Bitcoin users?

[Heon]

Of course. Internet can be switched off. Governments can easily force every ISP to do it. It's not like for example Turkey didn't force every ISP to block facebook and other sites, right?
The idea that internet cry-fest can achieve anything substantial is childish. All of the major shit-storms were about very unimportant stuff and politicians didn't have the time to bother about bunch of whiners.

Won't mind if I post your comments from this thread on r/iamverysmart and gain some free karma? I promise atleast 10% will be yours.

 

[Arashel]

Won't mind if I post your comments from this thread on r/iamverysmart and gain some free karma? I promise atleast 10% will be yours.

I don't like being quoted on subreddit full of idiots who mocks thing they don't understand or are too childish to understand. It's not like your upvote whoring will be done by people who can show any internet-based shitstorm that forced any serious government into serious economic/social reforms

Again. This is mockery done by kids, who are too childish to understand the stupidity of their action.

 

[Neon]

As a strange mix of conservative and libertarian who like to read about history and economy, I must say that keeping any large percentage of your wealth in form of BTC or other so called “cryptocurrency” is just stupid. BTCs and other, are even worse than current left-winged general currency system based on faith in governments… At least those currencies have specific owners and there is always some kind of continuity between fallen country and new one that raised from “ruins” of previous one. In case of BTC no one can back up value of that currency.

You do realize that we are moving towards a more and more digital world, right?
And with that comes Digital Currencies and so on. Everything will be better digitally (in time), you just have to adapt. I don't know how old you are, but you need to adapt to new stuff.
And bitcoin is one of those "Stuffs". But it's like most people say (mostly older people). "It was better before", while I can agree on alot of stuff that was better before, alot of stuff has also gotten better.

But I live in Sweden, and this shit tier of a country is basically living in 1990, and is flooded with snowflakes and government kiss-asses/SJW's.

What makes Bitcoin so good, is that it is not government held/controlled. It basically shits on the government, and that I like. And I am very pissed that I didn't invest in this 5 years ago...

I gotta say that I agree with you on the statement above. Reddit is a cancerous place with 12 year olds that think they are Einstein. Fuck Reddit.

 

[Arashel]

You do realize that we are moving towards a more and more digital world, right?

So what? You're suggesting that politicians are getting less greedy and less influential-wannabe...? Wake up princess. They are not. They will continuously fight against other currencies they cannot control.

And with that comes Digital Currencies and so on. Everything will be better digitally (in time), you just have to adapt. I don't know how old you are, but you need to adapt to new stuff.

Nah. It's more about you being technohipster with wet dreams of matrix and not understanding the reality of politics. You don't live in some pacifist paradise full of altruists. You live in real world where countries like People's Republic of China are aggressively fights against other economies, including other currencies.

What makes Bitcoin so good, is that it is not government held/controlled. It basically shits on the government, and that I like. And I am very pissed that I didn't invest in this 5 years ago...

It doesn't make bitcoin good. It makes it unstable and fragile towards any directed action of any of the intelligence services from across the world. Again. Grow up and start to understanding the harsh reality of world's politics.

The idea of not-regulated currency is just naive. In the history of human civilization there never was "free currency". Free from the control of any state or organization. Your hypothesis of bitcoin being good is pure speculation based on zero evidences.

 

[BahamutxD]

I admit I kind of agree to @Arashel Its impossible for BTC to be a valid currency as long as its so volatile. Markets would not work with BTC if the price is so unreliable and we live in a world where we constantly need to buy/sell stuff to other countries/regions/corps. Would you like to be paid 1BTC as salary today, and your partner that does the same job 3BTC the next week?

Also, as of right now, paying with BTC for our daily needs is not possible. Transactions are too slow because all of the security it involves and there are limits on the amount of transactions you can make. Many bussines wouldn't be viable with such slow payment method. BTC being a digital currency and the internet not being a human right, will just leave a lot of people out of the game for the simple fact that they can't use or can't afford an internet connection.

In a world like ours, with the limited supply of BTC, the currency not being regulated by anyone and the constant goal of people/companies to get richier... BTC is just doomed to have its value skyrocket as much as the society thinks its worth until society understand that something so expensive is worth nothing because they can't afford it/achieve it.

I understand people liking the idea of BTC, but I don't think we are there yet. Maybe for the next generations.. who knows.

