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Tibia Relic - a long-term reversed 7.4 project discussion thread

You're hilarious. Tibiabase has custom features and more than just premium. Unlike this thread creator and Tibiara. I didnt steal my web content and tibiantis entire content just to be a wannabe-tibiantis copy.

I respect Kay alot. He is a stand up guy who always was there to help and answer questions. What I dont understand is snakes like this thread owner and Ezzz who did the same and then stabbed him in the back.

I hope that Kay knows my project, and that this is far from it. This is just a rando vanilla server with custom sprites from what I can tell and some added quests.
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This is excatly what Tibiara did. This is probably a relaunch of Tibiara under a different brand. Im almost positive.

Think about it. They stole your entire game content from eq, map and web content initially. It was only a matter of time. Their entire goal was to be Tibiantis.
Haters gonna hate 😎
 
You're hilarious. Tibiabase has custom features and more than just premium. Unlike this thread creator and Tibiara. I didnt steal my web content and tibiantis entire content just to be a wannabe-tibiantis copy.

I respect Kay alot. He is a stand up guy who always was there to help and answer questions. What I dont understand is snakes like this thread owner and Ezzz who did the same and then stabbed him in the back.

I hope that Kay knows my project, and that this is far from it. This is just a rando vanilla server with custom sprites from what I can tell and some added quests.
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This is excatly what Tibiara did. This is probably a relaunch of Tibiara under a different brand. Im almost positive.

Think about it. They stole your entire game content from eq, map and web content initially. It was only a matter of time. Their entire goal was to be Tibiantis.

"This is just a rando vanilla server with custom sprites and added quests"

Lmfao how is this different than any OT? What the fuck is tibiabase anyway XD. Goddamn these tibia OT devs gotta get off their high horse using a premade program to develop their games from stolen content and then rage at anyone else doing the same. ITS ALL STOLEN BROTHERS, YOU AINT CIPSOFT!

Did you design the client from scratch? Nah, so you shouldnt talk any shit. You just stole all your ideas from tibiascape and SoE from what i can see. Tibiantis is the base 7.4 that everyone should look at as an example and build upon. Its a great game that they made, and instead of being bitter and hateful maybe they should respect that people want to follow in their footsteps... especially if its just a hobby and not a living.

From what ive seen so far this servers custom content is nothing like tibiantis, and it has some nice bonus features that it lacked. Tibiantis will be the purists OT and thats fine, i like more custom spawns and mobs and this is already proving to have a good amount of that.

But yea, haters gonna hate! TIBIARELIC GAME OF THE YEAR 2026!
 
instead of being bitter and hateful maybe they [Tibiantis] should respect that people want to follow in their footsteps... especially if its just a hobby and not a living.
Wait, what? I wasted my time answering that guy's questions and I literally told Lord to help him with his client, when we were already swamped with our own work to do. We did it just to help someone, without any profit. You even had two other people in this thread to confirm that I also took my time to answer/guide them. I don't mind anyone creating their own OT server and I never did. All I ever asked is that the other side also be fair to us. If you want to use our content, you can always let us know and you may get permission or our help to make yours. But no, why bother asking, better be an asshole and spit on those who offered help to you, right? And you're saying that it's us who should learn to respect others... But what's even more ironic, while we were taking that time to help someone (including this OT), you were probably sitting on our discord bashing us for how slow we were with our work. And now you come here and say how hateful and bitter we are (sic!), and you make a victim out of someone who got our kind help and then spit on us in return. What a freaking mockery that is.
 
