month, yet they were online then and now All of those characters had magic level changed to 0 today, after I posted "senior major" link.

Senior Major
Spirogtr
Pistao
Leaao Niice
Uchihamariusz
Tonto
Fika Rato
Mokin Jr
Derp Paladin Zuero
Smoqus
Flynawb
Maluko Rastafari
Thor Paladin
Ze Azrael
Doglas'zin Psiu
Paola Druidinha
Matafacil
Ze Loko
Zvax
Vhs
Sporition
Jotape Sdmax
Sir Kolling
Kaizem
Metade
Tecomi De Ladinho
Xande
Deadpoll
Oram Siekam
Legalize
Techox
Vingador
Ura Buraszef Podwora
Slash
Oogway
Venito
Priscila Pagodeira
Nietypowy Gostek
Samica
Master Kellir
Glauber Henrique Xavier
Tesmakaren
Castiel
Menina Sapeca
Phia
Lisa Simpson
Canabis
Yosemite Sam
Sanuje Dupa
Old Impossible
Oscar Garlic
Thekinaishiri
Proza Ruim
Xayn Davenus
Supino
Schizofrenia Paranoidalna
Ruxafas
Panzer
Lemysk Suisem
Smiley Face
Piceta Over
Saint Trinver
Cabrunco Loko
Rasta
Manjador Dos Paranaue
Tener Mucha Cara
Tripowx
Navir
Jhoni Walker
Sir Druidizinho
Tony Jezzu Rp
Sorcex
Paladin Of Holy
Orbital Gomao
Volna Dream
Afiliado Do Devilware
Admin Krazy
Twardian
Taz Mania
Riek
Fryzon
Oczytany
Druidmaster
Eternal Sorx
Muito Loko Rapaiz
The Mad Girl
Teamox
Wonder Women
Prawdziwy Lolek
Qqwer
Johnny Bravo
Meninosafadi
The Mad Queen
Miliviix
Abcdefghijlmnopqrstuvxz
Johnnie Walker
Pally Infernal
Wyindualizowany
Tankador
Matheus Walker
Zielony Lisc
Sad Koshie
Eco Cachacero
Blocker Woe
Rush Na Taka
Lulu
Nie Badz Taki
Tomczi
Test Xavato
Over Power
Sciagaj Portki
Trzpiotka
Xazz
Paquita Do Capiroto
Cannabis
Knight Bolado
Mc Daleste
Ligerinho'pm
Tnakier
Zero
Mercenario
Godky
Tonha Diaba
Shaken
Bitche
Following
Queen Of Pain
Lek Metziro
Zmarzlyna
Tomalek
Rei Leao Pala
Rapariga The Walking
Thear Fared
Uwaga Bo Przypierniczy
Parmax
Rapaz
Oloko'meu
Dona Benta
Forever
Wojtasxd

 

[sampleangel]

I've just checked this thread and wanted to point out something.

@emil92b I've reported Xinn multiple times through e-mail directly (not even through his website) and he always responded to them, even if it was past 48 hours but he did. Most of reports I could prove a server spoofing, it was banished immediately. As you're said above he just ignores, I'm sure many of whom reported a server to Xinn will agree with me.

@xKrazyx Now as Xinn shown off your character with pictures, they are your testing characters? What about if all these 150 characters are your testing characters now? You admitted yourself if you don't get my point.

@xinn I understand your reputation matters so that's why you're posting here, but from few posts you made up there should be enough to clarify. It's up to you, but bringing more attention to this useless drama may probably affect you. They don't have anything else to do than claiming something they can't prove.

@e.e my apologizes as well for posting this off-topic.

 

[xKrazyx]

once again.. Im not here to argue whether or not I was spoofing for the 15th time..

I am showing my case to PROVE that xinn is white listing people who him..

I repeat I did NOTHING DIFFERENT the previous edition I ran my server and had over 400 players logged in and WAS NOT BANNED from otservlist.
WHEN I GAVE Xinn MONEY..

This time I did not. Banned.

Your missing the point Xinn xD.

To be completely honest with everyone I was trolling DarkOT having the same exact text. I only expected equal treatment, and when I paid him I had it.

Like I said before my only mistake was deleting the server instance on his website reseting the time my server was added otherwise I would have never even been banned having paid xinn before the server having donation status and enough time on the list..

Xinn only started gathering deviant pointless database info after the fact I msged him after I was banned by his auto system because I didnt pay him and too many ppl logged in the first 5 seconds. He msged me 3 days later and thats when he looked at my site for the first time...

Xinn admits that the auto system banned me not manually..

SO AGAIN TO REITERATE

POSTING TO SHOW MY CASE WHEREAS XINN IS WHITELISTING PEOPLE WHEN THEY PAY HIM.

This guy wants to call me a scammer but any of you who have done business with me know im a genuine guy at heart. Plenty can vouge for that..@Anevis @Apollos

 

[xinn]

This is becoming pathetic how you change your narrative. Few posts ago you were claming you haven't spoofed on your server and I have no evidences Lmao. Conclusions are three. You can't prove anything. You are a total lier, and you spoof. Ok, eot for me.