There was a bear in there as you can see in this picture below
That pickhole leads to this circled area. So that's where the key would spawn? In a chest, box or something?
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There was a bear in there as you can see in this picture below
That pickhole leads to this circled area. So that's where the key would spawn? In a chest, box or something?
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Can anyone please document all replies in an ordered fashion
Speaking of 7.1, what's a good distribution base for it? I'm interested to look into the protocol/packet structures.
you cant do it like on the fibula one? i mean a way to use the otbm with the server you are creating from scratch
or im dreaming too much
Ye, that’s the idea- Have the same engine just switch a single DLL
if you manage to do that i follow you and help actually im using nostalrius but fibula would be the finalYe, that’s the idea- Have the same engine just switch a single DLL
I just don’t know the packet structures and connection protocols (i.e. encryption, order of packets) and small stuff like that, which is what I meant to ask for, haha.
Edit: damn, it seems there are no sources out there that depict the 7.1 packet structure? How the hell did we never document this shit? haha
Anyhow, I found an old c# barebones client I was writing in 2011 apparently (?), there are some hints in there:
Sent by server:
Sent by client:
Edit: damn, it seems there are no sources out there that depict the 7.1 packet structure? How the hell did we never document this shit? haha
Anyhow, I found an old c# barebones client I was writing in 2011 apparently (?), there are some hints in there:
Sent by server:
//Login
Disconnect = 0x0A,
MessageOfTheDay = 0x14,
CharacterList = 0x64,
//Game
SelfAppear = 0x0A,
GMAction = 0x0B,
Message = 0x14,
FyiMessage = 0x15,
Ping = 0x1E,
Creature_Unknown = 0x61,
Creature_Known = 0x62,
Creature_Turn = 0x63,
MapDescription = 0x64,
MapSliceNorth = 0x65,
MapSliceEast = 0x66,
MapSliceSouth = 0x67,
MapSliceWest = 0x68,
TileUpdate = 0x69,
TileAddThing = 0x6A,
TileUpdateThing = 0x6B,
TileRemoveThing = 0x6C,
CreatureMove = 0x6D,
ContainerOpen = 0x6E,
ContainerClose = 0x6F,
ContainerAddItem = 0x70,
ContainerUpdateItem = 0x71,
ContainerRemoveItem = 0x72,
InventorySlotInUse = 0x78,
InventorySlotEmpty = 0x79,
SafeTradeRequestAck = 0x7D,
SafeTradeRequestNoAck = 0x7E,
SafeTradeClose = 0x7F,
WorldLight = 0x82,
MagicEffect = 0x83,
AnimatedText = 0x84,
Missile = 0x85,
CreatureSquare = 0x86,
CreatureHealth = 0x8C,
CreatureLight = 0x8D,
CreatureOutfit = 0x8E,
CreatureSpeed = 0x8F,
ItemTextWindow = 0x96,
HouseTextWindow = 0x97,
PlayerStatus = 0xA0,
PlayerSkills = 0xA1,
Icons = 0xA2,
CancelTarget = 0xA3,
CreatureSpeech = 0xAA,
ChannelList = 0xAB,
ChannelOpen = 0xAC,
ChannelOpenPrivate = 0xAD,
RuleViolationOpen = 0xAE,
RuleViolationRemove = 0xAF,
RuleViolationCancel = 0xB0,
RuleViolationLock = 0xB1,
PrivateChannelCreate = 0xB2,
ChannelClosePrivate = 0xB3,
TextMessage = 0xB4,
CancelWalk = 0xB5,
FloorChangeUp = 0xBE,
FloorChangeDown = 0xBF,
OutfitWindow = 0xC8,
VipState = 0xD2,
VipLogin = 0xD3,
VipLogout = 0xD4,
//TODO: check this
CanReportBugs = 0x32,
AddMapMarker = 0xDD,
/*
//Didn't exist in 7.1
Ping = 0x1E,
DeathRelogin = 0x28,
WaitingList = 0x16,
QuestList = 0xF0,
QuestPartList = 0xF1,
CreatureSkull = 0x90,
CreatureShield = 0x91,
ShopWindowOpen = 0x7A,
ShopSaleGoldCount = 0x7B,
ShopWindowClose = 0x7C,