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somebody who ctrl+c ctrl+v rules without even looking at them or adjusting clearly prove that he dont give a single f about those rules or enforcing them properly you have to think through them deeply there are many edge case scenarios
 
Wait, what? I wasted my time answering that guy's questions and I literally told Lord to help him with his client, when we were already swamped with our own work to do. We did it just to help someone, without any profit. You even had two other people in this thread to confirm that I also took my time to answer/guide them. I don't mind anyone creating their own OT server and I never did. All I ever asked is that the other side also be fair to us. If you want to use our content, you can always let us know and you may get permission or our help to make yours. But no, why bother asking, better be an asshole and spit on those who offered help to you, right? And you're saying that it's us who should learn to respect others... But what's even more ironic, while we were taking that time to help someone (including this OT), you were probably sitting on our discord bashing us for how slow we were with our work. And now you come here and say how hateful and bitter we are (sic!), and you make a victim out of someone who got our kind help and then spit on us in return. What a freaking mockery that is.
Seems pretty clear to me they said they used your assistance and project as a baseline and built upon it. Do you own the rights to a TOS lol? Why wouldn't you want to uphold the same standard as tibiantis when it comes to that?? Wtf can you even say differently lol...

And jesus christ with the sprites... they arent using anything you custom created so its crying about nonexistent stuff. Where did you get 90% of your sprites from originally? Its literally a 25 year old fucking game were talking about, you arent reinventing the wheel here man.. you paid a guy to make your sprites didnt you? They worked with and paid a guy for theirs... their mapping is all custom and unique designs. Custom mysteries with their own twist on lore. You even said with your mysteries you used cipsoft as inspiration... HOW DARE U STEAL THE DJINN QUEST IDEA!!! Do you want them to put a statue of you in game or something?

Imo youre being hateful over something someone created out of inspiration from your server because they forgot to change the name of the sprite file thats available to the public? Its someones first OT, people make mistakes. This is nothing like tibiantis lore and content wise so far.

I guess they should've just sucked your cock a bit better? Idk this is wild lmao
 
Seems pretty clear to me they said they used your assistance and project as a baseline and built upon it. Do you own the rights to a TOS lol? Why wouldn't you want to uphold the same standard as tibiantis when it comes to that?? Wtf can you even say differently lol...

And jesus christ with the sprites... they arent using anything you custom created so its crying about nonexistent stuff. Where did you get 90% of your sprites from originally? Its literally a 25 year old fucking game were talking about, you arent reinventing the wheel here man.. you paid a guy to make your sprites didnt you? They worked with and paid a guy for theirs... their mapping is all custom and unique designs. Custom mysteries with their own twist on lore. You even said with your mysteries you used cipsoft as inspiration... HOW DARE U STEAL THE DJINN QUEST IDEA!!! Do you want them to put a statue of you in game or something?
Seriously, stop with this "hurr dur ya all steal from cipsoft" argument, cause it's plain retarded.

Open Tibia Servers, by name and by definition, are fan projects based on Tibia, and no one pretends otherwise. Tibiantis uses the sprites of Tibia 7.4, yes, and it is said straight in our thread. I guarantee you that no one will mistake it for anything else. That's not the same as when you steal the sprites from another server and keep telling people that "they have been made exclusively for yours".

How does the fact that we all run fan projects of Tibia justify stealing from each other here? Even from those who dedicate their time to help you? I don't get it, how can you be so incapable of seeing that this is the least respectful thing one could do in return.

It literally goes like this: hoster A asks hoster B for help, so hoster B helps them out of good will. Then hoster A shamelessly steals whatever they want from hoster B; and all hoster B does is saying that it's disappointing and very low move from hoster A that they didn't at least ask. Then, you join the party and tell hoster B that he is hateful and should learn to respect other hosters, because he dared to point it out. What kind of retarded logic is this? By your reasoning, it's not disrespectful to steal from another hoster, but it's disrespectful and hateful to say that stealing is not right? You seriously didn't put much thought into this, did you?

We had been giving way more than just respect to that guy, until he showed zero respect to us. Once again, the fact that we all run fan projects of Tibia doesn't mean that we have to be stealing from each other here!

Can you just copy-paste stuff from another OTS? Yes, you can, I won't shut your server down, I won't sue you, and I won't do anything. But is it fair and respectful to do? No, it's not.

Imo youre being hateful over something someone created out of inspiration from your server because they forgot to change the name of the sprite file thats available to the public? Its someones first OT, people make mistakes.

File name? What are you even talking about?

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They stole the whole Tibiantis dat & spr, with ALL of the Tibiantis custom sprites in it, and then they publicly said that "all the custom sprites have been made exclusively for Tibia Relic", and then continued to argue about that. They also copied, word to word, all the text from our website, with pictures, and even some of our discord messages.

