[UK][7.4] Tibiantis Online

[soulado]

No update took 3 years. The server started in April 2020, the Aruthang update was released in March 2021, then the Ankrahmun rework in December 2022, and another update comes in June 2025. That's 3 big content updates in 5 years. I do understand that you may think this is not enough, but it was never our goal to fully stuff the server with custom content. The updates are no more or less but addition to the original game core. I really invite you to read this article, as it explains everything in detail, i.e. "The Role of Updates" part and the last paragraph of "Summary" in this case. Nevertheless, if you prefer a server that goes more custom, Tibiantis is probably not for you. I always said that straight, and I don't know what else I could do for you. You may want to try Medivia, recommended.

this is a key reason a majority of the active community doesn’t partake in discussions with you.

1- you love to nit pick unimportant facts instead of the overlying problem.

Example :
Player : “your updates took 3 years”
Kay : uhm no actually, they took 2 years.
Actual message to take : players have seen ur history and failure rate of updates on time.

Side note : I’m still waiting for the original Ank solution that you promised was not bugged yet you never released it. Interesting.

Tibiantis is just as serious as it has always been, since day 1. The fact that your team decided to quit due to a lost war doesn't really change anything in that matter. Things like wars and team politics are entirely up to the community, we don't interfere with any of that, and it has nothing to do with the server itself.

Another example of why ppl r disgusted anytime they attempt a good faith conversation (granted, genuine good faith convos here are rare) you pull out some ad lib nonsense.

Example :
Kay : just cuz ur team quit after lost war doesn’t change anything

Reality : my team dominated that server since day 1. Why did we quit? There was at one point a huge war consisting of close to 80-100 human beings. Do you want to guess how many stayed? Cuz it’s less than 15%. Content sucks, there is no end game, custom quests are not rewarding nor interesting to solve, and updates take 2 years or more to complete and when they are done, you get to go kill some melted Greta golem with hmms that has 0 unique component.

Oh and when these players have begged you for a new server you say things like “we don’t have any future plans”. Imagine a group of ppl sitting on a gold mine telling paying customers “we don’t have plans to dig this gold up” and then insulting the customers from a make believe throne about how they should go medivia.

Kay : great gm for anti cheat. Best server since classictibia. Yet has the foresight of a fly larva.

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Sick para spam ngl. Hopefully it turns into something worth joining but…. We know hussaria don’t got hands

 

[Recreant]

attacking the strawman and not addressing the essence of the argument is the staple kay play, idk how is anyone surprised at this point after having to deal with this shit every time theres a chance of a meaningful discussion for the past 5 years

tldr: kay is missing the opportunity of a lifetime to have the greatest 7.4 community war server like old medivia pendulum by refusing to release it cuz of ego

tldr2: while his server suffers a massive decline and it's very unlikely it rises back to its prime

 

[kay]

tldr: kay is missing the opportunity of a lifetime to have the greatest 7.4 community war server like old medivia pendulum by refusing to release it cuz of ego

The "essence of this argument" is only in that you quit Tibiantis after a few months, just like every other server that you played, and since then (which is 3-4 years already) you keep looking for excuses to put the blame on the server and asking us to open another one for your liking.

I have zero problem with the fact that Tibiantis may not be to your, or anyone else's, taste. I understand that it's a niche, but that's the type of server we wanted. A slow paced server that's gonna last for years and work as retirement home for old tibians.

It's you who cannot understand that it's maybe not my life duty to please you, or anyone else, by opening all the other servers that you desire as well. And it must have something to do with your ego if you can't just accept that and move on.

 

[soulado]

attacking the strawman and not addressing the essence of the argument is the staple kay play, idk how is anyone surprised at this point after having to deal with this shit every time theres a chance of a meaningful discussion for the past 5 years

tldr: kay is missing the opportunity of a lifetime to have the greatest 7.4 community war server like old medivia pendulum by refusing to release it cuz of ego

tldr2: while his server suffers a massive decline and it's very unlikely it rises back to its prime

What do u mean? Don’t you see how Kay’s player loss rate of 90% will grow the server? If we can find enough junkies and addicts like the remaining top lvs it can be a wonder

The "essence of this argument" is only in that you quit Tibiantis after a few months, just like every other server that you played, and since then (which is 3-4 years already) you keep looking for excuses to put the blame on the server and asking us to open another one for your liking.

I have zero problem with the fact that Tibiantis may not be to your, or anyone else's, taste. I understand that it's a niche, but that's the type of server we wanted. A slow paced server that's gonna last for years and work as retirement home for old tibians.

It's you who cannot understand that it's maybe not my life duty to please you, or anyone else, by opening all the other servers that you desire as well. And it must have something to do with your ego if you can't just accept that and move on.

As usual, Kay will address arguments he can poke holes in and move goal posts.

