@Download Buddy, this game has been played for many years by thousands of different persons all around the world.
We will find same kind of diversity in real life as in here...bad ppl...good ppl...missunderstandings...pride...shame...ego's.
Yeah, and imo. what we need both IRL and on here are ideas and solutions to these problems, which comes from brainstorming, discussions/conversations with reasonable people that wants to see a change, etc, which is what I'm trying to do here and now.
Personal stuff its what im not about to judge unless ofc its so important but i think right now that even if we try being good ppl this game wont last even 5 years more.
Young guys start playing this game and they arent like we were, they learnt what we dont exactly like of the game...so the community keeps destroying itself.
Ok, so what do we and the newcomers dislike about the game? That's what I like to get to the bottom of.
The problem started some years ago when several hosters made theirselves able to be the only chance for us to play. Destroying competence...many good guys hosters already quited oldschool or just hosting.
The remaining shit is all about money.... but gladly we still have a server like this
I completely agree with this. Further I think what you're describing here is caused by what I've been complaining about here: the lack of moral and critical thinking by the community, [leading to] power abuse by egomaniacs that monopolize by ruining others servers to make the most profit and does whatever they want with their playerbase 'cus they don't give a shit, like give donation stuff to their friends, ban/delete players that kills them or disagree with the power abusing GM, reset OT without warning, etc.
where as u see now that we aim through an unthinkable pvp training which makes u assume its not worthy playing against players anymore as this would be + - the same.
Well, I do want to play with and vs players because I want to interact with people that shares values with me rather than NPCs.
I was just playing devil's advocate to get you to explain what your actual opinion is considering you first said you only care about having players online, not whether they're nice people or not, follow rules or not, are skilled or not, etc. And if that was the case I don't see the point of playing vs real players to begin with if the person doesn't matter.
I would say we are a little old already for this... and as we do this for fun and so on we should stop playing the very moment we start doing other thing than having fun. Oldtimes wont be back...most of the actual players doesnt even know what tibia is/was and why it just became so popular.
Isn't life itself more fun/exciting as kids? Should we quit on life when it's not as exciting anymore?
I think instead we should use our developed brains to make it exciting by changing and expanding the game so that it's also interesting to adults.
People of all ages plays games or/and have hobbies. I don't see a problem with playing a game creatively as an adult. But of course, if you play the game for the same reason for 10+ years, that means something is wrong, like people still running around in their 20's random pking on real map OTS and nothing else...
I suggest you to be like you like to be. But the truth is that we are also anyone to say others how should they act, i would suggest kaspar to enjoy and act like he likes to do.
Sure, and I'm not telling Kaspar what to do either, I'm just exposing what he does and condemning it because it has negative consequences for the community, just like a certain 4letter name DDoSing others OTS' is hurting the community.
I like the freedom in almost all its aspects. I miss "Honour" and some old things but are kinda useless and even dangerous nowadays.
What do you mean?
AND, kaspar and all the staff doesnt even know what ive could had called and said them irl while being killed! if i did, or not, does that really matters?
No, as long as you're not hurting anyone (e.g. keep your feelings private) that's fine. But what you do in public does matter. So if somebody actively disregards meaningful rules/honor codes or whatever, that's bad, 'cus it affects other players. Me insulting people would be bad as well if I didn't use it exclusively as one of my only defenses (on an OT I don't own) against people that are actively violating common decency, displays no positive human qualities, plays unfairly and often start the insulting themselves.
Negative and selfish behavior towards others matter where other people are involved no matter where it is.
they could even do it much worse so im glad for having just a server like we have.
Sure. It's a decent server. If you're satisfied with it, keep endorsing it. I'm just pointing out a serious flaw with it, and pointing out it's possible, even easy, to make a better alternative if you care enough to make a change and find other people that cares as well.
So if you are not having fun...dont play buddy
I've never had fun using tibia as anything else than a platform to build "fun things" on, which is what I'm still trying to do whenever I decide to play some or talk about it.
but you can PM me from time to time i wouldnt like to lose contact with u and even we could play some other game for fun xD
Sure
Hopefully ive read better and ive answered what u wanted to know. Sorry but your english lvl is much better than mine i cant say what im exactly thinking so it takes much more time for me ^^
Np. You're still #1 in this thread at reading/understanding and at responding thoughtfully/intelligently to my posts, that's for sure.
And btw, in case you wonder, I use advanced English (precise words) for it to be harder for people like Kaspar to misrepresent what I'm saying to make it look like I'm saying something else (which he's been trying to do in every post he's made that includes my name). This is what selfish tyrants do try to cover up for their wrong or selfish behavior.
I don't use it to try to make what I say harder to understand (cryptic), it's just faster and more precise for me to use precise, but sometimes difficult words (tbh I even struggle with remembering that these words are foreign and difficult to some, as I'm used to them, since I debate and write quite a lot).
Btw
@Kaspar
I don't believe you were serious at all in your last post, but if you want to apologize and try to change or reconsider this kind of behavior ("he says something I don't like/he's not kissing my ass - reaction: BAN HIM!"), I'm listening.
Just don't expect an apology from me for anything other than "provoking you", but that's something we both were doing (provoking each other) since the start, and I didn't even know you were GM, so I definitely don't think I was in the wrong, and I couldn't care less about getting unbanned so there's nothing on the plate from me, I'm just offering a resolution in case you have the capacity for guilt and would prefer to resolve the dispute like an adult.
Take it or leave it, doesn't matter much to me except for delivering me some hope for humanity, lol.
Edit 4317: Actually, I feel guilty for not remembering that we were friends (which I still don't actually remember other than your mention of it in-game earlier) and I wonder if that's perhaps a factor for why you got so upset and defensive. If that's the case I wanna apologize for that. But there's nothing else for me to apologize about as far as I'm aware.