What does it matter if it's their first OTS? Tibiantis has been the first OTS of ours as well, and it has also been partly inspired by the old Tibianic, from before it turned into Medivia. But we would never even consider stealing their sprites or website content. What these guys here did was not due to a lack of knowledge, but due to their lack of respect for someone's else work. That's the whole point. Again, it's amazing how you are unable to see this, and at the same time you have the guts to preach about "respect" to me. Or maybe you're saying that the "beginner's mistake" they made was just the fact that they couldn't hide it better?

Do you want them to put a statue of you in game or something? (...) I guess they should've just sucked your cock a bit better? Idk this is wild lmao
I've expressed it quite clearly what I expect, so what's the point of exeggerating like that? Just be fair to other hosters, especially if they are willing to help you without any profit. If you want to use their work, ask if they are fine with it, rather than just taking it and telling everyone that it's "exclusively" yours. How hard is that? And how hard can it be to comprehend for someone who wants to teach others respect, like you do?
 
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Well you cant sue them, cause this is all stolen content... there arent any of your custom sprites in game.. why wouldnt someone take your base sprites just like how you took the base sprites from cipsoft? You dont own any of this shit lol. Did you ask cipsoft for permission???? They thanked you on this thread and explained everything here anyway. You decided to publicly slander them instead of reaching out in private to discuss your concerns.

You're just going on a witch hunt against these guys, for taking some simple baselines from your OT and trying to say they stole everything of yours lol... its wild.

Anyways this isnt a copy pasta OT, they put in a lot of work with their mapping and custom creatures from just the small amount discovered so far. Its not like aruthang and tentacles exist here lol.. i agree they should've said they're using the sprites as a baseline to you guys but idk if they need to ask permission because you dont own the content do you?

Purists will stick with tibiantis, and people looking for fun fresh 7.4 will come here. Its two separate kinds of OTs with small differences of things people have been wanting for years.

All of this just seems like you have a stick up your ass cause you didnt get enough praise in the inital post or something. Ive heard that this OT land place can be toxic and goddamn people were right lol.
 
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Well you cant sue them, cause this is all stolen content... there arent any of your custom sprites in game.. why wouldnt someone take your base sprites just like how you took the base sprites from cipsoft? You dont own any of this shit lol. Did you ask cipsoft for permission???? They thanked you on this thread and explained everything here anyway. You decided to publicly slander them instead of reaching out in private to discuss your concerns.
Once again, what are you even talking about? They took the whole Tibiantis .dat and .spr, which included hundreds of our custom sprites, and then they lied publicly that they have been made exclusively for their server. It's not slander to say this, it's a fact. And yes, I actually do own those sprites, as I paid an artis to draw them, just like I do own the content of our website, since we wrote it and paid a language expert to correct. But it was never the point, who owns what in the eyes of the law. The point was merely about being fair and respectful to other hosters, especially those who are helping you out of their good will. Are you really that dull, or are you just pretending not to understand?

You're just going on a witch hunt against these guys, for taking some simple baselines from your OT and trying to say they stole everything of yours lol... its wild.
No, I'm not. I mentioned specifically what they stole/copied.

i agree they should've said they're using the sprites as a baseline to you guys but idk if they need to ask permission because you dont own the content do you?
No, they don't fucking need to ask permission. As you can see, they didn't care, they took it without asking, and nothing happened. Still, it doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do, just because you can.

All of this just seems like you have a stick up your ass cause you didnt get enough praise in the inital post or something. Ive heard that this OT land place can be toxic and goddamn people were right lol.
I never wanted any praise, or anything at all, in return, so stop coming up with this stupid exaggeration. I dedicated my time to help them just to be helpful, and I'm disappointed for the fact that they didn't care about being fair themselves - that's all. It's not me who makes this place toxic, but people like them, who don't give a shit about anything or anyone, and who only look out for their own benefits.

