Before you read this through, please have this in your mind; I Dont want to throw shit at anyone! Im just enlightning people about the risks of certain servers!!!
Im writing this for the players, not the server owners. I Know some people will hate, but this is just a reminder of what you are throwing your money at, and how they handle your information.
So, we all know "download & run" servers are becoming more and more common. Why? -> $money$
To me, this is just one big huge fraud. Most of the servers who's doing this are completly unsecure and getting classified information is no match at all.
Lets for example say you donated to a server, with your creditcard via PayPal. Sure PayPal is safe to a ceratin extent , but they bounce all your information with the seller site aswell.
The owners of servers which are running on downloadable datapacks, usually got small or none knowledge of how it all works. How the server communicate with the website, how the website interact with the database or how easy its to sniff out information from their players. And why would they, its not their problem, because if it was, they would've fixed it long time ago.
Security, customer respect and knowledge.
Download & run servers are increasing, and at the same time the security is getting lower, and the demand regarding it from the players are close to non-existing.
If you just knew how easy your password and account name could be seen by others, im sure you would think twice before signing up to one of those servers.
But how do you see that a server is unsecure and just wants your money?
Heres a few tricks ive learnt through the years;
1. Server website. Is it unique? Have you seen it before? Have you seen it ALOT before? Is the layout poor and some of the links not even working? Is the first thing that hits your face a big advertiser about donating money to the server? Id suggest you to get out of there ASAP. Those are signs that could tell you that the server is unfinished and the owner dosnt even bother to put down enough energy to make the linking work properly (probably because he cant).
2. Hows the server staff? Are they active? Do they take daily actions? Is the server owner even logged in once in a while? Another good sign. Inactive staff members should tell players right away that this isnt a very seriouse or good server. If it was, wouldnt the owner hire active staff which took care of the community?
3. Did you see the server owner before/is he known from other projects? Examples of good server hosters are hosters that are building up their reputation by hosting several servers during the years and getting good feedback on them. They never shut a server down due to lack of donation money, some of them dosnt even have something called donations! Search for those servers instead of picking the server on top of Otservlist just because it got alot of players, it dosnt mean the community is good, more likely the opposite, crowded with botters and cheaters.
4. How does the donation items look? Are the donation items made in a ridiculous OP way, or are they still balanced to the normal items? Some scamm hosters creates their donates, only with one thing in their mind -> making money. And in order to do so, you, the player, will have to want to buy them. Therefor they add an axe with 100 damage, just to "force" all the knights on the server to get this axe if they want to be the best!
5. Did the hoster hire anyone to help him with the server, or is it all made by a "one man team"? Isnt it obviouse here? Noone (well ye some that spends years and years on complete custom Ots) can create a server by themselfs. If they claim they did, its in 95% of the cases something they downloaded and then, with minior edits, released with another name. Stay away from those, they are typically "download & run" servers.
So please, before joining an unseriouse project, think over this. Is it worth donating money to someone who stole/downloaded someone else's work? Is it worth giving them personal information?
Amoaz's Blacklist of "download & run servers" follows;
1. GhostOT - Latest News
(GhostX here on OtLand got NOTHING to do with it, so dont bother him, bother the real owner (whoever that kid is))
Reason:
Summery:The server is so unstable and so unsafe that I got no clue how people could join here in the first place. Website seen 1581089734187 times?
*He didnt bother to swap out the screenshots (sign of lazyness and how less he cares. Or maybe he just dont know how to fix the easiest thing on a webpage. Anyway, he got 0 clue what his doing with this server.)
*The site is just one big exploit. Hacking this would be manageable for a three year old. If you want your information to leak, this is the place you should go to!
*Another downloaded evolution map with slight changes.
They are giving away ALL the information from the donators (IP address, email, amount of points, costs, account names). And the most retarded thing is-> its visible to EVERYONE.
Proof: Pastebin.com (Im sorry for the ones whos in this list, but you shouldnt be mad at me, this is visable to all of you if your looking at the right place. No blocks, no nothing.)
This list will be updated from time to time. If you got a server you think would fit on this list please post it here in this thread and ill look it up!
Amoaz's recommended servers follows:
1. Tibianic-hr.org
Reason: Dispite lack of players (on the normal rated version) the server was kept alive. This owner dosnt use any kind of donation items to make money, probably just to finans his dedicated (which he also spent alot of money on).
*The server is well-made and so is the website.
*Money are spent here in order to protect the server from attacks.
*The hoster knows what his doing.
(Yes im old enough to agree that Tibianic, one of my biggest competitors, are well-made.)
2. Cyntara
Reason: Great server, great hosters, great people overall who made this project. They are clearly a seriouse hosting team. They've spent money, time and worked their asses of to this running.
*They got their very own website, custom client, map, scripts and items.
*Money are spent in order to prevent attacks.
*This hosting team knows what they are doing, and too me this looks very professional.
This list will be updated from time to time. Got a server you think would fit here, please post the link in the thread and ill look into it!
Hope I didnt ruin your eyes too much.
Yours,
Amoaz
Bump!
People should read this instead of joining shit OTs!
Bump.
Bump! More people should read this!