ShowTutorial = 0xDC,
*/
Sent by client:
//Setup
LoginServerRequest = 0x01,
GameServerRequest = 0x0A,
//In-Game
Logout = 0x14,
Ping = 0x1E,
AutoWalk = 0x64,
MoveNorth = 0x65,
MoveEast = 0x66,
MoveSouth = 0x67,
MoveWest = 0x68,
CancelAutoWalk = 0x69,
MoveNorthEast = 0x6A,
MoveSouthEast = 0x6B,
MoveSouthWest = 0x6C,
MoveNorthWest = 0x6D,
TurnNorth = 0x6F,
TurnWest = 0x70,
TurnSouth = 0x71,
TurnEast = 0x72,
ItemMove = 0x78,
TradeRequest = 0x7D,
TradeLook = 0x7E,
TradeAccept = 0x7F,
TradeCancel = 0x80,
ItemUse = 0x82,
ItemUseOn = 0x83,
ItemUseBattle = 0x84,
ContainerClose = 0x87,
TextWindow = 0x89,
HouseWindow = 0x8A,
LookAt = 0x8C,
Speech = 0x96,
ChannelList = 0x97,
ChannelOpen = 0x98,
ChannelClose = 0x99,
PrivateChannelOpen = 0x9A,
RuleViolationSend = 0x9B,
RuleViolationClose = 0x9C,
RuleViolationCancel = 0x9D,
FightModes = 0xA0,
Attack = 0xA1,
Follow = 0xA2,
PrivateChannelCreate = 0xAA,
PrivateChannelInvite = 0xAB,
PrivateChannelExclude = 0xAC,
CancelMove = 0xBE,
TileUpdateRequest = 0xC9,
ContainerUpdateRequest = 0xCA,
OutfitRequest = 0xD2,
OutfitChange = 0xD3,
VipAdd = 0xDC,
VipRemove = 0xDD,
BugReport = 0xE6,
RuleViolationReport = 0xE7,
/*
//Didn't exist in 7.1
ShopBuy = 0x7A,
ShopSell = 0x7B,
ShopClose = 0x7C,
ItemRotate = 0x85,
ContainerParent = 0x88,
NpcChannelClose = 0x9E,
*/
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There was a bear in there as you can see in this picture below
That pickhole leads to this circled area. So that's where the key would spawn? In a chest, box or something?
View attachment 47015
Found this old screenshot:
Location - Secret Cavern - Google Drive
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It was definitely in that room, but I can't remember how it used to spawn. If you look at the screenshot you see the box is in a different location, which makes me believe the key was found in the present box instead. As far as I remember there were no pushable quest boxes.
That Google drive has a bunch of categorized old tibia screenshots btw.
Found this old screenshot:
Location - Secret Cavern - Google Drive
It was definitely in that room, but I can't remember how it used to spawn. If you look at the screenshot you see the box is in a different location, which makes me believe the key was found in the present box instead. As far as I remember there were no pushable quest boxes.
That Google drive has a bunch of categorized old tibia screenshots btw.
Thanks. I bet it was in the crate then. Actually, I'm pretty sure all quest boxes/chests were movable back in the day. They were just normal containers. Only after 7.2 with the new quest system did they become unmovable. Here's a good example:
Dragon corpse from copper shield quest is another:
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Have a few other updates on quests as well:
Actually, maybe I was wrong about that. According to this:
"Before the current quest system was implemented, this sword spawned daily on the casket where the current Noble Armor Questis."
Found this screenshot that appears to be of the behemoth quest room here. It also shows how the layout has changed. 2 chests instead of 4. I guess the stuff on the ground could be the reward? Kind of disappointing in that case
View attachment 46304
I've heard from several people now that this was in fact a "daily spawn" as well. They mentioned tower shield and naginata. Not sure about the other stuff.
Paradox tower was also "daily" btw.