Imagine someone asks you for help getting started streaming. So you spend hours on helping them, just to be nice, and then you find out that they copied your channel description, pictures, banners and nickname, and they now claim that it is all exclusively theirs. Seeing that, you say that it's kinda disappointing that they do that, and they respond: "you can't sue me, so I have the right to do that, haha bye." Then someone else shows up and says that you are the toxic one. That's exactly what happened here. I honestly pitty you, if you are unable to see this.
 
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Once again, what are you even talking about? They took the whole Tibiantis .dat and .spr, which included hundreds of our custom sprites, and then they lied publicly that they have been made exclusively for their server. It's not slander to say this, it's a fact. And yes, I actually do own those sprites, as I paid an artis to draw them, just like I do own the content of our website, since we wrote it and paid a language expert to correct. But it was never the point, who owns what in the eyes of the law. The point was merely about being fair and respectful to other hosters, especially those who are helping you out of their good will. Are you really that dull, or are you just pretending not to understand?


No, I'm not. I mentioned specifically what they stole/copied.


No, they don't fucking need to ask permission. As you can see, they didn't care, they took it without asking, and nothing happened. Still, it doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do, just because you can.


I never wanted any praise, or anything at all, in return, so stop coming up with this stupid exaggeration. I dedicated my time to help them just to be helpful, and I'm disappointed for the fact that they didn't care about being fair themselves - that's all. It's not me who makes this place toxic, but people like them, who don't give a shit about anything or anyone, and who only look out for their own benefits.

Imagine someone asks you for help getting started streaming. So you spend hours on helping them, just to be nice, and then you find out that they copied your channel description, pictures, banners and nickname, and they now claim that it is all exclusively theirs. Seeing that, you say that it's kinda disappointing that they do that, and they respond: "you can't sue me, so I have the right to do that, haha bye." Then someone else shows up and says that you are the toxic one. That's exactly what happened here. I honestly pitty you, if you are unable to see this.
Since streaming is a hobby of mine i would actually be completely fine if anyone took anything ive used. Ive helped numerous people with streaming and passed my open source information for them to use no problem. Only thing i havent shared is my translator, which is because its my friend paying to host it so i dont want to pay extra for that... i would not care 100% if someone took the public templates i used for my stream lol, which is what ive used... almost everyone copy pastes the same stuff and overlays and standards from twitch as a guideline to build off so thats not helping your argument. Fuck they could even take my soundbites i made of my actual voice if they wanted i would be honored.

Which hundreds of sprites are you talking about? Tibiantis has like 50 custom mobs? None of which are in tibiarelic, so what specifically in your sprites are you even complaining about here? "You took my warhammer models and repainted them so now you own it and get to control who uses them!!!!"

Why help people with an OT then get mad when they make an OT cause they utilized public data to make their own customized version of a 7.4 OT which is exactly what you did to create tibiantis in the first place. This is just a stupid strawman argument. Anyways, enough posting here the server speaks for itself. This is nothing like tibiantis aside from the 7.4 mechanics and the rules which i think should be enforced on any OT anyway.

Still love your custom content, just wish you would put more time into it over the amount of time you spend lurking discord and OT land to defend your ego.
 
Since streaming is a hobby of mine i would actually be completely fine if anyone took anything ive used. Ive helped numerous people with streaming and passed my open source information for them to use no problem. Only thing i havent shared is my translator, which is because its my friend paying to host it so i dont want to pay extra for that... i would not care 100% if someone took the public templates i used for my stream lol, which is what ive used... almost everyone copy pastes the same stuff and overlays and standards from twitch as a guideline to build off so thats not helping your argument. Fuck they could even take my soundbites i made of my actual voice if they wanted i would be honored.
So if it wasn't a hobby, but something you put thousands of hours of work into, then you would mind? Even if you still wouldn't care (which I highly doubt, but okay), that's your right, but if you can't just respect that someone might see it differently, it only shows your narrow-mindedness. Just because you don't mind other people doing something to you, doesn't mean that you have the right to do that to them. You may not mind, but if you were respectful to other people, you would still take into account that they might, and you would reconsider your doings. The problem is that you measure everything by your own needs, disregarding the rights of others, which is literally the opposite of being respectful and altruistic person. That's why you don't get it.