 

[whitevo]

bitcoin valuation takes 10minutes, but Etherium takes few seconds.
If you talking about cryptocurrency to hard cash, that's a separate story, it depends on the bank who is controlling the exchange.

Bitcoin is limited but infinite. As you see it already stretched out into 0,0000000 something points and it can go even smaller if demand increases (and it will)

Cryptocurrency prices right now idd are so fucked up because billionaires are playing with them and huge corporations and countries are just adapting to it, but I'm quite sure in several years this will all calm down and we have a steady currency what everyone can use anywhere without any transaction fees. (including for paying in salary)

 

[Neon]

So what? You're suggesting that politicians are getting less greedy and less influential-wannabe...? Wake up princess. They are not. They will continuously fight against other currencies they cannot control.


Nah. It's more about you being technohipster with wet dreams of matrix and not understanding the reality of politics. You don't live in some pacifist paradise full of altruists. You live in real world where countries like People's Republic of China are aggressively fights against other economies, including other currencies.


It doesn't make bitcoin good. It makes it unstable and fragile towards any directed action of any of the intelligence services from across the world. Again. Grow up and start to understanding the harsh reality of world's politics.

The idea of not-regulated currency is just naive. In the history of human civilization there never was "free currency". Free from the control of any state or organization. Your hypothesis of bitcoin being good is pure speculation based on zero evidences.

You talk to me like I was born yesterday, I'm probably older than you to start with. And yes, Bitcoin might not be a "Stable" currency, but give it time. Maybe it will fail maybe it will succeed, but atleast there was an attempt of changing stuff.
And why are you calling people "Technohipsters", are you kidding me? Are you the inventor of that word or what, because I have never in my life heard it before.

But it seems like you know it all my friend, so what are your suggestions? Just keep it as it is? Government stealing our hard-earned money (Unecessary Taxes) and whatnot.. Let me hear it. You just want everything to be like it is at the moment, not trying to move forward to find new (possibly better) things?

 

[Arashel]

BTC being a digital currency and the internet not being a human right, will just leave a lot of people out of the game for the simple fact that they can't use or can't afford an internet connection.

You cannot make it a human right. Having right to something means that someone is obliged to provide it to you. This is basically the idiocy of fascism/socialism. You must either force private companies to provide internet to people at all costs or you create government entity which will provide(and control) the internet.



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You talk to me like I was born yesterday, I'm probably older than you to start with.

I know a lot of people who are older than me (25+) and who are childish about their views on politics/economy/geopolitics, so the argument about age doesn't really work on me.

And yes, Bitcoin might not be a "Stable" currency, but give it time. Maybe it will fail maybe it will succeed, but atleast there was an attempt of changing stuff.

Nope. There was/is attempt of naive technohipsters to "change" stuff, but being completely oblivious to the harsh reality of real world. Star Trek or other idiotic futuristic utopias are just nice myth and they will never exist. CURRENCY is one of the many tools in hands of rulers/governments/organizations. It will never change.
Also current idea of fiat currency if barely stable mutation of the slightly more reasonable idea of gold standard. It already doesn't represent any value, and people are trusting it, only because there are some big organizations - national banks who are giving their words that this piece of paper has some value and citizens of specific states are obliged by the law to use that specific currency - which is owned by the government who imposes that rule.
Cryptocurrency is not being backed by anyone and it's not being owned/controlled by anyone.

And why are you calling people "Technohipsters", are you kidding me? Are you the inventor of that word or what, because I have never in my life heard it before.

I may be the inventor of that word I don't know if anyone before me used it.
And I'm calling you with this name, because like I said before, You're completely ignorant of the history of human civilization and you're naive about thinking that everything can be replaced by the piece of digital code.

But it seems like you know it all my friend, so what are your suggestions? Just keep it as it is? Government stealing our hard-earned money (Unecessary Taxes) and whatnot.. Let me hear it. You just want everything to be like it is at the moment, not trying to move forward to find new (possibly better) things?

