- May 7, 2017
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I appreciate your comment, I can only imagine how long you had to deal with people posting things like mine. Please accept my apologies for your inconvenience! As for money, it's a rather delicate topic, but quite the contrary - I'd love to see people contribute more for the sake of the sense of community rather than seeking financial gratification. But that's just me, speaking with a perspective where money from OT - believe me or not - is something I couldn't care less about.yawns
These threads are getting boring. To be honest.
It's 2021, not 2010. At least your not asking the community to pool for money, I got to give you that.
I'd love to see this community thrive, but you're right, it's not 2010 anymore and perhaps the sense of nostalgia took over when I wrote my post.
Please fear not, my IQ is just fine, so are my analytical skills. But I appreciate your concern pal, thanks!OP says he is not here to point fingers but do it anyway, then say he doesn't want to help. At least he is not ingenous to say he has some magic solution. Amazing and mindblowing analysis, probably high IQ. That the sort of retard we need here.
As for the real issue, I didn't point a finger at any single person, merely stated my opinion about this community. Which I feel entitled to given that at least some of the people here (who moved from other boards and communities) benefited from the work I've done in the past too. And don't get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with that, I've made my contributions exactly for the benefit of others, except I didn't imagine so many of these people actually starting to ignore the community the moment they became competent enough and didn't need other's help anymore. This is simply sad, but something to come to terms with I suppose.
I'm not quite sure how to interpret this post. But I'm going to assume that you have read the thread along with all my replies carefully and you're referring to the general complaints:I feel like the only people complaining about the "state" are the one that just want to be able to download peoples hard work without having to learn anything :|
If you want to LEARN how to do things, more than happy to help.
If you're just asking people to give you their distros and custom content without wanting to learn anything.... <insert fart noise here>
You're right, people who complain about where this community is are those who can't do things themselves. I think there are two main reasons for that:
- some of them came here with a promise of an open community, willing to help and show them the ways (from the feedback I've seen so far it seems like they have all the help in the Support forums, kudos to those who actually help them)
- some feel entitled to demand things from the community, because they're not interested in digging in, learning and they came here with an idea that if so many people host their own servers and make plenty of money it can't be that hard. So they voice their frustration, because in reality it's not easy and requires hell of an effort, even if you have all the pieces readily available
But in case you didn't read carefully and you're referring to myself then let me assure you: I'm after no distros nor content here, I've learnt enough back in the days and even more during my professional career to not need any help if I ever wanted to have my very own server. I never did though nor I do now, unless I was asked to help someone with a project I felt excited about. And that would only be for the sense of accomplishment and not some benefits.
@Peroxide That's right on point and like I said already - I didn't mean to offend anyone who actually contributes or who contributed a lot in the past and stopped for the reasons you just named. I agree with you completely and this is pretty much what I wanted to say in my initial post (other than stating the obvious and pushing people to think about it and perhaps offer viable solutions?). People genuinely interested in helping the community were forced to stop sharing, because other people who COULD contribute are more interested in their own gain. And I don't blame you nor anyone who stopped contributing, I'm completely on your side. This is exactly the reason why I decided not to start contributing after what I've seen and heard. I'm with you on that and just like you I hope to see it blooming once again in the future.