Which hundreds of sprites are you talking about? Tibiantis has like 50 custom mobs? None of which are in tibiarelic, so what specifically in your sprites are you even complaining about here? "You took my warhammer models and repainted them so now you own it and get to control who uses them!!!!"
I posted a screenshot showing that all of our custom sprites were in their client, and literally put it in your face twice. What difference does it make if it's 5 or 50 custom mobs? Like, if it's only 5, then it's right to steal them, mr. respect-preacher? Their website still contains copy-pasted text from ours, even though elao claimed that it was only for "place holder" and that "it wouldn't be there by launch".

Why help people with an OT then get mad when they make an OT cause they utilized public data to make their own customized version of a 7.4 OT which is exactly what you did to create tibiantis in the first place.
I was never mad over the fact that they made their own server. I was even willing to help them achieve that in the little time I had. You either can't read, or you must be trolling right now. The "public data" you're talking about was our hard work, which says a lot about how much respect you have for it. Lastly, we never did anything like them, because we did not steal from any other hoster here, let alone say someone that was helpful to us. We took the original old Tibia as a base, and we said it straight that Tibiantis was to be a Tibia-based fan project. You won't mistake it for anything else. These guys took stuff from another OT here and told people that it was "exclusively" theirs. That's not the same.
 
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Ok when I discover tentacle horrors and obliterators on tibiarelic I will take your side on this. From what elao said, none of these exist so idk what youre even on about still.

Who cares if someone used your rules / ToS i bet chat gpt would spin up the same shit you guys wrote which i also assume you took inspiration for yours from someone else too.. this is a stupid ass thing to call out. I would understand if this server took aruthang and your custom mobs but it was clear to me what was said here is that none of this exists in their OT yet you're still on here raging when i wasnt even talking to you.
 
Ok when I discover tentacle horrors and obliterators on tibiarelic I will take your side on this. From what elao said, none of these exist so idk what youre even on about still.

Who cares if someone used your rules / ToS i bet chat gpt would spin up the same shit you guys wrote which i also assume you took inspiration for yours from someone else too.. this is a stupid ass thing to call out. I would understand if this server took aruthang and your custom mobs but it was clear to me what was said here is that none of this exists in their OT
In other words "they can steal it, cause who cares". Very mature and respectful attitude of yours. And you're saying that we should start to respect others, rotfl.

yet you're still on here raging when i wasnt even talking to you.
But you were talking about me. And I'm not "raging" but providing reasonable insight for you to understand how it looks from the other side. You just refuse to look at it, because you don't care about the other side, and people around you in general.
 
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I dont care about your side cause you're crying about things that dont exist in the game. You only see your side because you think you own the rights to 7.4 or something lol
 
I dont care about your side cause you're crying about things that dont exist in the game. You only see your side because you think you own the rights to 7.4 or something lol
No, I specifically listed the things that they stole/copied from us without asking, and I showed it, so there is not even question that they did it. I understand that those guys are maybe your friends or something, but you're just delusional at this point.

And no, I don't think that I own "the rights to 7.4", and I never gave you the slightest reason to think so. I always referred only to things that we made ourselves, and that are strictly exclusive to Tibiantis. Once again you are manipulating to distract from the actual point I made. There are at least several other 7.4 OT servers out there that didn't steal anything from us, and that I have zero issues with. Want me to name them?

I don't mind inspiration. I don't care that these guys made custom Ank and put the infamous fence in the exact same place. 😂 Honestly, no problem, I actually smiled when I saw that. And yes, in some way it is flattering. But stealing sprites and claiming that they were exclusively yours, or copying the website content 1:1, it's just rude and dirty lazy.

Also, like I said numerous times, it's not just about stealing/copying. Normally, I would be like whatever, but I was very disappointed that they still did it even though we were open to helping them.
 
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Elro is my friend from tibiantis, i didnt know elao but that doesnt matter.

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What custom sprites of yours that were stolen are in their game?? Again, no point in arguing this until those are seen right? You're arguing that that stole these things. So ok, where are they?