You realize that your Bitcoin is basically the next step into regulations...? Internet is not fucking gravity. It doesn't exist in nature. Internet is service, which you're able to access only because the government is allowing different ISP companies to operate within your state and controls it. With the completely internet-dependent currency they will be able to enforce even more harsh regulations and just simply threaten you with cutting you from the internet.
But hey... Hurr! Durr! Freedom![/QUOTE]

 

[e.e]

I know a lot of people who are older than me (25+) and who are childish about their views on politics/economy/geopolitics, so the argument about age doesn't really work on me.

What does work on you?

 

[Arashel]

Dude. You don't even have actual arguments. You act like cocky jackass who thinks that with mockery He can win discussion and get laid because this will impress some chicks...

 

[Neon]

I know a lot of people who are older than me (25+) and who are childish about their views on politics/economy/geopolitics, so the argument about age doesn't really work on me.

Childish about politics/economy/geopolitics? What makes me more "Childish" than you. Is it because I actually wanna see mankind evolve into MAYBE something better or find more simple solutions?
And dude, you are bringing Star Trek fanatics into this... I don't even...

I just like to see something happen, just like Trump. He brings something new to the table, and it is actually working. Not that I am living in USA and barely affects me, but you know what I mean.
We need something new, new thinking. We can't stay in the same spot forever you know. If we did, we would be cavemen fighting eachother over a squirrel...

We need to try things, maybe they fail, but every now and then we get better solutions to things..

 

[Wirless]

Childish about politics/economy/geopolitics? What makes me more "Childish" than you. Is it because I actually wanna see mankind evolve into MAYBE something better or find more simple solutions?
And dude, you are bringing Star Trek fanatics into this... I don't even...

I just like to see something happen, just like Trump. He brings something new to the table, and it is actually working. Not that I am living in USA and barely affects me, but you know what I mean.
We need something new, new thinking. We can't stay in the same spot forever you know. If we did, we would be cavemen fighting eachother over a squirrel...

We need to try things, maybe they fail, but every now and then we get better solutions to things..

Sir I would like to invite you to Discord - Free voice and text chat for gamers

 

[e.e]

Dude. You don't even have actual arguments. You act like cocky jackass who thinks that with mockery He can win discussion and get laid because this will impress some chicks...

You didn't answer my question, and the question was not mockery, it was absolutely sincere.
What does work on you?

As for the picture: I added that in not only because you hurl personal insults at everyone all the time yourself, you've clearly also convinced yourself in that tiny down syndrome head of yours with this massively overblown Ego that you're the smartest person in the universe, so if someone disagrees with you they must just be wrong before the discussion has even started, and you're gonna show it to them (by giving them all you've got - personal insults and some ridiculous arguments based on kindergarten knowledge "DEY CAN TEK TEH INTERNETS FROM U LULZ NUBZ NO MORE CRYPTO FOR U LUL").
So the picture is actually not as much of a mockery as it's simply a funny picture of how I actually look at you (except a person with down syndrome deserves more sympathy), and until you're able to see that you look that way to others you're just a waste of words and time, because you're clearly not open to new information, and I don't think you're providing even the second stupidest person on OTLand with any new and actually useful information.

Maybe you will be the smartest person in the universe one day, or at least smarter than most other people, but you're certainly not on the right path right now, in fact you're so far off that I legitimate look at you as the biggest idiot on OTLand currently.

Also, what chicks am I trying to impress here?
If you know any on here maybe you could hook us up? Tnx

 

[GailMakesItHard]

Im still in huge debate if Bitcoin will be the future on its own or if its just going to be the flagship for all cryptocurrencies. Bringing crypto to the public, making governments adapt it before all cryptocurrencies come to the forefront. Probably gonna spread 10x €100 on the 10 runner up coins like Litecoin in the new year and hope for the best .

 

[Arashel]

Childish about politics/economy/geopolitics? What makes me more "Childish" than you.

It's figure of speech. You said that you are older and I reminded you that age doesn't make one smart/wise/intelligent.

Is it because I actually wanna see mankind evolve into MAYBE something better or find more simple solutions?

Yep. You're not PhD of economy/sociology/something else. You're not intelligent enough to think it through. You have naive desire of progress/evolution, but you're not capable of taking under consideration a lot of different factors which play role and economy. You like computers, so your ego dictates you that everyhitng related to computers is godsend solution to all of our problems...

And dude, you are bringing Star Trek fanatics into this... I don't even...

Because it's kinda similar. They are wacky space-communist who thinks that idea of federation is good and you think that idea of bitcoin so good.

