Actually, 0.4 is just another name for the developmental version of 0.3.
If you looked at Elf's 9.54 release of 0.3.7, it is actually the "0.4" trunk from the premium board.
EDIT: J.Dre beat me
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Actually, 0.4 is just another name for the developmental version of 0.3.
If you looked at Elf's 9.54 release of 0.3.7, it is actually the "0.4" trunk from the premium board.
EDIT: J.Dre beat me
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Seen as donations, when infact they are a service that is purchased.
Then it should be released in the Distro section for public use seeming as it won't be developed any further. Then the public can develop it if they wish.
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Im talking about trunks 3884, 3777 etc. The 8.6~ ones
MartyX can release his 8.6 TFS anywhere he wishes.
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You donate to support otland, you get benifits from it but it's still considerd a DONATION. How is it not a donation? What do you get in return? NOTHING! I don't even play tibia/ot and I donated to support otland. I've tried to map etc or w/e but I failed and thus I have no use for the tfs so why are you complaining about it being a purchase? It's something you get accsess to as a thank you(I guess), and btw it is released in the distro section when it's stable. You cna have patients can't you?
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Like I said, It's my opinion.
If you dislike it, then thats up to you.
Tyren over and out.
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Last thing, they got released at other forums and people who released them were banned.
Ciao.
This. Last time I checked, none of them were available for public use. Only premium members. Also if they are leaked you get insta ban. But w/e.
Thanks! Dont know whats most sad though, that some admin were super fast approving your post, or that you actually did put the effort into making a new account since you seem to be scared of me?
My really crazy idea is that you make more money by having the marketplace restricted for only premium members. Sure I understand that some limitations has to be made to not have it flooded with scamms etc, but this is not really the best way to make a point where some things are free. Why not just approve certain members to use it, depending on what they are selling, activity, reputation among people, proof that they actually have the product? Now your thread in Marketplace section dosnt even have to be approved, all you gotta do is throw money at you to get access. Sounds strange to me.
Thought this was supposed to be a discussion, but ohwell, lets all jump on Talaturens train!
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Sorry but I just have to comment this bcz its hilarious! Go on ANY noob ot out there, look at their donation policy. Now look at where the money goes. To the server? Sure like 10% of the hosters actually spend money on their servers, gained from donations. The rest? Ohwell probably dissapears in a bar or smt, idk. Use your imagination. As I said before, not everything is as it seems to be at a first look.
In order for Talaturen to even take payments (or in this case as you like 'donations'), he will be forced to use this type of text unless he wants to go read some law then write his own teerms, without getting sueed and pay taxes. Now, when its a donation, he can do whatever he wants with the money and we'll never know
But im sure your doing something good with them tala!
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Amaoz, Tyren, you guys are fucking retards. That is all.
On to the topic.
You donate to Otland, simple as that, Otland out of their will gives you access to you(Gift for a Gift, you Donate to Otland, Otland Donates to you).
Why don't you find any other kind of forum and check what the fuck they give you for your donation, just a Colored name and a small Donator's Title. Wohooo!
Here, they give you access to the Bleeding Edge of TFS, again, to the Moron that said "Latest and Stable REV", you seemed to dismissed my post for some reason.
That TFS is not STABLE, get it in your fucking heads.
Don't lump up shit-tier VPS/VPN, even their dedicated servers are shit, to Otland's, Let me put it simple. "DIZ IZ ZERIOZ BIZNIZ!" Everyother Shit OT server cost less to purchase, they don't have to do much of anything, that's why they can pocket their fucking money, Otland can't do that, I believe Talaturen has Mentioned a few things that he has to pay for this forum.
Stop the bitch cry!
Nothing is for free!? You insult FOSS, Linus Torlvalds, The whole Linux/Unix World and every free software developer that can exist.
Because of you, I wish Talaturen and his team retires and leaves this project to die, so bitch-faces like you can stop their crying, sorry, What I meant was , so bitch-faces like you can START crying!
People develop for free and do not expect an incentive, but it is still welcome. Talaturen's strategy helps secure the existence of Otland and TFS alike, so fucking leaches can suck it dry, bitches cry over that "it is not free, I haz topay donate to get Unstable revs that can piss off the people that play my server" and help the parasites that only earn money off someone else hard work!
To anyone that felt offended about my post, Welcome to the Internet...Now GTFO of the internet.
On to the topic.
You donate to Otland, simple as that, Otland out of their will gives you access to you(Gift for a Gift, you Donate to Otland, Otland Donates to you).
Why don't you find any other kind of forum and check what the fuck they give you for your donation, just a Colored name and a small Donator's Title. Wohooo!