Also the tibiantis website is like an exact copy almost of the original cipsoft website, wtf bro!?!? Also, you act like you are the only person to think of blocking access to an area kekw. This door is 100x better than that annoying NPC tho. Cant help but say hi anyways lmao.
 
What custom sprites of yours that were stolen are in their game?? Again, no point in arguing this until those are seen right? You're arguing that that stole these things. So ok, where are they?
Here, I'm linking it for you for the third time.

Also the tibiantis website is like an exact copy almost of the original cipsoft website, wtf bro!?!? Also, you act like you are the only person to think of blocking access to an area kekw. This door is 100x better than that annoying NPC tho. Cant help but say hi anyways lmao.
I have already explained to you several times the difference between using Tibia's content for a Tibia-based fan project, with everyone being aware where all of that comes from, and stealing stuff from another OT project and telling unaware people that it's "exclusively" yours.

Secondly, we are not talking about the website's structure similarity. This is understandable, as most OT servers offer similar features on their website. We are not talking about the layout either, which is indeed different. We are talking precisely about straight copy-paste of all the text: ctrl+c & ctrl+v, 1:1, word to word, even with the same pictures of ours. So, once again you are trying to twist the actual point with these manipulations.

Elro is my friend
At least we have it clear now why you chose to be that brick wall. At this point, it's very apparent that you don't care what is right or wrong, and you never even put a lil thought into this. You will just keep trolling for your friend's benefit until the very end, so I will cut it here. As for someone who started by lecturing us about respecting other hosters, you turned out to be incredibly egoistic and narrow-minded.
 
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Again for the billionth time none of your exclusive content is in the game, this was explained page one yet you continue to slander and say your custom sprites that took thousands of hours were stolen. Only the base models are used, which is from cipsoft so why do you keep coming to this mr strawman?

I don't see the website comparison so idk what you're on about. They look completely different. Everyone uses the same style pages for a tibia OT with their own flare.

But again, when were hunting tentacle horrors on tibiarelic ill say youre right bud dont worry!
 
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Love the attention being drawn here, i know a lot of work was done on this server over the last year or so. Looking forward to trying it out!



- your first post tells that you are scared to use main account

- only posting there with random username + twitch stream (i have watched few minutes and you were talking with person which burns runemakers on every server)

Which makes me wonder that you were talking with him all the time about tibiantis, i think you are tibiantis hatelord like ezzz firemac and another weird people

So i prefer you should play on this project with great future, yapping to kay and denying whatever is presented with previous posts which makes me wonder why are you playing there when most of the yapping time it's about tibiantis anyway xD
 
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U mirin' brah, nah man ive just never been on these forums cause everyone says its a toxic wasteland and it is. Just a bunch of ot devs jerking eachothers egos and raging on others apparently lol. I made this account because of this OT because my friend helped with it and then this thread turned into a shitstorm. Which i understand why there would be frustration at first but once someone explained that their content isnt in the game it should've ended there.

Im not a tibiantis hater, streamed it for over 2 years and did numerous giveaways out of my own pocket for premium. I dont enjoy kay sometimes, i dont agree with his opinions, we disagree on quite a lot but i still enjoy his server. Content is just too slow paced and minimal for my style of tibia. I enjoyed the grind to 100 and ill prob be back with the next content update to get 120 and try annihilator for the 7.4 endgame.

Only been playing OTs since tibiascape release, just enjoy tibia and the community but kay is out here stretching the truth and thats what im here defending. I understand they took the spr file but its been said numerous times his custom created content is not in the game. Calling people out for taking website content is dumb, they are templates based off the cipsoft structure anyway lol

Yea i became friends with homer, hes a good guy but plays tibia differently and honestly gives 7.4 a true nostalgic experience keeping you on your toes lol. Have had a lot of good times with the community in tibiantis even though a lot of it is toxic. The only shit ive talked about tibiantis is just that it needed more content, which they have started to do but for my personal taste its just not enough to keep me interested still.

Anyways fuck this website, play here if you want the server is stable and fun and the custom mobs / areas + shared exp at 40 with 10% debuff is an awesome thing for 7.4 imo. PURISTS EVERYWHERE HATE THIS COMMENT.
 
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