He will never EVER address an argument he knows he can’t refute.

He then goes on to talk about ego can’t make this stuff up. I thoroughly enjoy the straw men you keep putting up. I’d absolutely love a single steel man.

Kay, you literally have the best game server of 7.4 and your population has been on a steady decline. Imagine having the best product and unable to sell it due to lack of vision and then blaming EX CUSTOMERS for not staying.

Clown world

 

[draken1]

Content sucks, there is no end game, custom quests are not rewarding nor interesting to solve, and updates take 2 years or more to complete and when they are done, you get to go kill some melted Greta golem with hmms that has 0 unique component.

You can't expect any well made custom content in the first place. What you've seen in other servers and you probably expect is most likely not possible on tibiantis due to technical limits.

 

[soulado]

You can't expect any well made custom content in the first place. What you've seen in other servers and you probably expect is most likely not possible on tibiantis due to technical limits.

Kay has a custom client he made, and an engine he made. The only limits he has are his own.

Let’s go through the various reasons Kay has led this server to the grave.

1- he let ank exist for 2 years instead of simplifying a stupid entry quest (leading theory is there was a bug In code he couldn’t find/fix)

Result : Many high view streamers and players quit, and definitely did not boost or support Serv afterwards. From this moment forwards kay gave every person a reason to doubt his reliability and his ability to see the big picture.

2- as the community gains lvs and “high lv” hunting spawns become normal, one big way to enjoy the game is to hunt high risk monsters for high risk exp. Kay has removed this with the dumb hair brain idea of nerfing every djinn items instead of the ones that matter (ss, b robe, g armor, gs, steel boots)

Result : players who were playing the game fairly without p2w were exping in spawns meant for lv 40s until lv 120. ONLY THEN did we get to hunt dragons.

3- lack of vision and creativity and SHITTY updates. I think this is due to the fact Kay only was a griefer / pk team player but that’s up to debate. One of Kay’s major explanations for any complaints are “we are only a staff of 2, it’s hard for us”. That’s an extremely valid and fair point.

Fix : hire new staff w ingame limits
Requirement : money
Fix : open a high rate or med rate.
Result : if he opened a high or mid rate for a single year, he would generate enough money to completely pay artists for great new sprites (not the Greta golem u bought).
Reality : we get no highrate, main serv population declines, and given some excuse from Kay about some nonsense we didn’t bring up.

4- delusion. Guys he is literally the Walter white of 7.4 right now. He has THE MOST POTENT TIBIA DRUG IN THE SCENE.

He still can’t sell it.

Do you realize how terrible of a businessman and how little critical thinking you must be capable of to have literal addictive lv drug quality server, and you fail? Hiding behind “we don’t care if it’s popular” ignoring the fact that TIBIA BLOWS ON DEAD SERVERS.

I’m sure @kay will have some comedic replies to this.

 

[kay]

Kay, you literally have the best game server of 7.4 and your population has been on a steady decline. Imagine having the best product and unable to sell it due to lack of vision and then blaming EX CUSTOMERS for not staying.

Except for I'm not blaming anyone. I said, each to their own. We maintain this server according to a certain vision, the same one since day 1. You share our vision? Cool, we are happy to have you with us. You don't like it? Well, pity, but I understand it's not for everyone, you can look at other servers then. You liked it but got bored? No problem, I honestly don't expect anyone to play the same game everyday for 5 years straight. You can come back whenever you feel like playing again.

Again, I have zero problem with any of that. I'm happy with the players that we have and I'm not bashing anyone for not willing to play. It's actually the way around. It's you who apparently can't stand that there are still people playing, as you've been sitting here for 4 years already prophesying about the end of the server, and blaming us for not delivering what you want, a high-rate war server, fancy content updates every few months, or whatever, when it was never the goal of this project. You can write another hundred posts on another three otland accounts, but it won't change anything, because the whole "argument" is about the fact that you just want something else.

Do you realize how terrible of a businessman

Except for I'm not trying to be a businessman here, and not treating it like a business. We would have never made any such server if it was meant to be just a business. I'm all aware that the way we chose is not the best business-wise, but yes, we don't care. I could point you a few servers that are absolutely genius business models though, but I'm sure you won't play any of them either.

 

[soulado]

Except for I'm not blaming anyone. I said, each to their own. We maintain this server according to a certain vision, the same one since day 1. You share our vision? Cool, we are happy to have you with us. You don't like it? Well, pity, but I understand it's not for everyone, you can look at other servers then. You liked it but got bored? No problem, I honestly don't expect anyone to play the same game everyday for 5 years straight. You can come back whenever you feel like playing again.