Bump.
Bumping this!
Bump!
Bump
Im writing this for the players, not the server owners. I Know some people will hate, but this is just a reminder of what you are throwing your money at, and how they handle your information.
So, we all know "download & run" servers are becoming more and more common. Why? -> $money$
To me, this is just one big huge fraud. Most of the servers who's doing this are completly unsecure and getting classified information is no match at all.
Lets for example say you donated to a server, with your creditcard via PayPal. Sure PayPal is safe to a ceratin extent , but they bounce all your information with the seller site aswell.
The owners of servers which are running on downloadable datapacks, usually got small or none knowledge of how it all works. How the server communicate with the website, how the website interact with the database or how easy its to sniff out information from their players. And why would they, its not their problem, because if it was, they would've fixed it long time ago.
Security, customer respect and knowledge.
Download & run servers are increasing, and at the same time the security is getting lower, and the demand regarding it from the players are close to non-existing.
If you just knew how easy your password and account name could be seen by others, im sure you would think twice before signing up to one of those servers.
But how do you see that a server is unsecure and just wants your money?
Heres a few tricks ive learnt through the years;
1. Server website. Is it unique? Have you seen it before? Have you seen it ALOT before? Is the layout poor and some of the links not even working? Is the first thing that hits your face a big advertiser about donating money to the server? Id suggest you to get out of there ASAP. Those are signs that could tell you that the server is unfinished and the owner dosnt even bother to put down enough energy to make the linking work properly (probably because he cant).
2. Hows the server staff? Are they active? Do they take daily actions? Is the server owner even logged in once in a while? Another good sign. Inactive staff members should tell players right away that this isnt a very seriouse or good server. If it was, wouldnt the owner hire active staff which took care of the community?
3. Did you see the server owner before/is he known from other projects? Examples of good server hosters are hosters that are building up their reputation by hosting several servers during the years and getting good feedback on them. They never shut a server down due to lack of donation money, some of them dosnt even have something called donations! Search for those servers instead of picking the server on top of Otservlist just because it got alot of players, it dosnt mean the community is good, more likely the opposite, crowded with botters and cheaters.
4. How does the donation items look? Are the donation items made in a ridiculous OP way, or are they still balanced to the normal items? Some scamm hosters creates their donates, only with one thing in their mind -> making money. And in order to do so, you, the player, will have to want to buy them. Therefor they add an axe with 100 damage, just to "force" all the knights on the server to get this axe if they want to be the best!
5. Did the hoster hire anyone to help him with the server, or is it all made by a "one man team"? Isnt it obviouse here? Noone (well ye some that spends years and years on complete custom Ots) can create a server by themselfs. If they claim they did, its in 95% of the cases something they downloaded and then, with minior edits, released with another name. Stay away from those, they are typically "download & run" servers.
So please, before joining an unseriouse project, think over this. Is it worth donating money to someone who stole/downloaded someone else's work? Is it worth giving them personal information?
Amoaz's Blacklist of "download & run servers" follows;
1. GhostOT - Latest News
(GhostX here on OtLand got NOTHING to do with it, so dont bother him, bother the real owner (whoever that kid is))
Reason:
Summery:The server is so unstable and so unsafe that I got no clue how people could join here in the first place. Website seen 1581089734187 times?
*He didnt bother to swap out the screenshots (sign of lazyness and how less he cares. Or maybe he just dont know how to fix the easiest thing on a webpage. Anyway, he got 0 clue what his doing with this server.)
*The site is just one big exploit. Hacking this would be manageable for a three year old. If you want your information to leak, this is the place you should go to!
*Another downloaded evolution map with slight changes.
They are giving away ALL the information from the donators (IP address, email, amount of points, costs, account names). And the most retarded thing is-> its visible to EVERYONE.
Proof: Pastebin.com (Im sorry for the ones whos in this list, but you shouldnt be mad at me, this is visable to all of you if your looking at the right place. No blocks, no nothing.)
This list will be updated from time to time. If you got a server you think would fit on this list please post it here in this thread and ill look it up!
Amoaz's recommended servers follows:
1. Tibianic-hr.org
Reason: Dispite lack of players (on the normal rated version) the server was kept alive. This owner dosnt use any kind of donation items to make money, probably just to finans his dedicated (which he also spent alot of money on).
*The server is well-made and so is the website.
*Money are spent here in order to protect the server from attacks.
*The hoster knows what his doing.
(Yes im old enough to agree that Tibianic, one of my biggest competitors, are well-made.)
2. Cyntara
Reason: Great server, great hosters, great people overall who made this project. They are clearly a seriouse hosting team. They've spent money, time and worked their asses of to this running.
*They got their very own website, custom client, map, scripts and items.
*Money are spent in order to prevent attacks.
*This hosting team knows what they are doing, and too me this looks very professional.
This list will be updated from time to time. Got a server you think would fit here, please post the link in the thread and ill look into it!
Hope I didnt ruin your eyes too much.
Yours,
Amoaz
Bump!
People should read this instead of joining shit OTs!
Bump.
Bump! More people should read this!
Bump.
Bumping this!
Bump!
Bump