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According to tibia.com/library at the time of 7.1:
"They can shoot fireballs and magic missiles"
I'm guessing the "fireballs" are unchanged and they just changed "magic missiles" from energy projectile with physical attack to energy attack, as you describe them. Difficult to know if they changed the attack values for the energy attack as well. The change seem to have been made in 7.3, because I can still find a few tibicams that show energy attacks being blocked by armor. I would need more 7.2 tibicams to test the attack formula.
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According to tibia.com at the time of 7.1:
"Moreover, they know how to heal themselves and how to make themselves invisible"
How sure are you of this? Did you hunt them at the time? Because I've seen a few instances when the official library has not been updated to reflect a recent change. But it also seems strange if warlocks were invisible at some point, then not for a while, and then again after that?
Edit: I looked through some 7.1 screenshots of Warlocks and found many where people (mostly pallys and mages) have explosion runes either in their backpacks or on the ground. Seems to also indicate invisibility, wouldn't you agree?
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This could actually be considered a 7.1 feature, or not, depending on your preference. It seems to have been changed as part of a minor update after 7.1, but before 7.11 (so it didn't get a new version number), where 50% of experience from summons was also introduced:
"On the other hand, a mana shield will now also protect you against life drain of vampires and monsters alike."
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Btw funny fact, in stolen Cip files slimes clone exp is still set to 55
Any idea when monster summons stopped giving exp?
Edit: I'm thinking if the exp for monsters like Slimes and Beholders were increased to compensate for this feature being removed.
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Not sure. In 7.2 they did not give exp already and I think it was that update (7.11 -> 7.2) when it was changed. Either that or one earlier.
Yea, could be. Although they've been adjusting exp of some monsters in general overtime.
E.g. dwarf guard exp was lowered from 185 to 170 in 7.3->7.4 update, and again to 165 afterwards. Wild warrior was also changed from 55 to 60. (speaking about 7.4/7.7 differences as it was my main interest)
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Nice, thanks!
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I would love to see a thread like this for 7.4 version, comparing 7.4 Tibia to 7.7 Tibia since nowadays most of servers that claim to be 7.4 are actually 7.7
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I thought I read something here about spears being 30 attack, but now I can't find it.
Anyway, I can't find a screenshot that shows it either, but Tibia.fandom.com claims that's the case.
Webarchive of tibia.de also claims that's the case and they also have different attack values for some of the other distance weapons. Since you could see the attack value on these items, I'll buy that that was the case, at least at some point, but I don't think they updated their site as soon as a change was made, so just because the date is around 7.1, I'm not sure that's necessarily the case.
They also claim that arrows had 30 attack and bolts 60 under ammunition. Since you were not able to see attack value of ammunition, I doubt this is accurate, especially for bolts in 7.1. But it does make me wonder if the attack values have changed. Doesn't it seem strange for spears to have a higher attack value than arrows?
Anyway, I can't find a screenshot that shows it either, but Tibia.fandom.com claims that's the case.
Webarchive of tibia.de also claims that's the case and they also have different attack values for some of the other distance weapons. Since you could see the attack value on these items, I'll buy that that was the case, at least at some point, but I don't think they updated their site as soon as a change was made, so just because the date is around 7.1, I'm not sure that's necessarily the case.
They also claim that arrows had 30 attack and bolts 60 under ammunition. Since you were not able to see attack value of ammunition, I doubt this is accurate, especially for bolts in 7.1. But it does make me wonder if the attack values have changed. Doesn't it seem strange for spears to have a higher attack value than arrows?
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Spears used to have 30 attack prior to 7.5 for a fact. And yea, they hit more than arrows, arrows had a higher hitchance though.
60 atk bolts is bs, you can find that info on various sites, but they were just copying it from each other. Bolts had 30 atk and power bolts 40, confirmed.
Btw throwing stars, throwing knives and small stones atk and weight were also changed. @al222
60 atk bolts is bs, you can find that info on various sites, but they were just copying it from each other. Bolts had 30 atk and power bolts 40, confirmed.
Btw throwing stars, throwing knives and small stones atk and weight were also changed. @al222