Here, they give you access to the Bleeding Edge of TFS, again, to the Moron that said "Latest and Stable REV", you seemed to dismissed my post for some reason.
That TFS is not STABLE, get it in your fucking heads.
Don't lump up shit-tier VPS/VPN, even their dedicated servers are shit, to Otland's, Let me put it simple. "DIZ IZ ZERIOZ BIZNIZ!" Everyother Shit OT server cost less to purchase, they don't have to do much of anything, that's why they can pocket their fucking money, Otland can't do that, I believe Talaturen has Mentioned a few things that he has to pay for this forum.
Stop the bitch cry!
Nothing is for free!? You insult FOSS, Linus Torlvalds, The whole Linux/Unix World and every free software developer that can exist.
Because of you, I wish Talaturen and his team retires and leaves this project to die, so bitch-faces like you can stop their crying, sorry, What I meant was , so bitch-faces like you can START crying!
People develop for free and do not expect an incentive, but it is still welcome. Talaturen's strategy helps secure the existence of Otland and TFS alike, so fucking leaches can suck it dry, bitches cry over that "it is not free, I haz to
To anyone that felt offended about my post, Welcome to the Internet...Now GTFO of the internet.
Guess you need braincap over 10 to get my point. Obv you didnt
Ask for people's opinions -> you'll get them. Call them retards, throw shit at them do whatever so your lil fan crew see how big your cock is. GJ, give this guy a medal now.
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Whole fancrew liked the status, yet none of them stated any opinion regarding the marketplace. In fact only a few people stayed ontopic, until Tyren posted, then shitstorm came instantly. The rest is just trashtalk regarding my/tyrens personal opinions? I really hope for your own good that you one day look at the world with different glasses. But you really got them around your finger tala Too bad admins are involved or we would see ALOT of infractions going out to people for not staying on topic, but w/e, your forum so I guess you can play around with the rules however you want
Ask for people's opinions -> you'll get them. Call them retards, throw shit at them do whatever so your lil fan crew see how big your cock is. GJ, give this guy a medal now.
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Whole fancrew liked the status, yet none of them stated any opinion regarding the marketplace. In fact only a few people stayed ontopic, until Tyren posted, then shitstorm came instantly. The rest is just trashtalk regarding my/tyrens personal opinions? I really hope for your own good that you one day look at the world with different glasses. But you really got them around your finger tala
Too bad admins are involved or we would see ALOT of infractions going out to people for not staying on topic, but w/e, your forum so I guess you can play around with the rules however you want
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Guess you need braincap over 10 to get my point. Obv you didnt
Ask for people's opinions -> you'll get them. Call them retards, throw shit at them do whatever so your lil fan crew see how big your cock is. GJ, give this guy a medal now.
My, my, not only retarded but also illiterate, I asked for thoughts about The Marketplace, not your conspiracy theory about Talaturen Earning Money off the Marketplace, YOU are the one who brought up the subject along with Tyren about the reason that Talaturen keeps the TFS Unstable branch under the Premium Board(Donator Status).
You reaped what you sowed!
BTW, I don't need a medal with this!
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We like the posts because we agree(atleast I do) and why should why say the exact same thing just in other words when it's already said xd?
Apperently your having a hard time reading, so Ill help you abit!
Heres my first post once again for you to read. Make sure to put your glasses on!
This shitstorm about marketplace, again. Really? If you dont want to spend money on Open-Tibia in order to make more money on Open-Tibia (which we all know is every developers biggest wish nowadays, dont tell me otherwise bcz its bullshit then). If you dont like it, dont use it. If you feel like your getting scammed alot, stop buying stuff from people with 100 posts and registerd a month ago, without anyone knowing who its. Use your brains and abit of common sense?
Oh and one more thing. If someone spent a great deal of time (like Znote did on his AAC) do you people expect for real that such items will always be released for free? Because please then tell me on wich planet your living on. Someone spent a great deal of time first to learn (in this example) the PHP language. Then he actually coded the whole thing with the skills he had gained from the learning phase. Then you freebies just stand there shouting "GIVE ME GIVE ME FREE PLX", and then ofcours the comments will go on in "SET IT UP FOR ME FREE PLX", and then atlast "GIVE ME FREE UPDATES, FULL AUTO SHOP SYSTEM SO I CAN MAKE MONEY ON YOUR PRODUCT WHILE YOUR MAKING 0$ PLEASE!" Makes sense dosnt it? lol
Remove marketplace and the people that actually have some knowledge will move to another forum. Why? They dont like noobs that wants everything for free. But you should add some restrictions, I can agree to that. Dont allow people with less then X posts and that havnt been registerd for less then X time sell items there. By doing so you will reduce the amount of people that are creating new accounts, buying premium and then just scamms everyone in the marketplace. But I guess that would generate less profit for OtLand so I guess that wouldnt happend either
Nothing is ever for free, and everything is created for $PROFIT$ in one way or another.
