How about another poll?
No, thank you.
I see no reason to compete again with the OTLand's team.
Where's WibbenZ? He's too quiet. It's funny how he accused me and it's you that are defending him all the time instead.
And thank you so much to post the proof print! That's all that I wanted.
since you claim that they can be edited
Never said that, if you are saying that I did say it. It was another member in this thread, @Alpha
If you don't believe me also on this, you can check it in here: The Forgotten Server Icon Competition - Voting thread - V3 (https://otland.net/threads/the-forgotten-server-icon-competition-voting-thread-v3.276809/post-2670710)
thinking we actually would gain something by disqualifying a user's entry from this competition
Didn't I answered that before?
Don't you remember the votes of you, WibbenZ and mostly of OTLand's team?
Don't you remember that WibbenZ disqualified me without proofs saying that he "can't" show us that?
Tbh, I never asked the proofs to win this competition after WibbenZ and your decision.
I asked it because I know that I never cheated, and I wanted the opportunity to show that to everyone in here.
I wanted to be in peace knowing that I'm not wrong. And now I confirmed that I'm not.
This was my first competition, and now the last.
As I said to ralke already, I really don't care to win in a competition where the moderators (WibbenZ and Kaspar specifically) made a false accusation against me of cheating when I never did that.
As I said, I posted it only at 3 discord servers, which was: 'OTLand', '(Open)Tibia' and 'OTServ Brasil (OTBR)'.
I N-E-V-E-R posted it on my Discord server, because almost everyone are brazilians that I got by advertising in Tibia videos not related to Open Tibia, like on Cateroide's video ( Tibia: Kingdom Age Online - TREM NO TIBIA? - Castelando o Game | ⛏
). They mostly doesn't know anything about Open Tibia Server; they just play Tibia; some maybe access only 'OTServ Brasil (OTBR)' (which is a brazilian forum) but not OTLand. Why would I share the thread link where almost no one have an account at OTLand? So, I preferred to post it only at the 3 discord groups as I mentioned.
Or if I posted it in these 3 discord servers, I'd be forced to post it on my discord server as well?
But, this message that you showed existed once before! I'm not going to lie about it.
I was expecting for this message already.
And about this old message:
So, after WibbenZ warned me, which was at the FIRST DAY OF THE COMPETITION (at 2021/06/11)
, I edited the messages of the 3 discord groups still at the same first day.
discord servers are P-U-B-L-I-C
, so everyone saw the message I sent and edited on the 3 discord servers I mentioned, and saw that I never sent into my discord server.
Why the hell would I fix this message in 3 public discord groups and keep this old message in other places, even if I've posted it on my public Discord server (which I didn't), after WibbenZ warned me?
Just to wait to be disqualified? This makes no sense at all.
I'm not that dumb to post it in p-u-b-l-i-c after WibbenZ warned me.
If I wanted to cheat, I would sent it to several members that I believe in private instead, so I know this is a fake proof.
And tell what's in that proof, which you now showed, that would justify WibbenZ to say that he "can't" show that?
I don't see anything that would justify him to say he "can't". If you do, tell me.
I think I know why. WibbenZ said he "can't" show the proof because, if he showed to me, I would know that it were about the old message which I fixed at the same time he asked, but I didn't expected that he would give a fake print in a place where I never posted. I was expecting this message already, but at the 3 places I posted.
So based on all of that, the probably way of think of who did this "print" was:
- "I need to find another place where River didn't post this message"
- "With that, it will be my words against his. If I make a fake proof of it, he won't be able to prove it"
- "Because since there is no message there, it would seem like he removed that message that never existed"
Now, it's my words - of a simply member with no power - against 2 moderators with the power to do whatever they want against me and the forum.
Also, you said that you and WibbenZ checked this proof. How?
Can you explain to me how you both did that, since you were never on my discord server?
Or did you just believe on that print because WibbenZ would supposed to never fail
, considering that as checked
Also, I just checked all users of my discord server, and neither you or WibbenZ are there, nor was in the past 3 months.
I'm curious about the checking process of yours.
As WibbenZ and you said there's nothing that I say it will change anything, so whatever then.
But now I know to myself that I'm not a liar. I'm satisfied with that, thank you for that "proof".
I haven't seen the message myself
I know, because I have a log of who join to my discord server.
So neither them checked that, because they were never on my discord server.
I trust my Staff, that's why the hold the positions
How blind you are then, believing just in words and in a "print" without checking anything, even when a member said to be sure that never did anything wrong.
So, you are saying that to you, WibbenZ, Kaspar and others from team are angels that could never fail at all.
The moderators could decided based on their minds and beliefs making ralke as the winner and I don't care about it.
Really. Just feel free to have fun with ralke's icon.
But don't call me a liar in front of everyone of this forum
That's enough to me now.
Thank you for showing me the "proof".