Retrocores serious privacy violation ! Watch out !
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Ftilt
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This Thread is a rollercoaster! I would not take what happened here lightly, but I would also state that if you want to take legal actions you should prolly just.. do it? And not post 30 messages throwing insults left and right into a forum.
on a sidenote this whole incident rings a bell! Wasnt there something similar found in a client before?
on a sidenote this whole incident rings a bell! Wasnt there something similar found in a client before?
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Then get lost nobody asked you. n0b
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whos to say he is risking his IP? you think its hard to spoof an IP? regardless if he has a few millions, wether its SEK or EUR or USD, lawyers are fucking expensive. if someone took him to court he still would have been bled dry by his lawyer if he chose to be represented by an expensive/good one. just give us his info so we can sue him, dont worry about the rest mate we'll take care of it. @Doyouevenlift has enough $ to start a legal case against him.
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Guy was complaining on Discord he got banned with this new anti-bot on Cleanera, Marcus reply:
How did he possess so much details about every case? Even knows which IDE the guys used xD
It's damn obvious he's looking at these screenshots.
How did he possess so much details about every case? Even knows which IDE the guys used xD
It's damn obvious he's looking at these screenshots.
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krafttomten
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CONTACT A LAWYER FOR RELIABLE ADVICE, I AM JUST A RANDOM ANON ON TEH INTERWEBZ, BUT HERE'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ON THE ISSUE
TL;DR
Contact the police if you suspect you are the victim of a crime.
If you are an EU citizen, you might be the victim of a crime, because all EU states are required to criminalize illegal access to information systems due to EU-regulations, see article 3. So this could be a criminal case. Lawyers are usually free in such cases. Also, it costs nothing to initiate a criminal lawsuit. The victim is nothing but proof in the eyes of the court. And it might be possible to get conclusive evidence without any witnesses at all. Criminal cases are crimes against the state, not against the person. So it all boils down to whether Retrocore have stolen data. In case you suspect you are the victim of a crime you should contact the police.
Then there's the secondary question whether there has been a breach of privacy. For EU citizens this might be a breach of GDPR in case any private data have been wrongly handeled, but you would need proof for such an accusation and such proof has not been shown in this thread. Proof is not the same as conclusive evidence. If you have enough to raise a serious suspicion of wrongdoing, that should be enough. One way to get enough for a complaint would be to contact Retrocore staff and ask them to send all the private information they have on you personally. If they refuse, or seem to be hiding things from you, then report them.
This would be something to report to EU authorities or your local authorities which are responsible for handling privacy related stuff. This authority is Integritetsskydsmyndigheten in Sweden, I have no idea about other EU-states but they are all required to have efficient infrastructure to handle these situations, so you can use google and find how to proceed with your complaints.
Lastly, if you have a purely private complaint about breach of contract there is a high risk of it being very expensive. But that's also a completely different question than data theft, and it would be different for every single one of the players on this server. That is, unless you would gather together and do a.. class action lawsuit, or whatever it is called in your jurisdiction. In Sweden it is called grupptalan, or grupprättegång, which is also harmonized within the EU, which means that a group of EU consumers (in this case players) could band togeather and pursue a common lawsuit against a company. There are private lawfirms that might be interested in this. But it might be expensive, I don't know. Probably won't happen anyway because it's difficult to organize.
It's pretty straight forward
If u r scared hes taking screenshots then dont play it I mean its that simple.( I just dont see logic in storing hundred of thousands screenshots and look thru them just to see deskop let's be honest if that was a case he would need fulltime partners in crime to look thur all this)
Not to mention its tibian community not bitcoin farm where people selling tibia cash/runes for money just to make few pennies lol
I can bet nobody is gonna take any1 to court (please prove me wrong)
And witch hunt is good for what exactly?( because its not like every1 knows who is he by now)
Just to be clear I'm not taking any sides I literally dont care, just another drama
@down xDD
Go take him to court or carry on crying how angry u got because he has your facebook details
Ps did u report it to the police yet or waiting for some1 to hold your hand?
If u r scared hes taking screenshots then dont play it I mean its that simple.( I just dont see logic in storing hundred of thousands screenshots and look thru them just to see deskop let's be honest if that was a case he would need fulltime partners in crime to look thur all this)
Not to mention its tibian community not bitcoin farm where people selling tibia cash/runes for money just to make few pennies lol
I can bet nobody is gonna take any1 to court (please prove me wrong)
And witch hunt is good for what exactly?( because its not like every1 knows who is he by now)
Just to be clear I'm not taking any sides I literally dont care, just another drama
@down xDD
Go take him to court or carry on crying how angry u got because he has your facebook details
Ps did u report it to the police yet or waiting for some1 to hold your hand?
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OTLand please dont allow everyone to comment
Aczkolwiek
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Same logic, just a different example:
Arguments like "it's been there for 10 years already, so don't worry" are a bit too conformist for spyware built into the client. Even if you stick to your "10 years of service" argument, this bot-free server is like 2 weeks old? It is a similar amount of time you guys needed to realize that kingdomswap was just a scam for $$$.
Joriku
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Got any credit cards I can use Marcus?
Pls
I buy for $2 each, better priced then Dark web
But holy, Tibicam is scarry xD
Pls
I buy for $2 each, better priced then Dark web
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Sorry, can't help but being a troll..
But holy, Tibicam is scarry xD
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So since u know for a fact where they robbin and who did, did u report it yet or are we all just fantasising here ?
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Aczkolwiek
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Here, take a definition: Definition of EXAMPLE (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/example)
Ohh mkay next time if I need an example I'll ask you directly, so I wont have to be confused that we are having a discussion or something
And back to my question are you guys going to report it to authorities or just gonna threat him with lawsuit/lawyers and other fantasies? Id really love to know
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Pm's are better for that
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The thing that comes to mind is Blizzard's warden and Riot's Arkem. Both are very intrusive pieces of anti-cheat, and both requires the companies to have extremely long and incredibly thorough legal terms of use/terms of service/privacy policies in place that the user must explicitly agree to in order for them to be allowed to install and activate them on a person's computer.
Unless Marcus have that and have explicitly stated somewhere in those ToS/ToU/PP that if you agree/play the game, he will record your screen, what he has done amounts to cybercrime, since he effectively installed malware on your computer without your knowledge.
Also it bothers me greatly that this data was posted over HTTP, rather than HTTPS.
This means that these screenshots were sent in plaintext for anyone between your computer and his server to see, no encryption or security measures whatsoever.
Also the data was sent to a webserver, which means that there's probably an apache server somewhere with tons upon tons of screenshots with potentially sensitive information on them. All freely accessible to whatever VPN company hosts that webserver.
This is just such a giant security yikes I don't even know what to say.
Unless Marcus have that and have explicitly stated somewhere in those ToS/ToU/PP that if you agree/play the game, he will record your screen, what he has done amounts to cybercrime, since he effectively installed malware on your computer without your knowledge.
Also it bothers me greatly that this data was posted over HTTP, rather than HTTPS.
This means that these screenshots were sent in plaintext for anyone between your computer and his server to see, no encryption or security measures whatsoever.
Also the data was sent to a webserver, which means that there's probably an apache server somewhere with tons upon tons of screenshots with potentially sensitive information on them. All freely accessible to whatever VPN company hosts that webserver.
This is just such a giant security yikes I don't even know what to say.
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Not a single shred of evidence was posted in this thread and are the moderators really okay with doxxing people? Seems sus.
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