Thats my first post. Please enlighten me how I started a shitstorm. THX.
And here's exactly what I ment, too bad people dont see it.
Why Nothing Is Free (Not Even Free Stuff) | UNICORNS FOR SOCIALISM
Ill just quote that artical abit since your too young to read properly, and only reads what you want to read.
"Expansion: just because something is free (monetarily) doesn’t mean it’s free (energetically). Time is money. And money is a paper representation of an energetic transaction. Don’t be profligate with your most precious resource: your energy.
Some practical approaches to unshackle yourself from the free stuff / time-suck cycle"
Heres my first post once again for you to read. Make sure to put your glasses on!
This shitstorm about marketplace, again. Really? If you dont want to spend money on Open-Tibia in order to make more money on Open-Tibia (which we all know is every developers biggest wish nowadays, dont tell me otherwise bcz its bullshit then). If you dont like it, dont use it. If you feel like your getting scammed alot, stop buying stuff from people with 100 posts and registerd a month ago, without anyone knowing who its. Use your brains and abit of common sense?
Oh and one more thing. If someone spent a great deal of time (like Znote did on his AAC) do you people expect for real that such items will always be released for free? Because please then tell me on wich planet your living on. Someone spent a great deal of time first to learn (in this example) the PHP language. Then he actually coded the whole thing with the skills he had gained from the learning phase. Then you freebies just stand there shouting "GIVE ME GIVE ME FREE PLX", and then ofcours the comments will go on in "SET IT UP FOR ME FREE PLX", and then atlast "GIVE ME FREE UPDATES, FULL AUTO SHOP SYSTEM SO I CAN MAKE MONEY ON YOUR PRODUCT WHILE YOUR MAKING 0$ PLEASE!" Makes sense dosnt it? lol
Remove marketplace and the people that actually have some knowledge will move to another forum. Why? They dont like noobs that wants everything for free. But you should add some restrictions, I can agree to that. Dont allow people with less then X posts and that havnt been registerd for less then X time sell items there. By doing so you will reduce the amount of people that are creating new accounts, buying premium and then just scamms everyone in the marketplace. But I guess that would generate less profit for OtLand so I guess that wouldnt happend either
Nothing is ever for free, and everything is created for $PROFIT$ in one way or another.
Thats my first post. Please enlighten me how I started a shitstorm. THX.
And here's exactly what I ment, too bad people dont see it.
Why Nothing Is Free (Not Even Free Stuff) | UNICORNS FOR SOCIALISM
Ill just quote that artical abit since your too young to read properly, and only reads what you want to read.
"Expansion: just because something is free (monetarily) doesn’t mean it’s free (energetically). Time is money. And money is a paper representation of an energetic transaction. Don’t be profligate with your most precious resource: your energy.
Some practical approaches to unshackle yourself from the free stuff / time-suck cycle"
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Please explain what is your point on this, because it seems to me that to you Money is everything, and I do not want to touch the retarded subject about money and currency.
"Money is nothing but an illusion."
Look. The issue with the market isn't the scams. That will happen regardless. If there was no market place, chitchat etc will be forever spammed (if it isn't enough already). Regardless whether they get deleted or not, people will repeatedly try to sell. The fact talaturen has kept the market board, allows it to be moderated atleast. So if you are scammed it can be dealt with.
Whether or not the market goes, the community wont change much.
Though, there are members (lots of them) who don't have their heads shoved up their arses n earn what they get.
Maybe do favours for others and that will get returned one day. Works with me. I don't ask for a penny for any services i offer (id like to ofc.. But id much rather be that member who will help anyone and everyone rather than only help those with a wallet.. Or purse.)
Whether or not the market goes, the community wont change much.
Though, there are members (lots of them) who don't have their heads shoved up their arses n earn what they get.
Maybe do favours for others and that will get returned one day. Works with me. I don't ask for a penny for any services i offer (id like to ofc.. But id much rather be that member who will help anyone and everyone rather than only help those with a wallet.. Or purse.)
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Money is everything to most people,it can get you ALMOST everything.
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Why not just turn it into a store like v.a.p.u.s? Then people cant scam.
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If you want to talk about the theories of money and currency, make another thread, this one is about the Marketplace!
Let's move to the main subject, I understand that the Selling will not stop, but if you enforce against it, the people selling will have to take their business elsewhere.
Let's move to the main subject, I understand that the Selling will not stop, but if you enforce against it, the people selling will have to take their business elsewhere.
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