I just like to see something happen, just like Trump. He brings something new to the table, and it is actually working. Not that I am living in USA and barely affects me, but you know what I mean.
We need something new, new thinking. We can't stay in the same spot forever you know. If we did, we would be cavemen fighting eachother over a squirrel...

Dude... If You think that Trump brought something new to the table then you cannot be older than 16... Or you lack serious eduaction. Trump is conservative to some degree. His ideas aren't new. These are as old as the USA itself.

We need to try things, maybe they fail, but every now and then we get better solutions to things..

No... We need to try new things in controllable environment, observer the results, being able to divide and asses what kind of role all of the major and minor factors are playing. Your idea of going full retard into unknown is just childish and no-one in world of adult is going with it. Especially not in scientific community.

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You didn't answer my question, and the question was not mockery, it was absolutely sincere.
What does work on you?

As for the picture: I added that in not only because you hurl personal insults at everyone all the time yourself, you've clearly also convinced yourself in that tiny down syndrome head of yours with this massively overblown Ego that you're the smartest person in the universe, so if someone disagrees with you they must just be wrong before the discussion has even started, and you're gonna show it to them (by giving them all you've got - personal insults and some ridiculous arguments based on kindergarten knowledge "DEY CAN TEK TEH INTERNETS FROM U LULZ NUBZ NO MORE CRYPTO FOR U LUL").
So the picture is actually not as much of a mockery as it's simply a funny picture of how I actually look at you (except a person with down syndrome deserves more sympathy), and until you're able to see that you look that way to others you're just a waste of words and time, because you're clearly not open to new information, and I don't think you're providing even the second stupidest person on OTLand with any new and actually useful information.

Maybe you will be the smartest person in the universe one day, or at least smarter than most other people, but you're certainly not on the right path right now, in fact you're so far off that I legitimate look at you as the biggest idiot on OTLand currently.

Also, what chicks am I trying to impress here?
If you know any on here maybe you could hook us up? Tnx

Dude. I'm not wasting more of my time on idiot like you. You're some kind of horny/cocky teenager who knows shit and your stupid love for IT completely ignores the reality of economics. Go and invest in bitcoin but later don't cry when it will crush into pile of shit.

 

[Neon]

@Arashel

And I guess you are "Intelligent" enough to think stuff like this through? (inb4 the "I never said I was) answer.)
Ofc I know there are alot of other "factors" when it comes to changing things, but someone/something has to open up the possibilities for things to change.
And no, Star Trek has nothing to do with this... Bitcoin is not a fantasy currency.

And when I said that Trump brings something "new" to the table, I meant that we need some change. We don't need another Obama, we need someone that can ACTUALLY change stuff, and has the balls to do it. But man, I don't even live in the USA, but I guess it's more fun to try and be a part of their politics instead of my garbage country's feminist politics.
And I am 26 btw, and I don't think I "Lack" education. I'm just as educated as everybody else on this forum (most) including you (most likely). I don't think you are some sort of mastermind. So stop trying to make other people look bad like this.

And why is "Supporting Bitcoin" and "Changing" stuff going "full retard"? I mean are you living under a rock or something?
Things change everyday, it's just not every day something as big as this changes.

Anyway I'd like to discuss more but I don't think either of us qualify as masterminds when it comes to this sort of stuff. I respect your opinion, and I agree to some extent. But man you need to embrace that things are changing, not always for the better but things are still gonna change whether you like it or not.
I don't have time for this (or actually I do) but I'm just tired of this forum. I occasionaly check in to see if some of the old school people are still alive.

Good luck to you my friend, and keep the spriting/small art up, looks really good.

 

[e.e]

No... We need to try new things in controllable environment, observer the results

being able to divide and asses

Your idea of going full retard into unknown is just childish and no-one in world of adult is going with it.

Dude. I'm not wasting more of my time on idiot like you. You're some kind of horny/cocky teenager who knows shit and your stupid love for IT completely ignores the reality of economics. Go and invest in bitcoin but later don't cry when it will crush into pile of shit.

No worries Ghastly

And thanks for the compliment. Take care

 

[ond]

Have you people ever heard of having different opinions?

 

[e.e]

No, I think we all agree in here @ond

 

[ond]

I hope so!