Again, I have zero problem with any of that. I'm happy with the players that we have and I'm not bashing anyone for not willing to play. It's actually the way around. It's you who apparently can't stand that there are still people playing, as you've been sitting here for 4 years already prophesying about the end of the server, and blaming us for not delivering what you want, a high-rate war server, fancy content updates every few months, or whatever, when it was never the goal of this project. You can write another hundred posts on another three otland accounts, but it won't change anything, because the whole "argument" is about the fact that you just want something else.


Except for I'm not trying to be a businessman here, and not treating it like a business. We would have never made any such server if it was meant to be just a business. I'm all aware that the way we chose is not the best business-wise, but yes, we don't care. I could point you a few servers that are absolutely genius business models though, but I'm sure you won't play any of them either.

I have only one Otland account (rest banned years ago) so I’m not sure where this 3 u refer to are… oh right, your just doing a different type of straw man thing.

Ok beautiful. You are not a businessman. You do however claim that you want this server to be a long lasting server old Titian’s can enjoy.

What you actually are doing is creating a server where ZERO old tibiand can enjoy. Why? Cus tibia is a power dynamic model. What happens when 0 new ppl come? The old ppl pa and completely control what the rest of the server can do. Which means those old tibia’s you are so keen on keeping…. Won’t stay. They can find any other server to offer the casual 7.4 experience. What they don’t enjoy is going to shitty spawn ank and getting graped by lv 200 sorcs CUZ EVERY OTHER TEAMS HIGH LV PLAYERS QUIT due to servers flaws and lack of adjustments from staff

Your goal of a place for old Tibians? Look at ur community dude. It’s 90% kids and addicts who p2w. That’s ur dream?

So even if you do not look at yourself as a businessman, and just a nostalgia type? You are failing even more at that than the business component

Edit ; u ever gonna tell me the bug with original ank? You promised me years ago you would.

 

[kay]

I have only one Otland account (rest banned years ago)

That's what I was referring to. You created this account solely to be able to hate on us here because the previous one got banned for that.
As for Ank, all the reasons were widely explained here: Tibiantis Online (https://tibiantis.online/?page=viewtopic&id=93) I later told about the "old" solution in our discord, but the rework was never only about that as you can read in the linked thread.

Look at ur community dude. It’s 90% kids and addicts who p2w. That’s ur dream?

No, it's just what you are telling yourself because - again - your ego apparently can't stand the fact that there are still people playing, long after you quit. Since your prophecy about the server's death hasn't come true for so many years, you're trying to convince yourself that all those who play must be somehow worse and less worthy than you, hence they shouldn't count. You will probably add something about "99% venezuelan runemakers" now and procude another dozen posts to "prove" it.

 

[soulado]

That's what I was referring to. You created this account solely to be able to hate on us here because the previous one got banned for that.
As for Ank, all the reasons were widely explained here: Tibiantis Online (https://tibiantis.online/?page=viewtopic&id=93) I later told about the "old" solution in our discord, but the rework was never only about that as you can read in the linked thread.

So I created the character “Burst”, paladin, leveled it to be a burst arrow bed mage, repeated this 7x more, bed mage’s relog for 6 months for ml 15, only to troll you?

The delusion, delicious.

No, it's just what you are telling yourself because - again - your ego apparently can't stand the fact that there are still people playing, long after you quit. Since your prophecy about the server's death hasn't come true for so many years, you're trying to convince yourself that all those who play must be somehow worse and less worthy than you, hence they shouldn't count. You will probably add something about "99% venezuelan runemakers" now and procude another dozen posts to "prove" it.

The server is dead. No new players. No fighting for spawns. No wars or in game fighting where 2 parties die. High lvs barely exp. Trade messages are repeated for weeks with no change. Runes are 70% sold for rl cash,


Yea man, if you described a serv like that to me? I’d definitely say it’s THRIVING

Very simple question Kay : is your server growing ?

 

[draken1]

Kay has a custom client he made, and an engine he made. The only limits he has are his own.

None of these are true though.

 

[soulado]

None of these are true though.

If that’s the case then I take it back. I assumed stupidly update god kay had that. He didn’t refute it here and he saw it…

 

[0lo]

Kay has a custom client he made, and an engine he made. The only limits he has are his own.

The client is a modified Tibianic the biggest modification it can do is in two .dll clientname.dll and wimm.dll, client itself can only be edited in hexes, it is not otclient, which is fully modified. The engine is a tarball, which can only be modified using hexes. If you have worked on any of them you should know that it is hard to do anything "new" in it.

//edit
Of course I'm saying here that you won't see the possibility of adding mounts or addons or other things from the newer Tibia. Because things like adding parts of the map/quests you can easily modify additionally just like the Tibiantis team does, in order not to disturb the atmosphere of 7.4 everything should be thoroughly tested, so as not to create something too OP. The creators themselves emphasized this from the beginning, I don't know why suddenly people woke up in 2025 saying that an update is missing. xD If you want an update, go to another server or to Tibia where you won't achieve anything without p2w.

 

[kay]

The client is a modified Tibianic the biggest modification it can do is in two .dll clientname.dll and wimm.dll, client itself can only be edited in hexes, it is not otclient, which is fully modified. The engine is a tarball, which can only be modified using hexes. If you have worked on any of them you should know that it is hard to do anything "new" in it.

Yes, Tibiantis uses the cip client and is based on the cip server for the sake of authenticity and real tibia feeling (both modified by us). It's also not a secret that working with those is different than with the otclient and ots, but I can't really think of anything that we possibly wanted to add but were unable to. We applied all the necessary changes in the binaries and even more (it's not done by hex editting by the way), while everything content-related (such as the map, monsters, NPCs, quests etc.) is easily editable in the cip text format. The shape of our content updates was never determined by said "technical limits", but our vision for this project, and you can read all about that in detail here.
I can't recall anything specific, maybe there was a thing or two that someone asked us to include in the client and we considered that unnecessary hassle. But not so much, we even had a prototype of side panels for the cip client, but too many players are against it which is why it was not introduced. Things like mounts were never even considered.

 

[soulado]

. The shape of our content updates was never determined by said "technical limits", but our vision for this project, and you can read all about that in detail here.

this is the crux of the problem, bad eyesight. Unwillingness to get glasses

 

[Slatera]

Whose eyesight, his or yours? From my perspective this is 100% you trying to shape this server into something they obviously do not want it to be. why is that unacceptable for you?

 

[soulado]

Whose eyesight, his or yours? From my perspective this is 100% you trying to shape this server into something they obviously do not want it to be. why is that unacceptable for you?

So… you are of the opinion they WANT their server to slowly depopulate ? You believe they want the current stagnation?

You’re setting up a classic straw man here. “You trying to shape his server” . Never once did I say to remove or add content nor change core mechanics. As an objectively true statement, the majority of his updates are boring and lack attention grabbing. Literally you must not have played cuz if you saw the “content” his vision brings you’d be silent rn.

The point I’ve made is simple : his server blows because of his choices of marketability. His actual physical server and code? Best in 15 years by light years. His stubborn refusal to engage with ideas that would grow his server without any changing to his vision is why his server sucks.

It took him 2 years to finally change the ankrahmun entry quest. Imagine one of the key interesting part of your map (with close to 50% of the entire maps spawns for all lvs) and you refuse to let the community experience it because you can’t acknowledge the quest is not logical. That’s the iq we dealing with. If only you knew how many ppl quit cuz of 1- the shitty quest itself and 2- Kay’s pompous refusal to see an issue that 600 other ppl all saw

Keep up the straw men tho , u n Kay do it well

 

[Slatera]

For someone who keeps saying strawmen you're doing an awful lot of it yourself

"I didn't say add or remove content" but shaping is more than just content, it's how it's run, decisions etc, which you definetly are trying to adjust.

 

[Evalor]

So… you are of the opinion they WANT their server to slowly depopulate ? You believe they want the current stagnation?

You’re setting up a classic straw man here. “You trying to shape his server” . Never once did I say to remove or add content nor change core mechanics. As an objectively true statement, the majority of his updates are boring and lack attention grabbing. Literally you must not have played cuz if you saw the “content” his vision brings you’d be silent rn.

The point I’ve made is simple : his server blows because of his choices of marketability. His actual physical server and code? Best in 15 years by light years. His stubborn refusal to engage with ideas that would grow his server without any changing to his vision is why his server sucks.

It took him 2 years to finally change the ankrahmun entry quest. Imagine one of the key interesting part of your map (with close to 50% of the entire maps spawns for all lvs) and you refuse to let the community experience it because you can’t acknowledge the quest is not logical. That’s the iq we dealing with. If only you knew how many ppl quit cuz of 1- the shitty quest itself and 2- Kay’s pompous refusal to see an issue that 600 other ppl all saw

Keep up the straw men tho , u n Kay do it well

Not non-logic, you're jast a lammy who is whinning.

Consider creating such place by your own, then start to complain and bargain. Your speeches arę pointless and willingly putting nothing else than cracks, because some "soulado" keeps on attacking every aspect he doesnt like. Come on, i challange you, you "dominando with a team" on 1vs1 duel from lv1. We will see if you're not an ent, abadonned alone. But i suppose you'd cheat anyway, as you took so deep sight in it, that you feel lawless to blame others for such PRACTICS.

No regards,
Evalor

 

[draken1]

top ms down
Gyazo Screen Video (https://gyazo.com/a942ebc17937cbd560c2767446c71405)

7.4 high-end pvp in a nutshell

manashield on top ms and just try to escape till your mana runs out
if you're rich enough just get yourself 10 backpacks of stoneskins

7.4 is only fun till levels ~~100 imo

edit: hes getting microlag every few steps, is this normal on tibiantis or cam sync problems?